User talk:Deskana/Archive 2

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Contents 1 Jeff Wadlow 2 Vandalism 3 Yoda Dagobyte 4 KT Tunstall 4/13/06 5 Thanks! 6 Black-Out Friday 7 Userpage 8 Possibly unfree Image:Danavecpurpletiger.jpg 9 Question... 10 my userpage 11 Masssiveego response 12 Anonymous insult 13 Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot 14 Adminship 15 Leave me alone 16 Robsteadman account 17 Edit Count 18 Edit Count 19 lines throughout are uncomfortable 20 AfC instructions 21 Make up your mind 22 Interesting 23 You're a sysop! 24 Afc template 25 Changin in the sorting algorithm article 26 Thanks 27 72.1.206.178 28 User talk:69.51.65.60 29 Block conflicts 30 AFC templates move 31 May the Force be with you. 32 WP:ABUSE 33 Thanks for tip 34 Deleting revisions 35 Your purple tiger 36 AfC 37 Concerning User:24.61.46.137 38 Protection of Xeni Jardin 39 Catholic censorship/revisionism 40 Re:Accidental revert 41 Darth Revan 42 Congrats 43 Abdul's kebabs 44 User:125.236.44.45 block 45 Golden Sun candidates for deletion 46 Thanks for voting in my RfA! 47 Check again please 48 Thanks for voting on my RfA 49 WP:AIV 50 Admin question for you 51 Hello

Jeff Wadlow

You should probably wait to add the Larry King bit, but IMDB has a list of films he directed and a bio that supports a good part of what this person posted. I think this is creatable. Perhaps you can reconsider your assessment? - Mgm|^(talk) 10:09, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Fair enough... shall create it now! --Darth Revert ^{(AKA Deskana)} (talk) 10:10, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

By the way, feel free to delete obvious jokes and attacks. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:10, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

I do occasionally... really offensive ones. I feel leaving some there might discourage anons from posting jokes. Depends what mood I'm in really! --Darth Revert ^{(AKA Deskana)} (talk) 10:13, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

• Thanks for the creation. I've wikified somewhat and added categories. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:45, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism

You were just flagged up as having vandalised The Catholic University of America with the words 'Hi Mum'. Was this actually you? I ask only because you look like a reputable Wikipedian who wouldn't vandalise pages in this way... -- gtdp ^(T)/_(C) 22:21, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

I see what's happened. I wasn't paying close enough attention to the edits I was reverting... if you look at the diff you'll see I also removed two images in the revert. I must have reverted someone elses reversion too. Apologies. I'll remove the images manually. --Darth Revert ^{(AKA Deskana)} (talk) 22:24, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

The vandalism came from an anon six edits before Deskana. It was removed by another editors two edits before Deskana, and probably found its way back in through the software bug that sometimes undoes a few previous edits. It's been causing a bit of trouble. AnnH ♫ 22:32, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Nah... it's cause I reverted to this which was at a point before the test was corrected. It's alright, I've removed the images manually now, so no harm done. --Darth Revert ^{(AKA Deskana)} (talk) 22:35, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Great, thanks for your time. I'll rid of the test1 now... -- gtdp ^(T)/_(C) 22:55, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

What? But Lord Deskana is LORD of the Dagobyte Revolution...he set the whole thing up!ItsOAR 11:06, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Which explains completely why I reverted a hell of a lot of "Dagobyte" edits. Stop trolling. --Lord Deskana ^{Dark Lord of the Sith} 11:08, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Yoda Dagobyte

It wasn't a mistake, because it wasn't me. It looks like someone did the dumb "dagobyte" vandalism, I clicked on "edit," someone reverted it, but I was still editing the vandalized version. . . and since I was editing that, the reverts were overwritten by my edits. Either way, I reverted your revertions to my edits, minus the "dagobyte." Dan 01:07, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm suprised you didn't get an edit conflict warning. Anyway, no worries. I figured it wasn't you anyway :-) --Darth Deskana (Darth Talk) 07:55, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

KT Tunstall 4/13/06

If you would have clicked the link at the bottom of the page, you would have seen that the chart position I updated DOES have a source. Before you accuse someone of providing unreliable information, please make sure that you are correct in what you say. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.89.127.173 (talk • contribs) .

