Talk:Descent from Genghis Khan

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It is extremely stupid to limit this article to one descent only. Descent generally from Genghis is a legitimate topic. Maed 14:25, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

You should move it back, then, as the current title doesn't match the content. siafu 14:43, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Now it has been moved. The title Descent from Genghis Khan matches now the content. Maed 10:35, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Monarchy of England are of Mongol Decent? 2 Timur Lenk 3 The Khalkha Khans 4 More on Chromosomes of GK

[edit] Monarchy of England are of Mongol Decent?

Granted that if this article is somewhat accurate, does it mean that the brothers, Prince Harry and William share a bloodline with Genghis Khan?

That can be disputed. following the Mongol concept of spiritual descent absolutely yes. In the concept of genetic descent it is not yet evident. Wandalstouring 18:40, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Timur Lenk

Timur Lenk was no descendant of Ghenghis, he had a descendant of the Khan as formal head of state. Wandalstouring 18:38, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Spoof. --Ghirla ^-трёп- 12:10, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Timur claimed descent from Genghis Khan, but this claim was rather tenuous as it involved descent "through marriage". Whether or not he actually was descended from the first Khagan, he did attempt to use this descent to establish some measure of legitimacy for his rule. siafu 19:49, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

I removed Timur from the introduction, and wrote a few remarks about him in a new section "Unproven claims". Most of the information is from de:Timur Lenk. Btw: The english language article Timur is still quite ambiguous about this point, and should probably be improved as well.

There are a few more statements in the second half of the introduction that don't really belong there. Some of them may not be useful at all, others should probably be expanded on elswhere in the article. --Latebird 17:02, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Khalkha Khans

Some of the Khalkha Khans (I know of the Tusheet Khan, see Jebtsundamba, but maybe some of the others did too) at least claimed to be descendants of Chinggis. I don't know if they have any surviving descendants, but since they were there rulers of Mongolia for a while mentioning them sure would be warranted? Yaan 14:21, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] More on Chromosomes of GK

Here is the 5/18/07 News summary. Here is the abstract of paper on PubMed titled "Distribution of the male lineages of Genghis Khan's descendants in northern Eurasian populations"; article is in Russian. And finally, some comments about the paper are here. Seems like some of this could be incorporated into this page Ff123 23:50, 26 May 2007 (UTC)