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GAA comments

Hi i've noticed you left a number of comment of talk pages of gaa articials such as Talk:Tyrone GAA ,Talk:Joe Brolly and Talk:Francis Bellew i said this on the tyrone articial and will repeat it here talk pages are for discussing the articals such as problems and suggested improvements their a plenty of place to the net to banter but wiki isnt one of them

(Gnevin 14:08, 15 May 2006 (UTC))

Hello there

Just noticed some of your articles here and there, and you seem to be from around South Derry? What town(land), if you don't mind the question? Magherafelt myself. Pauric 22:32, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

I went to the Convent too, although I didn't actually finish it (was kicked out at 14, stupid mistake). I guess you'd be the year above me then, I'd have been getting my A Level results last week. --Pauric 15:46, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

GAA Project

Hi i noticed you readded yourself to the gaa project make sure you add it too your watchlist so you'll see changes as they happen (Gnevin 18:25, 14 September 2006 (UTC))

Celtic Park, Derry

I'm not sure my version Páirc an Cheiltigh is right either. Tuiseal Ginideach can be hard to get right. I'm also not sure quite if it's an accurate translation. It kinda means "the Park of the Celtic Person". Some of the more active members of wiki as gaeilge might be better at finding an accurate translation than me, I'm afraid. Good luck.

Le meas, Joe Byrne -- Talk -- Contribs - :ga: - :fr: - - 16:44, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Infobox note

Added that note dont know what the other note was for if you tell me i'll add (Gnevin 13:40, 16 September 2006 (UTC))

Derry GAA players

Hi there. I've noticed you've been creating a lot of good articles on members of the Derry GAA. One small thing, when you use counties for place of birth it's not County Derry, it's County Londonderry as per WP:IMOS. Also for country of birth it's not Ireland it would be Northern Ireland, County Londonderry isn't in the country of Ireland. Other than that keep up the good work on the articles. Ben W Bell talk 15:22, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

GAA Articials

Sorry to bother you but just something i've notice on many articials and i know it's not just you but make sure you the intro of articials says Gaelic Athletic Association with a link instead of GAA or GAA as GAA means nothing to people who just happen on articials (Gnevin 23:55, 20 September 2006 (UTC))

Your welcome

No prob, its so handy when its all well displayed, i love following every county championship!! Keep up the good work, the Derry pages are getting deadlier by the day. I'd place my bets on Ballinderry for the Derry Championship. Frainc 17:52 26 September 2006

Irish hunger strikers

I changed a few things on the infobox, added the Irish section, and changed it to green, although I'm not sure about the green, just it seemed like it would be a suiting colour. I'd be happy if you could play around with it a bit, maybe even remove the colour. I'm colourblind anyway. :P Pauric 17:25, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Derry/Londonderry name dispute

I've somewhat been following suit lately of making sure names comply to wikipedias Derry/Londonderry name agreement lately. If you have a look at this page, it shows all the pages that link to the article Londonderry, which is just a redirect to Derry. Basically, all these Londonderry links (for the most part, unless the article is talking about it being first named Londonderry), should be changed to Derry, although more end up there quite often, thought you might be interested in giving me a hand on it. Pauric 22:35, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, try this: Special:Whatlinkshere/Londonderry

Boxrec.com page regarding the John Duddy issue

I am having problems with another user called Oswald35 on the Boxrec.com page here - I have done a section on why Boxrec.com lists Duddy as British but he keeps deleting it and has now broken the 3RR. Can you please look into it?

I'll take a look. Who is this by the way? (Derry Boi 14:06, 13 October 2006 (UTC))


Dear Derry Boi--- I'm pasting to you what I did to another long-time editor about this issue:

Pauric---If I am out of line by adding this I apologize as I am new and do not know how to work the site and I'm just doing what I can to be heard, but I apologize if this is poor etiquette. As to the issue that Beaumontproject speaks of...I have already sent two e-mails to wiki administrators several hours ago about the issue. Please do look into it though if you have power to do something about it.

Beaumontproject continues to post criticism that is complete nonsense that he bases on an argument that he and another pal had from an internet message board which they now have a grudge against, which anyone with any research knowledge knows that a flame war from an internet message board is not a valid source.

Another editor and myself have tried several times to explain to Beaumontproject that an argument from an internet message board is not a valid source yet they continue to ignore that.