I apologise since there clearly was a source, but I stand by my thinking at the time. I didn't accuse you of adding unreliable information, I accused you of adding in unsourced information, which is at first glances what you did. I can't check every source everytime I look at someone's edits. --Darth Deskana (Darth Talk) 12:55, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks, I've been wondering about this for while. Jarfingle 21:47, 13 April 2006 (UTC) (Referring to a comment I left about using WP:AIV to block vandals --Darth Deskana (Darth Talk) 21:49, 13 April 2006 (UTC))

No problem. Hope you can put it to good use! --Darth Deskana (Darth Talk) 21:49, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Black-Out Friday

What sort of further evidence do you want in regards to allowing Black-Out Friday, the day after Thanksgiving, as celebrated at CU - Boulder, every other year during the CU vs Nebraska game?

I will provide links commenting on the bitter rivalry, would you like anything else?

Its been updated ; please review it for sumission it's located at the following link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation/2006-04-13#Black-Out_Friday

GenoCU 02:16, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

GenoCU, forgive Darth Revert - since his life is pretty meaningless, attempting to maintain the integrity of an encyclopedia created by the public gives him some false hope of being significant —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dpjoh2 (talk • contribs) .

Darth, it's easy to understand that you're wishing a spot in public encyclopedia glory. At the same time, this day has a very strong meaning in the lives of many Colorado Football fans.

I personally cannot guarantee that you would enjoy the experience of going to a college football game, and all the pageantry involved, but for those of us that do, Our day should at least be recognized. I asked if you would like anything else to support this definition, we happen to be very adament about it being recognized for what it is.

Thanks GenoCU 05:20, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

What exactly are you referring to? My userpage is not an encyclopedia article, if you look at the bottom of it, it quite clearly states that. Nor would I wish a place in an encyclopedia for myself, I'm clearly not notable enough... I'm doing this because I feel it's worthwhile.

Anyway, I will look at the AfC page again but I can guarantee nothing... --Darth Deskana (Darth Talk) 08:03, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Userpage

I reverted your userpage back to the last version by you, after a series of strange changes from a collection of IPs and users. Please have a look at it and make sure that it is the way you want it to be, as there may be other vandalism slid into the history that I've missed. Essjay ^{Talk • Contact} 05:29, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

This appears to be the Dagobyte vandal plaguing the Yoda page. Thanks for the reverts! --Darth Deskana (Darth Talk) 07:59, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Possibly unfree Image:Danavecpurpletiger.jpg

-SCEhardT 06:04, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Question...

Are you aware that the image Image:Psychadelic-me.jpg has been deleted? You still have it on your user page. I was going to remove it, but the bottom of your page says not to touch it, so I thought instead I'd mention it here. See ya. --LV ^{(Dark Mark)} 05:29, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Oh yes, I was going to take a new photo of myself to replace it today but forgot. I wouldn't mind you removing it. Infact, I think I might modify the bottom bit so it says people can edit it. Thanks for telling me! --Darth Deskana (Darth Talk) 16:48, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, I didn't check back in time to do it myself, but it appears you got along just fine without me. :-) Have a nice night. Keep up the good work making those sandwiches. Know any gross secrets that might help me avoid any particular sandwich there? ;-) See you around. --LV ^{(Dark Mark)} 02:28, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

my userpage

Check your own civility, and play with your own userpage -- max rspct leave a message 21:26, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

I am being civil, actually. --Darth Deskana (talk page) 21:27, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

• Deskana, I think you are acting appropriately. Max rspct seems to be a bit volatile on this point. I am concerned that he continues to refuse the request to remove the Will Farrell image from his userpage. I'm content to wait for other administrators to chime in and take appropriate action. If he still refuses or reverts their efforts, then it would be time for an RfC. There's no sense getting in a revert war about this, as it would just be fuel for his fire and would serve none of us well, most of all him. At this point, he knows the image on his userpage is fair use. He knows it violates Wikipedia policy. He knows he is in disagreement with two people about this. Lastly, he knows its been reported to the admin noticeboard. With slowly increasing pressure, I think he'll eventually understand the importance of keeping such images off his userpage. I'd much rather see him understand it than just have him be angry and not understand. Hopefully we'll get a satisfactory resolution to this. --Durin 18:41, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

