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to my knowlege the fastes bicycle was the diablo, recumbent bicycle. [1]

That's the 200m flying start unpaced (Sam Whittingham) at about 81mph if memory serves. The fastest absolute speed is just short of 270 km/h, which is about 170mph, set by Fred Rompelberg I think at Bonneville Salt Flats in the mid 1990s. That was motor paced. I guess this data will be available from Guinness on the web, but it's pretty much common knowledge among speed weenies anyway. - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] 14:10, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
Here you go: [2]. It would have been easy enough for you to check and add a cite if you really want to rather than mess the article up with a needless tag, though. The tag is supposed to be for situations where you've tried to verify something and it's not immediately obvious. - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] 14:15, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
I'm not really arguing here about the facts. I'm arguing about the wiki procedure that is need to support the facts. For average Joe or little suzy in grade 6 how are they supposed to know where to look for more information on the subject? and as for the {{fact}} I brush-up and check that out. --CyclePat 14:19, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
I just checked the spread sheet for the Varna Diablo and after converting the speed it appears it was 128 Km/h. conversion spread sheet. Thank you, I learnt something new. Could we please put your source in the document now? --CyclePat 14:25, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

I think this would be good: Fastest Bicycle Speed. Guiness World Records. Retrieved on February 2nd, 2006. --CyclePat 14:33, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Since there is not author I think we should use the contreversial yet useful WP:FN.

After about one hour of fidling around. (actually 56 minutes) we whre able to resolbe one inproperly cited fact. And at the same time we implemented the footnote and reference system to the article. If you are interest every step is loged here. Good job everyone! Thank you JzG. --CyclePat 14:58, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

The new changes, though I applaud your attempt JzG, is not quite what we need. I think the information we are linking to is not as verifiable as the original source you provided. The link to another wiki article should be okay generally but in this case I don't think it is. The main reason is because we are making it more dificult to find the primary source information. The second reason is because the source we are now linking to (cycling records) is lacking some important references and citations. This leaves us in practically the same situation we where about 2 hours ago. --CyclePat 15:53, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

If we add the footnote to the article cycling records that should solve the problem, right? --CyclePat 16:02, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
Unnecessary: that article names it as a Guinness record and cites Guinness World Records as a source. - Just zis  Guy, you know? [T]/[C] 18:15, 2 February 2006 (UTC)