Being that you know the difference can you enlighten Beaumontproject that an arguement, or anything from an internet message board is not a valid source...he will not listen to me, or another editor about it, but since he has seeked your help then maybe you can let him know what is and what isn't a valid source!

Now the rules of the site state that editors should discuss and try to come to an agreement, but Beaumontproject and Vintagekits are only interested in posting the bogus criticism claim that got them banned from another site instead of listening to what we tried to tell them...that an argument from an internet message board is not a valid source and has no business being presented as fact. The page is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxrec.com which it is normal now as I deleted the criticism claim. Though I'm sure that we could probably use the stats for boxrec that is up on the Boxrec mediawiki page as it does what wiki does and describes the site...but it doesn't list any beef, which is what Beaumontproject wants to continue to post. As I said I sent two e-mails to wiki administrators several hours ago, but if you can do something a lot of people, including myself, would be grateful. Again, I apologize if I am contacting you in the wrong manner.

I'm not the person above who did not leave his name, but his handle is Beaumontproject.

I would be glad to have an arbitration about the issue.--Ozzwald35 14:29, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Gaelic in the English language Wikipedia

You are using Gaelic in the English language Wikipedia, please remove these edits into the Gaelic language Wikipedia. Just in case you were unaware of it here is the link http://ga.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pr%C3%ADomhleathanach

Historical reference to City of Derry/Londonderry

Hi, sorry to drop this message onto your page but I'm trying to invoke a discussion on the WP:IMOS page as to what to use for the historical references to the city of Derry/Londonderry. I am trying to obtain a non-POV neutral discussion over what terminology to use for this or whether the IMOS as it stands should indeed cover this. Since you have been involved in discussions over Derry or County Londonderry and the likes in the past I thought you may like to get involved in the discussion. See the appropriate talk to get involved. Thank you for your time. Ben W Bell talk 16:15, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Requested template

Hi i noticed your request here , next time dont be afraid to ask me as i've created the majority of gaa templates and it no trouble for me . User:Gnevin/sandbox9 here is the template if that ok let me know and i'll go ahead and create it (Gnevin 19:36, 13 November 2006 (UTC))

{{Derry clubs}} here it is (Gnevin 21:51, 15 November 2006 (UTC))

Seamus Heaney

We're wondering over at Talk:Seamus Heaney whether he's ever used "Séamas/Séamus Ó hEighnigh" himself, and Google doesn't turn up any results for either spelling. I noticed it was yourself who added it in originally; can you let us know where you sourced this name? Thanks! Demiurge 13:33, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

If you know anything about the Irish language you will know that that is the correct spelling/s for Seamus Heaney. Vintagekits 15:10, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Please see the talk page Talk:Seamus Heaney where we're trying to reach consensus on this. Demiurge 12:04, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Use of the descrition Volunteer

I thought you would be interested to see the following discussion where we are debating the use of the term volunteer as a member of the IRA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style_%28Ireland-related_articles%29#IRA_articles:_usage_of_the_word_.22volunteer.22 Vintagekits 16:25, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Irish Border

Hi, my work colleague, whom I consulted before making that comment some months ago, is from Warrenpoint. Moreover, if you know the geography of the area there is a fair expanse of water separating the two areas. How can the two places interact except by boat, which doesn't happen. There is no ferry service across the lough. You have to go into Newry then along the southern shore to get to co. Louth.

But I'll update the article to stop nit-picking.

This is clear, unlike with Derry which has huge interaction with Doenegal. Was this fact influencing your comments? bigpad 13:43, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Update: the ferry has restarted, so the page has been updated. What I said about interaction was correct at the time.

Irish History

You seem like you have a lot a knowledge with respect Irish history so maybe you would like to comment on the historic basis of this term here Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-12-02 IRA 'Volunteer' usage —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DownDaRoad (talk • contribs) 20:50, 7 December 2006 (UTC).Hello to you, it seems like this issue is coming to a close so if you wish to go and state that you agree with the solution provided by Jnestorius then you are more than welcome DownDaRoad 16:47, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

userbox Irish

Hallo fellow Irish man from the north, looked at your page and thought, you are more than a ga-1 ?!! Should you not 'upgrade' it. Oh how do you say 'Our Day Is Nearly Here' is it Ár Lá Atá Beagnach Anseo ? Happy Christmas & a Successful 2007, Sláinte! :) Culnacréann 01:02, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

I live in south-west Co. Down not far from Newry. But, 'our day is nearly here' is a WHOLE lot different from Tiocfaidh Ár Lá, that could be for ever! Culnacréann 19:48, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Gibraltar