I hope so. --Darth Deskana (talk page) 19:01, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Masssiveego response

I don't believe a user having orphan images shows misunderstanding with image process. I for one don't check all the images I've uploaded to make sure they're used, and delete them if they're not. I do feel you're being overly harsh, here. --Darth Deskana (talk page) 21:48, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

While I understand I seem harsh, I believe admin must be familiar with how images work, and show that they can use them properily. Canidates that do not understand images do not understand a big part of wikipedia. Masssiveego 23:46, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

I can respect that... however I feel that you're getting a bit specific. The candidates in question may not even know they have orphan images, and not only that, do you expect them to check every few days to see if they do? --Darth Deskana (talk page) 19:02, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Anonymous insult

WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.145.27.44 (talk • contribs) .

Deskana. --Darth Deskana (talk page) 14:06, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

(Note: This user is aggrivated because I removed a change to D12 that said 50 Cent and Quentin Taranteno had joined the band, [1], and politely asked for a source for the change on his talk page [2] --Darth Deskana (talk page) 14:08, 18 April 2006 (UTC))

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Adminship

Hi, Deskana, sorry for the delay in responding. I'm on holidays at the moment, and have internet access in the hotel room, but my normal timetable is disrupted. Yes, you do good work fighting vandalism. I was going to suggest that you try to increase your number of contributions to project namespace, but I've just checked you here (no longer updated for en.wiki, but it gives an indication), and you have 392 to project, and 37 to project talk, which is quite respectable, but I still feel you're not as well known across the English Wikipedia as I was when I became an admin. Try contributing to RfCs — I don't mean file one, as I think they're sometimes filed too easily, but maybe add your own comment or endorse the statements of a few others. Your average number of edits per page is (or was when the tool was updated) 2.27, which is excellent. A high number there suggests someone here with an agenda, rather than someone who's interested in contributing to the encyclopaedia. It's also good that you have reverted vandalism to user pages or talk pages of people you've disagreed with, and also that you voted to keep the Robert Steadman article. It's an indication that you can be fair. Good luck. AnnH ♫ 20:32, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments. I'll look at getting involved in a few RfCs. I was reading a few of them ages ago to get a feel for them but never actually commented on any statements. I'm also trying to find articles I know a little bit about (SuggestBot, above) to see if I can improve them, even if only slightly. Thanks for the guidance! --Darth Deskana (talk page) 08:54, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Leave me alone

Leave me alone, dan —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.144.237.123 (talk • contribs) .

Leave the Subway (restaurant) article alone from changes like this, and I'll be happy to leave you alone. --Darth Deskana (talk page) 13:53, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Robsteadman account

I have suspicions of my own, but they're different from yours and Rob's. The April 20 and April 23 events happened very soon after we became aware of an offsite webpage that revealed private information about User:KHM03, leading to harrassment against his family and colleagues and forcing his retirement from Wikipedia. I cannot give you the URL of the webpage, but it's very similar to content put up by a banned user at User talk:John1838 and User talk:J1838. The actual user pages have been protected-deleted. I wonder why the same was not done with Rob's page when he requested that his account be deleted?

All and all, there have been some very odd things going on lately. Grigory Deepdelver^Talk 20:27, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

And of course Sod's law dictates that it centres around my RfA. Well, the reason I think it really is Rob in his account is because no other user really has any reason to start such huge arguments with me on multiple pages. It's very depressing to have my RfA turn into a controversy when I try my absolute hardest to be an upstanding, iconic Wikipedian. Shoot me. I can't imagine anyone would want to vote on such a controversial RfA, cause I know I wouldn't. --Darth Deskana (talk page) (my RfA!) 20:31, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Today, I think it's probably Rob. On the 20th and 23rd, it was probably an impersonator. Compare the contributions from the account. The impersonator on the 20th and 23rd was a much more careful speller.

I do think Rob was wrong to attack you today, but I also think he is right to be concerned about being impersonated. As I said, I suspect it's connected to this other issue that has nothing to do with your RfA. It's centered on Christianity, Criticism of Christianity and jesus-Myth. The website recently turned their attention to Jesus as well. I think it's no coincidence that, after weeks of decent discussions, the Talk:Jesus page suddenly exploded into war.

