Talk:Denys Arcand
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Question: somebody has listed Arcand at List of famous gay, lesbian or bisexual people. I know that this article was also previously categorized as Category:Gay, lesbian or bisexual people, but the category's been removed since the last time I was here. The article makes no mention of this; in fact, it mentions that he's been married twice to women. I do realize that bisexuality does exist, being one myself and all, so I'm asking about it before taking any action: is there any supporting evidence to have Arcand listed as gay or bisexual, or should he be removed from that list? Bearcat 10:24, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)
[edit] Quebec a Nation ?
He finally earned from his own nation one of its highest distinction, the title of Knight of the National Order of Quebec, in 2000.
- Is this saying the the knighthood is from Canada or Quebec. Quebec is a province in the country of Canada. Although Ottawa was recognized Quebec as a distinct society it has never been recognised as a nation. I will change the text to read "his own province"
User:Dowew May 30th 2005.
- http://www.gg.ca/media/doc.asp?lang=e&DocID=4454 is saying that Arcand is a
CommanderKnight in the National Order of Quebec. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 7 July 2005 07:04 (UTC)- The reason why the post nominal is C.Q. is the C is for chevalier, knight in French. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 7 July 2005 07:11 (UTC)
[edit] Yes
1) Let's not use a "bias" support on this one. The very American administrative secret files of the '80s were stating that Quebec qualifies as a Nation in all generally accepted definitions of a nation. It has a people from the same origin who share a common history, a common language, distinct culture and geographic boundaries. Not only does it qualify as a nation, in the view if the American international expert, it would form a viable, legitimate and respectable country.
One can read "Dans l'oeil de l'aigle", a book by university professor Jean-François Lisée for the complete story. Lisée got the files declassified after intensive request to FBI and CIA as I remember. Granted you can understand French he gives the whole story here [1].
2) Recently, the fact Quebec is a Nation was agreed in the very Canadian House of commons, and its prime minister, the conservative Mr Harper. Not to mention, on the other side of the spectrum, the NDP, the leftist party of Canada. Or the Bloc Québécois.
Oh and by the way, this article is really not very specific in term of the understanding of Arcand's style, esthetic origins, or lifelong ideological thread. I believe one could read the French version and work something from there.
[edit] No
Regardless of what any so-called American "expert" has to say about Québec's nationhood, you are wrong about the Parliamentary recognition of "Québec" as a nation. The recognition was that of the "Québécois" as a nation. Although the legal definition in Québec of Québécois is any resident of Québec, everyone (including Prime Minister Harper) knows that many people in Québec (especially anglophones and allophones) do not self-identify as such. The Québécois are, in plain speaking, an ethno-linguistic group which forms a majority in Québec. These people do not exercise some divine right to rule solely over the territory which forms province of Québec. The province does not belong to them only, whether or not their culture is closely tied to it. It belongs to everyone here, and to everyone in Canada (which is a nation, in which Québec takes part and to which Denys Arcand belongs). To say "honored by his own nation" as you have, after mentioning already that he was honored by Canada, makes it sound like Québec is his nation while Canada is not (which it clearly and factually is).
The word nation in this context in this article is a politically loaded buzzword which sparks too much debate for use in this article. I think it ought to be changed to something that none of us can deny; Québec is a Canadian province.
70.80.13.247 19:12, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
