Talk:Denton, Texas
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[edit] population
Denton's population is now considered to be over 100,000. Andrewhime 15:38, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Music subsection is getting long
Do we really need to have a listing of every known/slightly known/virtually unknown band to have originated in Denton? There's a couple in there (Porn most notably) that don't even appear to be bands, just vandalism. At the minimum, this should be split off into a Musicians from Denton, Texas article or something like that. (preceeding unsigned comment was added by User:Wesmills at 23:20, 1 August 2006)
- Seeing no objections here, I've split off the list of musicians into its own page. Please add subsequent information to that page. Wesmills 07:44, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Questions
Hey. I was doing some editing, trying to improve the quality of the article, and I have a few questions. 1. Under Culture the article refers to residents of Denton as "Dentonites." Is this the correct word, or is it "Dentonians?" I've lived here for three years, and I would have said Dentonians, but I could be wrong.
--NetherlandishYankee 04:31, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
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- I lived in Denton for several years, and usually we just said "people from Denton." I don't recall "Dentonites" or "Dentonians" being used except maybe once or twice. I think you could use either one, or both. --Ntmg05 00:10, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
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- I have lived in Denton all my life. "Dentonite" and "Dentonian" are terms you only hear from the college folk. You could use 'em, I guess. But it's kind of rare. Elaragirl 20:19, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
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"Dentonite" or "Dentonian" are both used AFAIK, but you're more likely to hear them from the Denton Record-Chronicle than you are a student. Andrewhime 16:19, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Among these "Dentonians" ;-) are there any other celebs/notable people than Mark Dalton (porn star) aka Jeremy James Son? My understanding is that he was a local track and field star and probably bodybuilding competitor before getting into porn; but are there any other nationall-known "people from Denton"? Enough to make a section of "People from Denton"?Skookum1 19:49, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
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- Yes, the actress Ann Sheridan, of King's Row fame. --NetherlandishYankee 04:11, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Denton Bible Church
Write your opinions below on whether it belongs in the community article as suggested by the Wikipedia:Places of local interest guideline and Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2007 January 2.--JEF 01:57, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
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- Your contribution says nothing about why Denton Bible Church and Tommy Nelson are significantly relevant to Denton. If DBC is that important to the city, the information should be rewritten to explain why it's so notable that it should be included on the main Denton article. If DBC is not notable enough for inclusion in this article nor notable enough for its own article, that's not my problem. I would be willing to accept a bulleted list of all churches in the community as that's a fair representation, but a commercial for one church should not be allowed to remain in this article. My edit is actually the best compromise for the least amount of work as it correctly associates the notability for this information in the "famous residents" section (with Tommy Nelson's affiliation to DBC clearly identified) without requiring extensive (and probably original) research into Denton's religious scene. --Ntmg05 02:18, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
- I agree with Ntmg05's proposal. It's fine to mention large local churches, but there's been no evidence presented to support this particular pastor's notability (and I think the amount of links is excessive). If a small town's downtown district was dominated by a large or historic church(s) that would be worth mentioning. According to this link, there are lots of churches in Denton (though some of these are probably on the outskirts). OhNoitsJamie Talk 02:21, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you. One other point: according to the Wikipedia:Places of local interest guide, the information presented here does not appear to meet the guidance suggested under Creating articles about places of local interest nor does it have any verifiable sources. --Ntmg05 02:24, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
- I agree with Ntmg05's proposal. It's fine to mention large local churches, but there's been no evidence presented to support this particular pastor's notability (and I think the amount of links is excessive). If a small town's downtown district was dominated by a large or historic church(s) that would be worth mentioning. According to this link, there are lots of churches in Denton (though some of these are probably on the outskirts). OhNoitsJamie Talk 02:21, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
- Your contribution says nothing about why Denton Bible Church and Tommy Nelson are significantly relevant to Denton. If DBC is that important to the city, the information should be rewritten to explain why it's so notable that it should be included on the main Denton article. If DBC is not notable enough for inclusion in this article nor notable enough for its own article, that's not my problem. I would be willing to accept a bulleted list of all churches in the community as that's a fair representation, but a commercial for one church should not be allowed to remain in this article. My edit is actually the best compromise for the least amount of work as it correctly associates the notability for this information in the "famous residents" section (with Tommy Nelson's affiliation to DBC clearly identified) without requiring extensive (and probably original) research into Denton's religious scene. --Ntmg05 02:18, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