No, it's not centering around your RfA. I believe that your RfA was merely collateral damage of a larger issue. Grigory Deepdelver^Talk 20:42, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm sure you are right, but it easy to get worried when an editor that clearly dislikes you and has left Wikipedia returns at the time of your RfA. I'm trying not to think everyone is out to get me, but sometimes it is difficult... especially given the circumstances.

I did notice that increased attention to spelling from the account. I'm not going to speculate as to whether or not it was Robert Steadman that was editing from the Robsteadman account as I don't believe I have enough evidence. --Darth Deskana (talk page) (my RfA!) 20:47, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes you are right Dan. Perhaps we could make you a super admin instead? Or Jimbo's assistant? RobSteadman 13:27, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

I don't talk to impersonator accounts. --Darth Deskana (talk page) 13:30, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

PS - I'd say its fine to have someone strike it, but so far I've been unable to figure out the exact wikisyntax that lets me move it out of the list but preserve the numbering on any following support votes. I'll note as much on the ani page. :/ --Syrthiss 13:56, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Edit Count

Edit Count

Hi Deskana,

I'm giving you your edit count, as I thought it might help you in your RfA. I used Flcelloguy's Tool, so the information is correct as of 08:11, 25 April 2006 (UTC).

And now (drum roll, please), your stats:

Statistics for: Deskana
(Permissions: N/A)
- Total: 2469 -
Main: 854
Talk: 268
User: 151
User talk: 645
Wikipedia: 474
Wikipedia talk: 46
Image: 22
Template: 5
Template talk: 1
Category: 3
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Total edits: 2469
Minor edits: 478
Edits with edit summary: 2298
Edits with manual edit summary: 2244
Percent minor edits: 19.36%  *
Percent edit summary use: 93.07%  *
Percent manual edit summary use: 90.88%  *
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* - percentages are rounded down to the nearest hundredth.
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--Primate^#101 08:08, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

lines throughout are uncomfortable

The lines on the articles I've read are much

wider than I'm used to. The directions say to

indent and double space.

I think there ought to be a way to set margins

at a width readers are used to. This would also

get shorter articles.

I wonder why you would favor wider

lines? I guess you're used to them, but

readers are not.

I'm not signed in because I'm changing my user

name.

Wikipedia is not like other encyclopedias. Unless our guidelines say anything about indenting and double spacing, articles will have to stay as they are. We have over one million articles, so I therefore doubt that such a guideline was overlooked. --Darth Deskana (talk page) 18:47, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

AfC instructions

Darth Deskana, would you take a look at my proposed revision linked from Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation#New instructions? Sorry for the solicitation, but as you know, AfC is not exactly the busiest place these days. Continued luck on your RfA. ×Meegs 04:04, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Make up your mind

Do you want me to hassle him or not? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.137.71.178 (talk • contribs) .

What I want you to do is follow appropriate policy and not vandalise articles (for example, your vandalism to Robert Steadman. --Darth Deskana (talk page) 18:38, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Interesting

Thanks for your message. Yes, it's interesting. But how would a student have your e-mail address? I honestly don't know what to think. Nice to see that your RfA is going so well. Cheers. AnnH ♫ 22:43, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

A point I hadn't thought of. The only person from that IP address who has contacted me via email is Robsteadman... interesting. I could devote time to think about it but I have a feeling it would lead me nowhere! Thanks for your comments. --Darth Deskana (talk page) 22:46, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

You're a sysop!

Please also add your name to WP:LA. =Nichalp «Talk»= 10:49, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations on your adminship. I look forward to the coming months with pleasant anticipation. Captainktainer * Talk 11:13, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Congrats! I'm so glad one of the defunct Christian Cabal has made something of himself! --Avery W. Krouse 22:19, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Congrats! You deserve this! --Siva1979^{Talk to me} 04:33, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations from the land of ice and snow. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 19:19, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Congrats! --Syrthiss 19:26, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Congrats and MTFBWY. PJM 20:34, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

As we say in Portuguese, Parabéns!!!--Kungfu Adam ^(talk) 20:37, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Good for you (and for Wikipedia)! Congratulations : ) --MPerel ^{( talk | contrib)} 20:56, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

You deserved it. Congrats. (^'-')^ Covington 21:28, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations - I can see that you are making good use of the admin tools already. Best of luck with the "learning curve"! Sophia ^{Gilraen of Dorthonion} 21:34, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

