User talk:Denstat

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Hello, Denstat, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome!  Nivus|(talk)|(desk) 12:49, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, Nivus! Denstat 04:43, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Exploring Wiki concerns

Today I read about Countering Systemic Bias on Wikipedia (or WP:CSB). My recent contributions have been to pop culture rather than to issues or historical topics, but I find CSB a worthy tenet and may look into getting involved in this area.

Lots to think on and read in this Wikiverse. Denstat 04:43, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Concordia University user boxes

You're most welcome. I'm glad to find a fellow Concordian at last; McGill students have been very active in comparison. You might be interested in a page I initiated on the Commons about Concordia: [1]. I have started uploading a few images, but there aren't many yet. If you have any please feel free to upload them. I was taking example on the McGill page: [2]. Happy editing! IronChris | (talk) 21:50, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] a note

I'm actually not DJheart. damn concordia politics.

[edit] Thank you

Thank you for your attempt to be reasonable and fair on the Concordia University page. I am giving up for the reasons I stated on the CU talk page, but I appreciate the fact that someone from Montreal is on my side.

--Uac1530 17:05, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank _you_! I came in late to the discussion, and good on you for staying in as long as you did, and for your intellectual honesty. I wouldn't worry about the outcome, even if the current majority insists on no DAB page despite there being no consensus -- all it will take is alumni or staff of the many Concordia Universities worldwide to become more active Wikipedians for the debate to re-open, to bust the narrow view open, and for fairness to finally ensue. Cheers! -- Denstat 16:33, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Montreal

My edits were to the sports teams table, and any other changes were accidental and probably caused by reverting to my last version. Feel free to make whatever edits you made again. Thanks, ed g2s • talk 08:08, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gothic Fashion

Hey Denstat. The structural changes look pretty good. I think the whole article could use some retooling though. Right off the bat, there should be more emphasis on the artistic creativity that produced gothic fashion by way of the art-minded punk and post-punk scenes. Mention could be made of other clubs aside from the Batcave during the early 80s that encouraged unconventional and creative fashion like the New Romantic-ish Blitz Kids from the Blitz club and other fashion conscious artists and designers who were directly inspired by punk rock. I have a small problem with one line in the article that says something about how male Black Metal fans share similar fashion similarities with goths, really it should be highlighted that a lot of the black metal look was lifted directly from pre-existing Goth fashion and coopted into that scene. I think there should be more mention of how films and media, starting in the 90s till today, have influenced modern gothic fashion with younger goths. There should be some sort of timeline where Gothic fashion has changed over the course of time starting with the original more monochromatic DIY punk look, to the late 80s victorian/puffy shirt look to the early 90s fetish-BDSM/stretch vinyl look that's still popular today and eventually to the cybergoth rave kid look and fat pants hip-hop look that started around the late 90s. There should be mention of how older goths are resisting the newer fetish and techno influenced fashion. I also feel that the whole Defining a Goth Fashion Aesthetic section could be trimmed down as it plays mostly on unverifiable POV type conjecture. It's a bit fluffy and abstract, and doesn't really get to the real reasons most Goths dress in black, which is... black just looks cool :) --Adrift* 17:32, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

hi Adrift*, yeah, that last section has highlights but kinda characterizes my problem, which is i'd love to add specific historical influences, people, artists, seminal club events, movements, etcetera, but just don't have that info. i'd love to see stuff about DIY goths who later became designers, for example, and post-modern media influences. the kind of structure you describe has been used in Punk Fashion and Deathrock Fashion and while functional, my concern is that there's got to be a way to integrate it into Gothic fashion in a less redundant way. lists and timelines are great tools, however. you know, it strikes me that all of us working on articles about fashion in subcultures could benefit from collaborating on a project for a master timeline of alternative fashion that incorporates everything. there would be less bickering (or rather, the bickering located in one article instead of across several of the subsets, meaning less time wasted watching several articles!), and mean creating a new, "mother" article. the timeline could be helpful as a reference tool for the main Goth article too. the Defining a Goth Aesthetic section could be transmuted (plus chop, chop) for any relevant writing about general Alternative fashion. do you know how to set up a Wiki project? i've never done it. -- Denstat 20:51, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
No I wish i did. I like the idea though... but i think for the most part i'm gonna sit out on the whole fashion article(s). Maybe come by once in awhile to tweak here and there. As far as finding info on where fashion originated and how it evolved, i think it's going to take a bit of investigating. Would be a great thing to write a book on though.--Adrift* 16:58, 17 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] WP:NPA by User:Dumbden on my User page

unregistered User:Dumbden wrote this:

