Talk:Dennis Bergkamp
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[edit] Fear of flying
About this, I believe I remember having heard that both his parents were killed in a plane crash. Can anyone confirm this? Seems like something that should go into the section on his aviophobia. Mortene 08:53, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
- It's not true, as a quick Google will confirm. Qwghlm 11:32, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
His aviophobia I think stems from a bad flying experience (emergency landing or similar) suffered whilst playing abroad, I think on international duty. It should be noted that early in his career he was prepared to fly (just as well when playing for Inter, whose fans may well not have been quite so understanding as dutch and arsenal supporters).81.157.183.220 19:43, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
Mortene's story (happily) is not true. The truth as far as I know is: during the '94 World Cup the Holland team between matches made a stop at an airport somewhere in the south of the US, I think it was Texas. A Dutch sports journalist jokingly remarked to a member of the crew there was a bomb on board. You can guess the result: the police came and turned the whole plane inside out, the Dutch team had to wait outside in the burning sun whilst this was happening. That probably caused his aviophobia. --Maarten1963 00:07, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
Aviophobia is maybe a misnomer. Bergkamp does admit he doesn't like flying, and as such avoids it, but to say that he has a phobia (that he has serious panicky spell during flights) is not true. His adversion to flying is not excessive or unreasonable, it is perfectly natural (everyone feels dread to some degree) but he just doesn't enjoy the possibility of dying thousands of feet from the ground, even if that possibility is admittedly slim. Mandel 13:11, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
In light of his recent retirement, I've just changed the "aviophobia" section to the past tense. "An anxiety disorder characterized by extreme and irrational fear of situations" - I don't think that it really extends to that, does it? Perhaps the heading should be softened to "Fear of flying" rather than an outright "phobia". Cyril Washbrook 07:19, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Just read this article, sheds some light on his fear and how to deal with it.
""Monday, February 06, 2006 hopes to cure fear by quitting his job The retirement plan is to fly into anonymityBy Matt Dickinson DENNIS BERGKAMP BELIEVES THAT retiring from football could cure his fear of flying. The Dutchman has not boarded a plane for more than a decade, missing dozens of important matches, but he hopes that he can conquer his pteromerhanophobia once he is freed from the pressure to board team flights. “Hopefully I can do it in a quiet way and that will take away some of the fear,” he said. “Being in the public eye is part of it. It will be interesting to see how it feels in a year or two’s time.” His phobia became so bad during his unhappy spell at Inter Milan that he was dreading the flight home during away matches in Europe. “Days before a flight I was thinking about it and getting really, really nervous physically,” he said. “Shaking and stuff. Then during the game I would be thinking already of flying home. So then it starts to affect your football and that is when I said, ‘No more.’ I had been doing it, but I was not happy at all. NI_MPU('middle'); “It came during my career, so I always thought I would address it after my career. Maybe this is the opportunity to address the problem without the pressure that you have to be at this game or that.” Success would allow Bergkamp to fulfil plans to travel to Africa, although his first post-retirement holiday is more likely to be in Cornwall. A father of four, he wants to spend some time exploring the country where he has set up home for almost 11 years. Bergkamp is eligible for a fast-track coaching course in the Netherlands, starting in September, but he has no plans to stay in football. “The only thing I like about football is playing the game,” he said. “I can’t imagine working all hours as a manager although you have to be careful because Marco van Basten said exactly the same. He disappeared for a few years but then came back to manage Holland. “A lot of people tell me with my vision, my way of playing, it would be a shame if that is lost even if I was just working with kids. That is the only thing that has crossed my mind but, next year, I want to get away from everything.” "" SED
I read a while back in a newspaper in Albania, where I'm from, that when Bergkamp was playing for the Ajax reserves, one time his team had to travel on a plane for an away game, but Bergkamp couldn't go because he was sick, had the flu I think. The plane crashed and everyone on the plane died. I've always thought this story was true until now. I'm not sure if this is the reason but this is what I've know for about 10 years now.
What I wrote above is partially true and I found this site where they explain why he is afraid to fly. "Bergkamp's fear of flying was also triggered in the US. A jornalist repored a false bomb threat on the plane which the Ducth team was on, and caused a panic. This incident reminded Bergkamp of an plane crash which killed many Surinamese-Dutch players when they flied to Surinam. After that Bergkamp decided not to fly again." http://www.bergkamp.faithweb.com/holland.html
I vividly remember during USA 94, due to the enormous size of the country(USA) teams had to travel long distances to play matches. The Team Coaches used to halt for breaks during the long rides. On one such occasion when the Dutch team were travelling, the journey was a bit too close for comfort. Bergkamp felt uneasy, got down from the bus & started taking walks to feel comfortable. For the rest of World Cup 94, the bus used to always stop & Bergkamp used to take walks! I know it seems absurd. Can anyone confirm this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Filterkaapi (talk • contribs) 10:31, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Testimonial
Although now retired from playing football, Bergkamp is having a testimonial game against Ajax which has provisionally been planned for July 22nd 2006. It will be the first game played at Arsenal's new Emirates Stadium. See http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=379251 Is this worth a mention in the article? 10 July 2006 (UTC)ÐÁŅ
- I would say so, that's why it's there, just above the Netherlands section. SLUMGUM yap stalk 03:47, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
I think there should be a mention on the actual testimonial session of the players involved. There ain't many players in the world that could have Johan Cruyff and Marco van Basten among many other stars playing in their testimonial. Everytime I put the list on, someone is there to remove it. 28 July 2006
Would like to move the part about Hoddle in the testimonial match to somewhere else. As it seems not quite related. --Vivianwkli 13:57, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Support Striker?
Since the article already says that he primarily played hole, should his position be corrected to "Support striker" or "hole"? Something similar has been done on the Franz Beckenbauer article, naming him as a sweeper. Partipo 05:38, 13 July 2006 (UTC)partipo
[edit] 98 goal against argentina
The article states he did a nutmeg on Ayala but Ayala's foot was in the air and the ball only bounced under his foot (that's what I saw at least) that's not a nutmeg.ErnestC 14:58, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Quotes on Marc Overmars
Would it be wise to remove the quote "Overmars was highly criticized during his years at Arsenal for "his seeming unwillingness to pass to anyone other than compatriot Dennis Bergkamp." [9]". As it seems not quite related somewhat.
Vivianwkli (talk) 06:40, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Goal of the Month
If my memory serves me correctly, when Bergkamp won 1st, 2nd and 3rd for Match of the Day's Goal of the Month competition in August 1997, it was not for his hat trick against Leicester City (27/08/97). I believe he won 1st place for his final goal in that game, 2nd place for the opener and 3rd place for one of the two goals he scored against Southampton at the Dell (23/08/97). Perhaps, if someone could confirm this, the line "for a hat trick against Leicester City" could be deleted.--JayGee134 (talk) 12:52, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