(Belated? Pfft, you wish) Congrats! :DMoppEr ^Speak! 21:45, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Best wish for your adminship.--Jusjih 06:02, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Afc template

Please take a look at my edit on User:Deskana/UnsourcedAfc. To me changing those two fragments around sounds more natural. Please let me know if you have any problems with that. - Mgm|^(talk) 11:06, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

That's fine, thanks for that. :-) --Darth Deskana (talk page) 11:09, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Changin in the sorting algorithm article

No, it wasn't an experiment. If you read the article about library sorting it says that the algorithm is not stable. Maybe I should just have shanged the flag to "No" instead of adding a question mark (or added parathesis). Or what should I have done?

Changing the flag to "No" would have been better. But you'll need to cite a source (at least in your edit summary, but preferably in the article) or someone will likely revert your changes like I did. --Darth Deskana (talk page) 12:21, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for getting 72.1.206.178! — ceejayoz ^talk 18:46, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

• It was undone by User:Prodego so don't thank me too much! --Darth Deskana (talk page) 18:50, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

72.1.206.178

I undid your block on this user because the user hadn't vandalized past the last warning, and (mainly) because IP addresses should not be blocked longer than 1 month. If you disagree with my action, please let me know. Thanks, Prodego ^talk 18:49, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

That's fine... I'm new to this and was unaware of a maximum time for IP addresses, though I remember reading the blocking policy. Must have missed that. Thanks for pointing this out! --Darth Deskana (talk page) 18:52, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, good luck. I am a pretty new admin too, my RFA passed on 3 April 2006, so you're not alone! Prodego ^talk 18:56, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

User talk:69.51.65.60

Just wanted to say thanks for blocking that so-and-so. Maestlin 21:07, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

No problem! --Darth Deskana (talk page) 21:08, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Block conflicts

You just block conflicted me on User:217.23.228.197. In the future, please check the block log prior to blocking to ensure that you aren't going to cause conflicts. Or, if you are intentionally reducing the duration of a block, unblock first and then reblock so we know this is what you intended. Thank you. --Cyde Weys 09:06, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Ooops... I normally do check. Apologies. I'm new to this... what do I do now? Unblock the user then reblock them for the duration that you blocked them for? --Darth Deskana (talk page) 09:07, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, the shorter block 'wins' so if I block you forever and you block you for 1 second, then you are blocked for a second, regardless of who blocked first. I think that just leaving it at 2 weeks is probably fine though. Prodego ^talk 19:29, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

AFC templates move

I've decided to move the templates and hope it allows you some more time with college work. - Mgm|^(talk) 07:16, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

• I'm done. Take a look at Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Templates for the result. The links in your personal namespace still work. - Mgm|^(talk) 07:31, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

That's great. Thanks! --Darth Deskana (talk page) 07:55, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

May the Force be with you.

Dear Deskana/Archive 2,

Thanks for voting on my RFA! I appreciate your faith in me, and was overwhelmed by the positive response to my RFA; for it shows that at least I'm doing something right. :) I've started working to improve myself already, and I hope that next time, things run better, and maybe, just maybe, one day we can bask on the shores of Admintopia together. Thanks and cheers, _-M o P-_ 06:48, Tuesday June 10, 2008 (UTC)

WP:ABUSE

Thanks for the report! However, if you've already contacted them, there's not really much that we can do, seeing as that's what our end result would be. All we're here for is to be an aid to contacting ISPs: if you do it yourself than that's fine as well. Cheers! Snoutwood (talk) 17:56, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

• OK. Thanks! --Darth Deskana (talk page) 17:58, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
  • My pleasure. Say, if you like contact work, it'd be handy to have another contactor apart from just Essjay and me. Feel free to add yourself on if you want. No requirement, of course. Snoutwood (talk) 18:09, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
    • Ooooh. Sounds fun! Added myself... I see both you and Essjay are investigators too... do I have to do that in addition to the contact work? I added myself as a contactor by the way! Thanks for the suggestion! --Darth Deskana (talk page) 18:11, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
      • Huzzah! No, you don't have to do investigative work. Just help out as you can where you can. Snoutwood (talk) 18:15, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for tip

Thank you, Deskana. I'll make sure to have all the diffs in order before posting.