Regardless of your or my views on the people shot in the Death on the Rock incident, they were found by both an inquest and the ECJ to have been engaged in the commission of terrorism. The uproar concerned whether it was necessary that they should be executed for planning the act of terrorism. It simply is not correct to say there was no proof they were going to do it. There was. Grace Note 13:45, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Template

Yeah i can do that for you no bother (Gnevin 14:51, 3 January 2007 (UTC))

User:Gnevin/sandbox6 i've assumed that where number 1 to 15 on the page if not can you provide the correct numbering ? Also who was the manager ? (Gnevin 18:58, 5 January 2007 (UTC))

IRA Volunteer issue

Go to this page, an Indian guy is being forced by Loyalists and West Brit who are demanding that the rank of Volunteer is banned for describing the rank of members of the IRA – if you do not voice your opinion on this then they are going to get away with this bull Vintagekits 22:18, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Hunger Strikers

As the category "People who died on the 1981 Irish hunger strike" is already a sub-category of "Irish rebels", there is no need to add this to the biographies of individual hunger strikers. PatGallacher 00:52, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

C.S. Lewis

Hi, I am writing regarding your constant removal of the words "Northern Ireland" from the C. S. Lewis article. I am trying to act in good faith and have tried to address the issues you raised in your edit summaries, but this has been to no avail. The present day state his birthplace is in has to be mentioned in the article. Your constant removal of it however, could lead less charitable editors to conclude that you are more interested in POV pushing than improving the article; I am working very hard to not reach that conclusion. That being said, I would ask that, as a gesture of good faith on your part, you raise this issue on the talk page and await some responses before deleting the information again. Other editors will simply revert your changes, of that I have no doubt, so if you are interested in your changes becoming permanent, I would suggest you enter into dialogue with them first. Cheers, Martin 00:54, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Your discussion on Ulster Championship brackets

I created Ulster Senior Club Football Championship 2006. Is there anyone that knows how to include the preminelary round game (Cross vs Gweedore) in the "Last 9 layout" brackets section? Derry Boi 15:20, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

I believe you'd have to switch from {{8TeamBracket}} to using {{16TeamBracket}} instead. Would be better if there was the possibility of blanking unneeded prelim. round boxes. Of course, you could subst: the template, and edit that code... Alai 07:09, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
I found this for the 1999 Rugby World Cup. Maybe you could manipulate it to the Ulster Championship. I don't know how to work the code.


  QF Playoffs Quarter finals Semi-finals Final
                                     
        
  Wales  Wales 9  
    Australia  Australia 24  
      
        
  South Africa  South Africa 21  
  Australia  Australia 27  
 England 45  
 Fiji 24  
   England 21
    South Africa  South Africa 44  
      
        
  Australia  Australia 35
  France  France 12
 Ireland 24  
 Argentina 28  
  France  France 47
     Argentina 26  
      
        
  New Zealand  New Zealand 31
  France  France 43  
 Scotland 35  
 Samoa 20  
   New Zealand 30
     Scotland 18  
      

--Macca7174 13:54, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of Tobermore Loyalist segment in Tobermore article amongst other biased edits

Whether you like to admit it or not, there is a loyalist tradition in South Londonderry, and by your deleting of something that is part of the history of Tobermore whether you like it or not, i can only assume that your opinion is biased, but having seen your republican slant i'm not too surprised.

I'm from South Derry like yourself and know that this part of Northern Ireland is more bitter than other areas, but at least have a unbiased attitude. Looking at othjer changes you've made it is very clear you have a biased republican agenda, most notably here when you removed the statement stating that Belfast is the capital of Northern Ireland:

"The good road connections (note that Carryduff was never at any time connected to the Irish rail network) and proximity to the capital, Belfast, made the town an ideal site for overspill development from Belfast in the 1960s."

And it is also clearly seen when you change Northern Irish jockeys to Irish despite the fact they were born in Northern Ireland and thus Northern Irish.

Stop being a biased bigot and accept the facts. Mabuska 23:04, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Mabuska - you are on thin ice and I show report you for a comment like "Stop being a biased bigot and accept the facts" --Vintagekits 01:53, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For your great work creating and modifying Derry GAA related articles, especially the clubs (Gnevin 21:46, 26 January 2007 (UTC))
No problem you deserve it! (Gnevin 23:18, 26 January 2007 (UTC))

Using Pól Mac Aodha in Bono

Hi Derry Boi!