I enjoy deleting entries on Wikipedia because it makes me feel smarter. What I feel is irrelevant must be deleted because I am smart since I am an unheard editor and writer. I like to go everywhere telling people I am an editor and writer and what university I went as if they care. (-- unsigned comment at the top of this page, by someone who riffed off my Username by inventing User:Dumbden)

hey Dumbden, too bad you can't engage with me openly on either my Talk page, or a Talk page of any article where you seem to dispute one of my editing choices, and instead leave a childish personal attack on my User page. if you have a dispute with someone, how can you resolve it if you don't specify what it is to the user in question? i've made hundreds of contributions since march 2006, and so your personal attack is uninformative on top of being, well, a personal attack. pretty ironic that you chose a username that also reflects an inability to speak. it would be great if you changed your mind, registered an account, and jumped into a discussion to take up whatever point offended you, because there's always time to debate a point, or effect a reversion.
speaking of, please follow wikipedia's no personal attacks policy, and stop posting on my User page. i've left you a similar message on your own Talk page, as per wiki policy. -- Denstat 23:39, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Thank you for stopping by my talk page...it's funny, but once you start getting more "involved" with wikipedia, the more you realize how insane things can get. Oh well. I'm still very glad we have a lot of great people keeping an eye on the goth-related articles. CatZilla 16:10, 05 October 2006 (UTC)

you're most welcome. i've unhooked from some more insane articles, but keep finding plenty that attract my interest. it's great to work with other cool folks. -- Denstat 05:20, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Hey, just stopping by to say kudos on the great Queer Eye and related edits. Queer Scout 19:36, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

thanks so much. i admire love the show; this, from someone who's very selective about tv! i'm going to complete the rest of the cast members' pages to achieve some structural consistency. cheers back atcha for your efforts on the same pages! -- Denstat 05:20, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: userboxes designed by you

Hello, and thanks for the message.

No, I didn't create the original oops box, though I did some edits to it. What I'm doing right now, though, is hosting it on my user page to speed up the spread of the GUS policy.

[edit] Gabriel Van Helsing

The scope of WikiProject Dogs has recently been expanded to include all of the canine family, as some other canines and dogs can fairly easily interbreed and the other canine aricles haven't been directly supported by any other project. You will notice that even the picture on the project banner has even been changed to that of a wolf. Technically, the project has been expanded to include all articles within the Category:Canines, as has been indicated on the project page. Unfortunately, all of the "fictional werewolves" have been placed in one of the subcategories of the canines category, so, more or less by definition, they fell within the expanded scope of the project. I won't ask you to restore the banner, although I acknowledge that at some time in the future I or someone else by mistake might restore it at some point in the future, but I do think that it would be a good idea if ultimately all the articles in wikipedia clearly fall within the scope of some project doing assessments, so that we all know where articles stand in terms of quality. And, on a minor point, I'm not sure about whether this was done in the movie or not, but I've always found it to be the case in Dutch names, which van Helsing is, that the "van" in any name using the prefix has a lower-case, not an upper-case, "V". Badbilltucker 14:12, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

hi, thanks for the response -- i understand better why the banner was added. perhaps a wiki film project banner, or other similar but more suitable banner might be added. as long as i remain on the article i'll try to work with this, as i agree about the need for article assessment categories. as for the "van", i'll check into it too, and leave you a note about what i learn. i suspect that in the world of the film itself, that the van remains capitalized, but i'll get the facts. -- Denstat 19:03, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
i gave up working on the article a couple of months ago, for lack of time to fight the fan element. also the film Van Helsing especially!! -- Denstat 06:37, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] queer eye

wp allows porn links no doubt about it see WP:Is not censored even if its not a parody, the title is or change the wording to play on words, or eludes to, is there a more accurate term i am not comming up with, i think there is one. but as for trivia, it should definatly go there, like that movie saving ryan's privates its not a parody but its titled is. or drill bill whose title is ominously similar to kill bill.T ALK•QRC2006•¢ʘñ†®¡ß§ 06:33, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

hi, thanks for that, i didn't know that there was a WP:Not Censored policy, and am glad it's not censored. personally just as another fellow editor i don't mind if porn links are present, but i'll look to the discussion page to see what others think about the parody point. cheers! -- Denstat 05:08, 29 April 2007 (UTC)


BLIND WILLIE JOHNSON Denstat Can you please contact me at jrharper4@comcast.net about the Blind Willie Johnson article? Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.30.219.119 (talk) 19:55, 27 February 2008 (UTC)