There are two seperate issues here, however. One is Sean Black's actions, but more important, I'm interested in clearing my record. Is WP:AN/I the right place to pursue the latter?Timothy Usher 20:35, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

"Clearing your record"? Do you mean this from a technical or reputation standpoint? How do you mean? --Darth Deskana (talk page) 20:36, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Reputation - the technical record merely shows what Sean Black did to me.Timothy Usher 20:40, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, that really is a question that is difficult to answer. I'd say that if you proved your accusations correct and they were accepted by administrators on WP:AN/I then your reputation will be restored. Whatever you post on WP:AN/I, I'll take a detailed look at it, but I can't guarantee I'll end up endorsing your summary. You might also consider a User Conduct RfC, which might be more appropriate if you really do believe that this needs to be taken further than a note on an administrator board. --Darth Deskana (talk page) 20:43, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

No, an RfC is unnecessary, as I've no opinion of his conduct generally, beyond this matter. Even ANI seems a little much, though if it's the only way, I suppose I've little choice.

My guess is that he was doing a favor for Anonymous editor, took his word that I'd violated 3RR, and only later realized that I hadn't, leaving him with little to say and a strong desire to save face by avoiding the discussion. If he'd just admit his action was in error, that'd be enough.Timothy Usher 20:56, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

I wouldn't worry too much about listing it on ANI. It is simply a page for general incidents that require administrator attention, which is certainly what this is. You certainly seem to be conducting yourself properly and in an appropriate manner, remaining calm etc., so I'd encourage you to add your note to ANI. --Darth Deskana (talk page) 20:58, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Deleting revisions

Hi, as you know I'm a new admin. I've read the how to guide on removing page revisions from edit history... delete the page and then undelete all the versions except the ones you want deleted. I did that, but it got all mucked up. You've fixed it now... I was wondering if you might know where I went wrong, and be willing to explain how I can do this in the future? Thanks. --Darth Deskana (talk page) 22:10, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Hey, and congrats on your adminship! I'm not sure I'm going to be much help, but I'll try. Basically, what I did was to delete the article (completely), restored only the bad edit (by ticking it's box). The article is now all bad. So I moved it to a temp page Albatross/bad (which another admin had used as a dumping ground earlier!). The bad edit is now separated, so I deleted Albatross/bad and it's deleted (well, lives on as a deleted edit in that location, visible only to admins). I then restored the remaining edits at Albatross, ensuring I reverted back to the correct version of the page. Oh, and indefinitely blocked the initial poster of the material. Whether that's entirely right or not, I'm not sure - I couldn't find any guide! And I'm relatively new to adminship myself. Hope that kinda helps, feel free to ask if I'm not making sense or you have any other questions (although you probably won't get a reply until tomorrow, now...). Well spotted for catching the vandalism and attempting to remove it, keep up the gd work _└ ^UkPaolo/_talk^┐ 22:22, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

That's better than what I tried to do. I tried follow the guide exactly (WP:AHTG)... deleted the page, then clicked on every single edit aside from the one I wanted to restore, then clicked restore. Took ages, and didn't seem to work in the end either. I prefer your way, means I don't have to click over 500 tick boxes! Thanks for the explanation! --Darth Deskana (talk page) 22:24, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

I must be being daft, I couldn't see it in the Admin's guide! Yes, it seemed to me to be a major design flaw: I think officially you do tick everything other than the bad thing, but that must have taken you ages!! Maybe we should suggest a "check all" button :o) By the way, I note it's happenned again, another admin is now editing the page history. I can't understand why the guy posting the info isn't caught by the IP autoblock when he is indefinitely banned... v. annoying! Cheers, _└ ^UkPaolo/_talk^┐ 22:28, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

It's in the Undeletion section of that page... my guess is he switched IPs. I can keep an IP address for as long as I want, then get a new one when I want a new one, so could technically evade blocks. Wouldn't do that of course, nor would I stuff beans up my nose and tell people how I do it! --Darth Deskana (talk page) 22:31, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah I see it now, was being daft earlier. Yeah, must be changing IPs, tis the only way he could be avoiding the blocks. I spose theoretically I could, too, since my IP's allocated dynamically. One could wonder why he's bothering however! _└ ^UkPaolo/_talk^┐ 22:33, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Looks like someone's been reading my talk page! WP:AN#Selective Deletions. How about that? Good, eh? --Darth Deskana (talk page) 22:39, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

excellent! _└ ^UkPaolo/_talk^┐ 22:45, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Your purple tiger

