User talk:Derek Andrews

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[edit] Green Methanol

Thanks Derek, I appreciate your help and input. No, Green Methanol from Technology Convergence is not the same. Their process depends on natural gas (CH4); therefore, it is not altogether green as it is based in a non-renewable resource. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Quidproquo2004 (talk • contribs) 06:32, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] publicity for Somerset Wiki

I think blogs would be great publicity or really, almost anything. My step son, who does the am news on Orchard FM declined the story about our wiki... I thought the 6 month mark would be a reasonable news peg... but I guess it would have to be a slow news day for them to go for it... Maybe I should drop a line to the roving reporters of the Western Gazette.... enjoy your trip out and about... cheers, Celia Kozlowski (talk) 00:14, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Planned trip to Wells and area

I will be in Wells for a week or so soon, and plan to do the following to aid Wikipedia:WikiProject Somerset.

Photos: Butleigh pub, court, church. Church of the Holy Ghost, Midsomer Norton, Coxley, Dinder House, Godney, Peat Moors Centre, The Abbey, Ditcheat, Warehouse, Langport, Viaduct Quarry, Mendip Way, Limestone Link, E,S,W.Horringtons .... Derek Andrews (talk) 18:16, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

There is no article for Dulcote, so I may gather material for that article. See http://asomersetfamilyhistory.blogspot.com/2007/04/dulcote-website.html

I also think there is scope for an article about Historic Buildings in Wells (or something of that nature), so I will get photos and do as much research as possible.

Other suggestions:

If you really want a challenge how about pinnacles, lacy tracery windows and bell openings, gargoyles, parapets, buttresses, merlons, and tall external stair turrets from Somerset churches (for a new article currently under construction) & possibly a Sheela na Gig eg the ones at Fiddington or Stoke-sub-Hamdon if you are traveling that far?— Rod talk 20:09, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Hi, Derek -- I second this suggestion

! At the Wells cathedral, you could also easily do niches with statues (and they usually also have pidgeons in them!) as well as the crossing tower ( i.e. not the west towers which lack a "crown". The crown on the crossing tower has good pinnacles on it. Our village church in Aller would be good for the merlons/tall external stair turrret... Come visit? It's not a spectacular tower, but it does show the alternative to the pinnacle crown-- namely merlons and tall stair turret. Cheers! Enjoy Wells -- I think it's wonderful. Also, I'm happy to have some more editing on my sandbox. The central problem is that the towers are organized and roughly dated according to a source that has now been seriously questioned -- like all his basic assumptions. Unfortunately the more recent article doesn't actually do his own taxonomy and dating of the towers -- he just concludes it should be done by a topflight team of experts with various specialities so all the evidence can be brought to bear on the task. I mean it does show how important our towers are, but it doesn't go very far to accomplishing the task! Celia Kozlowski (talk) 16:12, 21 March 2008 (UTC)


I'm limited by the minimal capabilities of my camera. Still waiting for the price of DSLR's to fall some more:) The larger things like butresses should be no problem, but small things way above ground level are probably not going to work - ie gargoyles and sheela na gigs. Did you have something specific in mind for this new article?? Derek Andrews (talk) 20:24, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Ages ago Celia suggested an article on Somerset church towers which she has been working on (& I've helped a bit) & the features listed above are seen as being their defining characteristics.— Rod talk 20:33, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
How far alonmg is this article. A quick search doesn't find it, but I did see your brief description on the project talk page.Derek Andrews (talk) 22:46, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
It's not in the "mainspace" yet. It's User:Celiakozlowski's article & in her sandbox (check her contributions to find it) - but the etiquette is we don't edit in other peoples sandbox without their invitation.— Rod talk 08:18, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Google satellite images

Hi Derek. I see you are adding links to Google satellite images. In fact the preferred method is to use the coord template (or one of its many forbears such as coor) to point to a location. This will then put a Coordinates link at the (for users of the default skin) top right of the Article page, below the title line. This brings up a link page to dozens of mapping resources for that exact location, with Google being at the top of the list! Your links are very well framed but are something of a duplication. The coord or coor template also causes the location to appear (some weeks later) as a clickable dot on Google Earth with a link back to the Wikipedia article. Best wishes. Oosoom Talk to me 23:10, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Somerset wikiproject

Following your proposal (& several people expressing an interest) I've started the basic templates etc at Wikipedia:WikiProject Somerset. Please add your ideas & contributions.— Rod talk 21:47, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Lydney map 1946.jpg

Do you think this map could be useful for the Lydney canal articles?Geni 16:37, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Absolutely. It shows the rail lines either side and gives a good idea of the area at a relevant time in the canals history. There are also good pics on http://www.geograph.org.uk just as soon as I figure out how to add them properly. Derek Andrews 17:01, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Normaly something along the lines of [[image:image name|thumb|right|caption]] works fairly well.Geni 21:21, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notability & locks on the K&A

Hi Derek, Deciding what is notable is not an exact science. Take a look at Wikipedia:Notability. Some of the locks on K&A are listed buildings ie "it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Others that aren't might not be considered as notable - if you want to argue for deletion on the grounds that they are not notable enough, you could do, but it would seem strange to include some & not others when they all have similar dates & history & would make to navigation system on the pages fall apart. Hope this helps & I don't think you can claim to be a newbie anymore :-).— Rod talk 15:48, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mendip Way

