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"Denim jeans have consistently been fashionable in American culture" ... not literally true of course, but does anyone have a dependable angle on how denim made its way first into US middle-class culture and finally into fashion? --Wetman 09:40, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Not disagreeing with the hemp argument...but does it really have a place in this article?

There are two stories from the 1960's that are a part of the lore as to how denim came back from near extinction to being a permanebt part of the culture. One is that the film Italic textEasy Rider" with it's romanticizing of motorcycles and pot-smoking, made wearing faded jeans into a fad. Previuosly, blue denim was made so that it didn't fade and I have seen sample nearly a century old that are the original color. The faded-blue patina of Indigo is what really caught on. The other story was that construction workers in New York would clean the sand and cement from their overalls by putting them into a cement mixer with gravel, which faded the denim and made it very soft and this is where stonewashing came from. The fashion side of the story is that a famous fashion designer walked by a construction site where these tanned, muscular construction workers were in their faded denim overalls and she found it quite erotic. Harry Mercer

[[Agree with Harry Mercer, but i believe, popularity of denim is - in denim itself, 1/one feel more secure in denim jeans, 2/since the denim is dyed with indigo the color saturates each time you wash it - it gives a new look on every wear. 3/Denim fabric got a depth - means, designers got a great canvas, they can do rinse was only for darker shades, stone washes for med to light shades, bleach for lighter shades, also a great length of othe designing things which are really in from last few years, like sand blasting, hand sanding, whiskers, chevrons, pinching, bursting, grinding, resin finishes and alot more. Babar 25 Mar '06]]

James Agee, in Let Us Now Praise Famous Men (1941), written while touring the South with Walker Evans, has a passage about denim beginning like a blueprint for what the overalls would become with time. So the color was certainly washing out of demin overalls during Depression years. --Wetman 08:45, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] de Nimes?

Sorry, but isn't the origin of denim from the French town of (de) Nimes?

DeadMansShoes 02:16, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Banned in Bucketsville

"In 1946, the jean was frowned upon by the residents of Buckettsville. They felt that the pant drew unnecessary attention, and thus enacted a dress code requiring neutral colored wool pants, the wool taken from their world renowned sheep, along with penny loafers." Can some appropriately sourced text about actual bans on jeans replace this text? --Wetman 16:54, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge of dry denim into this article

Do not merge. They should be two separate articles. --Liface 04:11, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Why? Dry denim appears to be just a different kind of denim MidgleyDJ 08:11, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
I agree that they should be merged. "Washed" denim and "dry" denim are denim. Period. What happens to them afterwards is immaterial. It's like saying that what happens to it afterwards is most important. Denimadept 20:54, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merge proposal

Perhaps I'm missing the point, but both "dry denim" and "selvage denim" are both denim. I don't see why these items need separate articles, whereas they'd make good sections of this article. Denimadept 16:01, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

In fact, I just noticed that the Dry denim article contains a section on "selvage denim"! This is silly. Denimadept 16:41, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Agree with merge. --Liface 22:55, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Articles merged! I've edited the text as I can to reconcile it to itself, but I probably missed something or other. I'm not a fabric adept, just the Denimadept 19:53, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

“Selvage denim (sometimes called selvedge denim) is a type of denim which forms a clean natural edge that does not unravel.” That is exactly like 100 % of all denim (or any other fabric) produced. From the presence of a self-edge in a pair of jeans you can conclude nothing about the quality of denim used.

These “lower grade denims that have separate wefts” are produced how? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.228.240.6 (talk) 22:20, August 26, 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Mavi Jeans

This company makes Dry Denim products? Denimadept 13:21, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Users of denim??

Do we really want a list of all companies which use denim for something? I suggest that if we're going to have a list of manufacturers, it should be a list of companies who make denim cloth, not who use it for things. I'm looking for consensus here. - Denimadept (talk) 20:15, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree. Until then though, the manufacturing section should be removed, because it's not in encyclopedia style. --Gyrcompass (talk) 03:28, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm looking for input. Having the section there prompts for it. I'm not a fabric person, so I don't know where the stuff comes from. My username has other sources. - Denimadept (talk) 03:32, 11 February 2008 (UTC)