Talk:Demogorgon (Dungeons & Dragons)

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[edit] Heads

Im a little confused as to what his heads really are. In the picture, the heads are clearly Mandrill heads, yet they are called baboon heads. Is that an artist error? Or the creators? And another thing, is it confirmed that his heads are "baboon" heads? or is that just what it said in the magazine. Because the other legend of the heyena heads could be true still...

See the baboon WP article: "In modern scientific use, only members of the genus Papio are called baboons, but previously the closely related Gelada (genus Theropithecus) and two species of Mandrill and Drill (genus Mandrillus) were grouped in the same genus, and these monkeys are still often referred to as baboons in everyday speech."--Robbstrd 21:18, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

In the original Monster Manual Demogorgon has Heyena heads and he is worshiped by Gnolls who also have have Heyena like heads. The baboon heads must be a new revision of the character. TLH —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.211.52.55 (talk) 03:46, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

In the original MM (this edition) Demogorgon had baboon heads. He was not worshipped by gnolls; Yeenoghu was the demon lord of gnolls in the original MM. --Muchness (talk) 17:29, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Demogorgon.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 20:05, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of reference

In this diff, a reference was removed per WP:EL because it was a forum link. However, WP:EL doesn't apply to references, it only applies to external links used in "External links" sections (from the guideline: "The subject of this guideline is external links that are not citations of article sources ... Guidelines for sourcing, which includes external links used as citations, are discussed at Wikipedia:Reliable sources and Wikipedia:Citing sources"). The relevant policy regarding forum posts used as references is WP:SPS, which states, "Self-published material may, in some circumstances, be acceptable when produced by an established expert on the topic of the article whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications."

In my opinion, a case can be made that the use of this forum post is appropriate as a reference per WP policy, since a) the referenced self-published source is being used to substantiate a claim about a book, b) the self-published source was written by the book's author, and c) the author in question, Monte Cook, is an established expert in the field of D&D. --Muchness (talk) 17:29, 22 March 2008 (UTC)