Hi,

The photo of you at subway - where's the tiger? - Richardcavell 23:16, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

• Purple tiger- cleaning chemical! I have a spraybottle in my hand! :-P --Lord Deskana ^{Dark Lord of the Sith} 23:17, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

AfC

I was thinking, you could try and enlist User:Mathbot to do the archiving. Mathbot seems to be a reliable little multi-purpose bot! Thanks for the instructions! --Darth Deskana (talk page) 20:34, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, I was thinking you could try and enlist... ;) You can refer to my bot request. ×Meegs 07:01, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Concerning User:24.61.46.137

I see this as kind of spamming and left an appropriate message; I rolled back his edits. Cheers. Lectonar 12:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Protection of Xeni Jardin

The wikipedia guidelines are quite clear on this. Blogs are not reliable sources. As you can see here: Xeni Jardin#Criticism section removal, I have repeatedly said that criticism is appropriate if it is properly sourced. This isn't. It's a section made up of links to anonymous blogs with no value. I'm rather surprised that you leaped at this claim by an IP editor without checking things out... especially given Wikipedia's current attitude to biographical articles and their libel problems. - Motor (talk) 14:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Catholic censorship/revisionism

Musical Linguist and other Catholic censors are deleting sourced/cited information from the Pope Benedict XVI-related wikipages regarding his service in the German Army during World War II. As Musical Linguist is Irish and her homepage is clearly deciated to Catholic apologetics, one has to ask if she is qualified to be a Wikipedia administrator.

216.194.57.160 16:23, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Almost surely a sock ip of indef blocked user User:Rms125a@hotmail.com. --Syrthiss 17:01, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

I tend to pay no attention to stuff like this. I'm tempted to delete it from the page history, but I think doing that much gives comments like that more attention than they deserve, which is no attention whatsoever. --Lord Deskana ^{Dark Lord of the Sith} 21:43, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Re:Accidental revert

Yes, that revert was purely accidental. I think we both edited the page at the same time, and while I simply reverted to the last non-vandalized version, you were adding the tag. I saw it at once since I always check history after reverting to precisely prevent this kind of accidents and I was reverting my own revert when your message came. :)

Sorry about that, but since we patrol the same recent changes, you sometimes get things like that.

Edit: Forgot to sign, sorry it's kinda late here... :) -- Grafikm_fr ^(AutoGRAF) 22:35, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

No worries, my friend. It's late here too... need to be getting to bed. Just can't tear myself away! --Lord Deskana ^{Dark Lord of the Sith} 22:36, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Darth Revan

DoneRedd Dragon 08:11, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Congrats

Hello, and congratulations on you elevation as an administrator. --Bhadani 14:56, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Abdul's kebabs

It's a small world. TheShriek went to Manchester Uni and worked there for a while as a Post Doc RA so we know the area well! In case you don't let me recommend Abdul's kebabs just up from the Uni towards Rusholme - partcularly the naan doner with chili sauce & salad [3]. One of the big downers of being vegetarian is that I can't have them when we visit Manchester to see the Ma-in-law. As an aside TheShriek got a first so it's obviously "brain food"! Sophia ^{Gilraen of Dorthonion} 17:56, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Aha! Great, thanks for the recommendation! "Brain food" :-P --Lord Deskana ^{Dark Lord of the Sith} 17:59, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

User:125.236.44.45 block

Hello! I've reduced the block to 12 hours; this is a school IP which has suffered collateral damage in the past. Let me know if you have an opinion either way. :) RadioKirk talk to me 22:06, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

• That's fine by me! --Lord Deskana ^{Dark Lord of the Sith} 22:14, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Golden Sun candidates for deletion

Whoa, you got promoted to adminship? That's impressive! Now that you have deletion power, I was wondering if you could delete the following three articles that I stumbled upon during Search...