I hope I didn't seem to abrupt there with removing 'Pól Mac Aodha' from the Bono article. I just have never seen him being called this before. I would think an appropriate time to use a name translation would be when the individual's name is used moreso in the country of origin and the English use of it is in minority. An example of this would be Mahatma Gandhi. But with Bono,

  1. His legal name is Paul David Hewson.
  2. He is known as Bono almost universally.
  3. He speaks English.

Beyond these reasons, we're already having a hard enough time trying to determine whether we should include KBE, the reference of a stage name, the reference of a nickname and the fact that he is "almost universally known as" Bono.

Again, I hope I'm not sounding harsh. If you disagree, feel free to discuss it on the talk page with our other discussion. Also, feel free to make comments on how you feel about the current points in our introduction dilemma. Chupper 21:39, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

The end of the mediation cabal on the term Volunteer is ending in two days.

The mediation process is ending in two days - you have two days to have you final say and 1. show any proof that Volunteer is a rank and 2. leave your final vote in coming to a consensus here. Thank you.--Vintagekits 22:50, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Raymond Gilmour‎- another nn IRA member up for deletion Astrotrain 20:03, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi there!

Hi! I just wanted to drop you a line to let you know that I've seen you around Wikipedia, as we apparently share some similar interests, and I've been very impressed with your contributions to the project! I also wanted to let you know that both you and Poetlister are in violation of the 3RR policy that Wikipedia has. It would be silly for me to block either of you, considering my own interest in the article, so please just consider this to be a friendly heads-up. Cheers gaillimhConas tá tú?

I actually completely agree with you, and discussing the matter with Poetlister is probably the best way to go. I'm also engaged in a discussion with her about using the word Derry, as opposed to Londonderry in the article. I have provided sources that support Heaney's identification as a Derryman, so perhaps if you found some sources that assert Heaney as being an Irish poet, it would help. They shouldn't be too hard to find, because as you mentioned afterall... he is, haha. Cheers gaillimhConas tá tú? 23:36, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Killed or Murdered

Show me the Wikipedia article stating the standard for murders during the Troubles to be listed as killed instead of murdered and it will be stated as killed. Otherwise the word murdered will remain as it means - "killed unlawfully", and i'm very sure a bobby trap bomb by a paramilitary group can be easily classed as unlawfully. Mabuska 20:30, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Again i will ask for you to show the actual Wikipedia standard article stating the word killed must be used rather than murdered. If there was a concensus then it will have been documented. Mabuska 22:24, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Gerry Adams nationality

Please see discussison on the Gerry Adams talk page. PaddyBriggs 09:38, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Flag of Northern Ireland debate

You have been involved in the flag debate on the Northern Ireland talk page. If you remember there were four option listed about the way forward. If you wish you can go here and make your position clear. regards--Vintagekits 22:08, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Catalan Flag

Hi,

I really think it's nice of you to support the independence of Catalonia, my nation, but it would be a lot nicer if you could actually edit the sandbox words at the right side of the flag from "basque country" to "Catalonia". :P

--Bluejay00 08:16, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I was just going to say the same thing. The country name is wrong, it should be Catalonia. --Hibernian 07:37, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Input needed

Botttom two sections. The IP editor is really starting to get on my nerves. Thanks. One Night In Hackney303 17:26, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Image:An Lúb.PNG

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1993 Championship

Hey. Where did you get the records for the 93 championship???--Macca7174 18:11, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I got the info from the program from the final. I was also at the 1995 final (and still have the program), so some day soon I'll add results, etc to the 1995 article. Have a few final programs in the 2000s as well, so when I get a bit of time I'll edit some of those articles as well. Just wish I could find a good GAA website which contains details, stats, results etc from times gone past. Derry Boi 01:00, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm sure if you followed An t'Iriseoir on An Fear Rua for long enough, you could probably piece together every game for the last 15-20 years. As it is, we have to rely on the print media. It would be quite easy to get every championship for the last 50 years, if you were willing(/able) to pay for it.
(P.S. wat does An t'Iriseoir mean??)--Macca7174 02:58, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Re:Ban

Thanks it was the most ridiculous ban i've seen on wiki, thankfully a other Admin agreed . Beware of "warnings" from users who turn out to be admins is all i can say (Gnevin 23:26, 3 July 2007 (UTC))

Names

Excellent work getting all the Irish names.--Vintagekits 20:44, 9 July 2007 (UTC)