Talk:Demographics of Vancouver

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[edit] Need for sources

A great deal of information has been added to the section on Asian Immigration. It is interesting, but, in accordance with Wikipedia policy on verifiability, we need to have sources for all information. Please provide citations. Sunray 08:00, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

As a further note, one of the paragraphs compares California and Vancouver. This is not parallel. You need to compare a city to a city or a state to a province. Sunray 08:00, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
In technical terms, yes, but the geodemotic reality or whatever you want to call it is that Vancouver is an informal pocket-state with its own economy, society and identity, vs other parts of Canada and its own province. And actually ditto with the term "California", which in the comparison would seem to be with urban California; all of a same, other than the fierce rivalry between "northern California" (the Bay Area and environs, which is actually in the southern half of the state...) and southern California; the California hinterland and to some degree the smaller cities are very much a different world, just as with the Interior here.Skookum1 07:37, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What's with the order of precedence?

Asian immigration comes first, Europeans (the largest group) second, and aboriginal people last. Shouldn't that be the other way around? I'll be changing it, with various other details added (the complexity of the British element and its various different backgrounds/routes to get here) and the what-for and when certain groups arrived (Croats and some Serbs post-WWI rather than before; Scandinavians, Germans, Italians and others from the very start in BC, particularly Scandinavians in early Vancouver because of the logging and mills and fishery (Germans and Italians and others more in the goldfields, away from Vancouver, until the railway anyway and re the Italians a new wave after WWI, re the Germans a new wave after WWII). The ethnic history of Gastown vs post-railway Vancouver is also a propos, as well as of course the drastic impacts of the Great War and the Great Depression upon the civic populations of the day. More on this later.Skookum1 07:37, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More on content issues

Please see my new note on Talk:Vancouver re the intro and content of the demographics section of that article; same issues apply here and have already been raised; I'm looking for co-input on how to rephrase the section, and to add to the content of this article likewise. Cites of for the interethnic and interracial marriage rates can be deduced from the "multiple responses" section of the census, although there are other references to this issue; likewise the particularly British-from-Britain nature of the British stock - a majority of those of British stock to this day have at least grandparents from the Isles; those with British-born parents have of course declined in proportion in recent years. Still a higher rate than in other parts of Canada, which distinguishes it from the British-from-other-parts-of-Canada, particularly from the centuries-old British stock in ON, QC and the Atlantic. As for the aboriginal content, somewhere there's a cite that Vancouver's the largest population of First Nations and Metis in the province, although they're negligible in the city equation (though highly visible nonetheless) relative to the 10-40% in smaller centres. Other than Mission and maybe North Van and, farther out, Chilliwack and Squamish, they're pretty out-of-sight in the 'burbs, too. Come to think of it is there a demographics section in Lower Mainland? (I'll look and maybe add some stuff).Skookum1 09:05, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lies, damned lies, and statistics

Those vulgar and misleading piecharts on visible minorities obviously got me going; more work is needed on this page to give it balance and a good historical perspective. there's redlinks in the tables that could use somee attention, I did what I could about linking while making/compiling these; maybe somebody could check my calculations (I used 0.00449 rounded up to 0.01, though....). The European, real European, content to Vancouver's population is too important to just shunt it all into one group, as the visible minority-leaning people have done. I doubt the guy who made the chart will want to make one for this; I'll see if I can figure out my Mac's equivalent of PowerPoint later and generate one, using the regional-grouping chart. I made them sortable but is there a way to have them default to a certain sort-order on first display? i.e. so the max population shows first? I guessI could just reorder them by hand, but.....Skookum1 (talk) 21:34, 20 April 2008 (UTC) NB these are obviously Metro Vancouver data, not City ofVancouver; not sure if Census Canada even releases that stuff, think you have to buy it...thought I found Mission's hte other day - but it was 1996's.Skookum1 (talk) 21:36, 20 April 2008 (UTC)