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- Comment: When I noted places of local concern, I meant that under the place of local interest guideline it suggested that local articles be merged into the city's article. I also feel that the size of the church makes it notable if for nothing else, but I do feel that what Ntmg05 did was a fair compromise.--JEF 03:09, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
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- Just to clarify on the article's Talk page: the compromise I presented and agreed upon by Jorfer in our Talk pages noted that Tommy Nelson is a famous resident (with evidence provided by Jorfer and attribution to Denton Bible Church) but removed the Religion subsection since Denton Bible Church itself is not particularly notable. A congregation of that size is not uncommon in the Dallas/Fort-Worth metroplex, nor is its recent move into a new facility. It's a big church that's important to the community but no more so than First United Methodist or First Baptist. Additional comments are welcome here. --Ntmg05 17:25, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
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- Church is like Soylent Green: It's made of people. 209.55.80.148 (talk) 06:01, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
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- Just to note: There are at least three sub-articles here about Fry Street and even one about Fry Street Fair, but none about Denton's 100+ religious bodies. Surely this can be addressed, and a small note can be made about Denton Bible or whatever being the largest.207.43.79.22 18:50, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
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- Denton Bible Church is certainly important to its membership. it is a large church and has very good growth rate. However, I would not consider it any more important than the other large churches and maybe not any more important than all the much smaller churches. What I do feel would be important is a place to list all Denton Churches. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.32.209.129 (talk) 00:25, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Sister City
Should we add anything about Denton's sister city, San Nicolás de los Garza, Mexico? Noneus 00:20, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
- [Sister Cities International] Noneus 00:23, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
- I've been searching for this for a while. Is San Nicolas de los Garza, Nuevo Leon, Mexico Denton's only sister city? I could have sworn there were more... NThomas76207 01:02, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
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- The link above doesn't go anywhere. Basketball110 00:59, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] "Just North" or just "North"
According to the Denton Chamber of Commerce, "North of Ordinary" is the correct slogan for Denton Chamber of Commerce's new marking campain. But the Denton Convention and Visitor Bureau's slogan for the city is "Discover Denton…and all that jazz". Should both be included with footnotes denoting the CoC's & CVB's own mottos? NThomas76207 19:24, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
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- There's two possibilities. One, the official city web site has no motto or slogan listed, so there may be no official city slogan. However, the Denton Chamber of Commerce is contracted by the city to do economic development marketing projects 1. It's not immediately clear if "North of Ordinary" is a) part of the ED marketing campaign only, b) a separate slogan for the chamber in general but including ED, c) a slogan for the city at large, or d) all three, excepting individual city projects with their own slogans (like CVB's "Denton... And All That Jazz," which should not be considered a general city slogan due to it's association only with CVB projects). If I was forced to pick one, I'd go with choice "d) all three" as this casts the widest net given the available facts. --Ntmg05 21:52, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
- I found these two links.[1], [2] The latter is by the city's mayor. That's why I changed it from "Just North" to just "North". Let me know if I'm wrong, though. :) MahangaTalk to me 03:54, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
- There's two possibilities. One, the official city web site has no motto or slogan listed, so there may be no official city slogan. However, the Denton Chamber of Commerce is contracted by the city to do economic development marketing projects 1. It's not immediately clear if "North of Ordinary" is a) part of the ED marketing campaign only, b) a separate slogan for the chamber in general but including ED, c) a slogan for the city at large, or d) all three, excepting individual city projects with their own slogans (like CVB's "Denton... And All That Jazz," which should not be considered a general city slogan due to it's association only with CVB projects). If I was forced to pick one, I'd go with choice "d) all three" as this casts the widest net given the available facts. --Ntmg05 21:52, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Nickname
In the interest of bringing the page to that of the rest of the major Metroplex pages, does Denton have a nickname? Little D is the only one i know of but i feel it demotes the city and gives Denton the wrong impression NThomas76207 23:41, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Native American fighter?
Whoever heard of "John Denton: Native American fighter"? Surely there has to be someway to re-word this without saying "Injun killer" or "Indigenous tribal peoples murderer." "Frontier soldier," perhaps? 207.43.79.22 18:44, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:DCTA Downtown Denton Station Rendering.PNG
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[edit] snow job
Is it true, false, that today is the latest snow, here, winter, spring,..... per your recollection?
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