Talk:Der Ring des Nibelungen: Composition of the music/Comments

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B Class. As with its companion article on the text, this well-written article is close to A Class status, but it needs better illustrations. (These are necessary for A Class according to the Wagner Project Quality Scale.) Specifically:

  • There is one missing picture
  • The summary table is too wide and needs to be re-designed.

-- Kleinzach 11:04, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

B class. What is the missing picture? They all seem to be there as far as I can see. Two other points:

  • Summary table: the redesign should incorporate the dates of the various versions and revisions
  • References: if material from any of these is used in the article, there should be inline references. Maybe an extra Further Reading section, omitting works that have inline references, would then be appropriate, but I'd have thought that a new article, called something like "An annotated bibliography of Der Ring des Nibelungen" and also incorporating material from the other Ring articles might be a better idea.

--GuillaumeTell 11:01, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

On my browser at least, the second picture (Das Rheingold section) is an empty frame. -- Kleinzach 13:18, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Well, on both of mine (IE 6.0 and Netscape 8.1.3) it looks just fine. We're talking about the one called Wagners_autograph_of_Rheingold.PNG, right? --GuillaumeTell 16:07, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Yes. Never known this before. (I'm using Mac/Safari.) -- Kleinzach 02:00, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

B class. As mentioned above a very thorough article. Thought should be given for getting this article towards WP:GAC. What is expected of good articles is explained at WP:WIAGA. Thoughts that strike me which should be addressed before nomination are:

  • The style and structuring! There are an awful lot of exclamation marks for no particular reason! I might also reorganise the headings to have one main Siegfried heading and three subsuduary ones. The lead could be expanded a bit to mention e.g. multiple stages of composition. WWV should be explained in the main text.
  • Evidencing of information: As GT says, there needs to be much more inline referencing. When it is said that the scores may or may not have been lost with Hitler, then references to either side of the argument should be included.
  • It might be worth having at least one illustration of a scene from the Ring and musical illustrations e.g. of Walkurenritt or the Rheingold prelude, as these are discussed.

--Peter cohen 12:37, 15 September 2007 (UTC)