• Dora (Golden Sun character)
• Vale (Golden Sun location)
• Vault: Golden Sun location

Thanks for the time. Erik the Appreciator 20:18, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

I can't delete them without a speedy deletion criteria that applies to them, or else you need to put them through the WP:AfD process... Do you think a speedy deletion criteria applies? See WP:SPEEDY. Thanks! --Lord Deskana ^{Dark Lord of the Sith} 21:41, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Oh yeah, that's right. I'll have to look into that. Thanks! Erik the Appreciator 01:23, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

And by the way, thanks for fixing the dual-license on that mock image of mine. I'm only testing these various waters when it comes to my aptitude with Wikipedia tools and facilities. Erik the Appreciator 20:28, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

No problem! --Lord Deskana ^{Dark Lord of the Sith} 20:40, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for voting in my RfA!

Thank you for your vote in my RfA! It failed to gain consensus, but I'm glad I accepted the nomination. - Amgine 17:13, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Check again please

Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/3RR#User:Macedonia_2 I corrected the report.  NikoSilver  ^{(T) @ (C)} 22:54, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

copied from WP:AN3#User:Macedonia 2:

Thanks and sorry for the debate. (I still haven't understood despite further explanations -since the text did not just miraculously enter the version; it was inserted by him- but nevermind...) Someone should explain me this so that I don't make the same mistake(?) in future. Again, sorry.  NikoSilver  ^{(T) @ (C)} 08:57, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

No apologies necessary. I believe that in cases like this, the first time the text is added does not count as a revert. The second time counts as the first revert (revert to the version he made by adding the text), until the fifth time the text is added. This counts as the fourth revert and is blockable under the 3RR policy. Do you understand now? I realise I may not be explaining myself properly. --Lord Deskana ^{Dark Lord of the Sith} 10:00, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

I understood this perfectly and thank you (first addition is not a real revert). Now if he made a first deletion (instead of addition) would that be 3RR or not?  NikoSilver  ^{(T) @ (C)} 10:34, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

If it's a unique deletion- ie, the first time that it's been done. I'll try and look up a case that makes this clearer. --Lord Deskana ^{Dark Lord of the Sith} 14:33, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for voting on my RfA

Thanks so much for voting! Thanks so much for voting on my request for adminship. I have decided to withdraw my nomination as it seems that consensus will not be reached. If you voted in support, thanks for putting your trust in me to be a good admin. If you voted in opposition, thank you as well for your constructive criticism as it will only help me be a better Wikipedian and perhaps help if/when I apply for adminship again sometime in the future.

Mahogany

WP:AIV

Thank you for helping out us non-admin vandalism cops. You have just left a note on my talk page concerning ample warning for the "enemy", that they might convert. I was given a similar admonition recently from Atlant. I then asked him how new the test4 should be, and he could not answer, not being an administrator either. Perhaps you could help. Thank you again. --MrFish^{Go Fish} 14:12, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, there is no hard and fast rule. My opinion on this (and it is only mine) is that users who have just had their block expire and continue vandalising should be given a test4, then if they continue, should be blocked again. As for vandalism since the last test4 without a block, I'd say about 24 hours max. WP:AIV says "Do not list if they have not vandalized very recently (past 2 hours)". Hope this clears this up! --Lord Deskana ^{Dark Lord of the Sith} 14:17, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Admin question for you

210.159.223.5 has repeatedly blanked parts of Kochira Katsushika-ku Kameari Kōen-mae Hashutsujo, and repeatedly been warned about it. However, it's been over the course of about 2-3 weeks, so I'm not sure if I should block the IP. It seems to be only one person, though, since the only edits made by this person are on that page. Thoughts? Feel free to reply here as I'm watching the page. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 17:31, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

This is all down to opinion, but since the edits are spread across a few weeks, blocking would not be a good idea. Blocks are preventative, not punishments. Then again, since it seems to be a private static IP, I'd see no problem with blocking the user for a month (the maximum time you can block an IP is for a month, see WP:BLOCK). Congratulations on your adminship, anyway! --Lord Deskana ^{Dark Lord of the Sith} 21:51, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, I decided to block for a month since the only four edits that IP had were on that article, and they were all vandalism. We'll see what happens in a month. Thanks for the comments, and the congrats. (^_^) ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 22:30, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Hello

Sorry for any trouble I might have caused you in asking that question. My friend who made the account gave up on wikipedia, anyway. -user:Crisspy