Hi Derek, I think its certainly on the right lines. I don't think you need to include the grid refs for individual sites. You don't need to cite what is from a map or what you can see but if there are any specific "facts" cited then you need to back them up. See South West Coast Path & associated talk page particularly the section headed "References" where we thrashed some of this out.Hope you enjoy walking it, I've done bits of the path but never the whole thing.— Rod talk 12:12, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Jamel Lewis

Hi, I reverted your addition of a speedy delete tag to this article: [1]. Notability is asserted; the article claims that he won a couple of championship belts. Thanks, Darkspots (talk) 19:00, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Peter Hattingh

I added some material to Peter Hattingh. Could you please revisit Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Peter Hattingh? --Eastmain (talk) 23:17, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Jim Molan

The first of your three edits adds value, but the other two are possibly the laziest non-vandalism I've seen. (Not to mention that there are references). If you are going to edit, then add value; adding trite boxes which urinate on the work of people who are trying to add value is a waste of your time, and discourages people who are actually trying to do something useful. Think before you type? Pdfpdf (talk) 13:30, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

My sincere apologies. I had no intention of disparaging your article. I was simply marking your new page as patrolled, and part of that process is to either fix or to tag problems. The outcome varies, depending on the content and the author. Some get marked for speedy deletion. In the case of new editors, I try to be as helpful and encouraging as I can. In the case of experienced editors like yourself, I fix what I can do easily, but where the subject area is beyond my expertise, I have always assumed that tags will be taken in good faith and the issues quickly resolved. I guess I will have to rethink the latter. Best regards. Derek Andrews (talk) 14:18, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your polite reply. I was in the middle of developing the article, and was hoping to go to bed and leave it incomplete. I am embarassed to admit that I over-reacted to your edits. Never-the-less, there was at least a grain of truth in my complaint, just as there was at least a grain of truth in your edits. I have always assumed that tags will be taken in good faith - yes, you should continue to do that, and ignore grumpy old men who over-react. and the issues quickly resolved. - right again - the issues have been resolved. I guess I will have to rethink the latter. - Maybe. Maybe not. People's moods vary, as will mine when I've had some sleep. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 14:35, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

I think that what I will do in future under these circumstances is to mark the page as patrolled, but make a note to come back in a day or two and check that things have moved along. Patrolling new pages seems to be a fast and furious task (it helps keep dross out of WP, and helps prevent new editors from wasting a lot of time) which encourages hasty decisions, when perhaps a slower approach may be more appropriate, but there seems to be no formal way to do this. My apologies again if I came across as a wikipedia nazi. To help those of us who sometimes patrol new pages, you may want to add Template:Underconstruction while you are building a new page; this should be sufficient to get the page marked as patrolled. Thanks for helping improve the way I do things. Derek Andrews (talk) 16:05, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

and helps prevent new editors from wasting a lot of time - Agreed.
you may want to add Template:Underconstruction - Yes. I'd forgotten about that one. Thanks for the reminder.
Thanks for helping improve the way I do things - and thanks for reminding me to assume good faith and not immediately jump to negative conclusions.
Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 09:53, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your advice to User:Mallard4468a4

It is quite good, and I thank you for it. I disagree about the notability of most of these glorious old machines, but your advice is rock-solid. --Orange Mike | Talk 22:09, 1 May 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Offer of Adoption

I am not sure if this is how I am supposed to reply but it was all I could figure out! I would love to be adopted by you! Free Fiend (talk) 14:15, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

You did good. How can I help you? Do you have any particular problems right now? What topic areas are you interested in editing? A good way to get started is to try and find a wikiproject in a subject area you know something about. They usually have lists of tasks that need doing, some as simple as copyediting, or making wikilinks in articles. -- Derek Andrews (talk) 14:23, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


I know a lot about the Meiji Restoration in Japan, The Cold War, the USSR and the PRC (although I know that the last three already have really good articles) I also know a lot about the Colorado Rockies and the New York Mets. I don't really know what I want to edit. Just that I think it would be fun to do. Where can one find lists of tasks? Free Fiend (talk) 00:07, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

There is a wikiproject for the Cold War Wikipedia:WikiProject Cold War. If you scroll down that page you will find some Article Requests. If there is anything there that takes your fancy, you should perhaps start writing it in your user space, for example at a new page called [[2]]. The reason for doing it there is that no one will bother you - if it goes in the main namespace as a real article, you may find it deleted very quickly if you don't meet basic wikipedia rules. So do it in your userspace and we can work on it together until it meets all the basics.
Meiji Restoration currently needs someone to add inline citations. Click on the discussion tab and you will see a few pointers. You will also see that that page is part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Japan, and if you scroll down that page you will again find lists of tasks that need doing. As for USSR and PRC, just go to those articles, and look to see which project(s) they belong to on their discussion page.
let me know how you make out. -- Derek Andrews (talk) 01:18, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Textile Research Centre

Dear Derek, Many thanks for your comments and help with the TRC page. It is appreciated. Textile Research Centre, Leiden is often used as the title for the TRC. Could you change it for me as I am not really sure how to! Is there anything else that needs to or can be improved? Bye for now, Gillian —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vogelsang-eastwood (talk • contribs) 07:02, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Textile Reserach Centre

Derek, Many thanks for helping out. I try making the additions today, but will come back to you if too difficult. gillian Vogelsang-eastwood (talk) 07:30, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Adelphi Canal

Thanks for your note on the Adelphi Canal article, which I have just noticed. I have left a response there. Bob1960evens (talk) 17:05, 11 May 2008 (UTC)