Talk:Democratic globalization

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[edit] Requested move

Both are equivalent neologisms, but Mundialisation is the correct term (Democratic globalization is simply a neologistic synthesis of common words).

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[edit] Discussion

The neologism "mundialization" is a bit unfortunate because this term seems to have been inspired from the French word mondialisation. However, this French word simply means "globalization", nothing more or less. So those who coined this neologism from the French have intentionally created a linguistic false friend, whereby "mundialization" doesn't mean the same thing as its cognate etymological source. -- Curps 02:55, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

That may be, but, as was previously mentioned, the Wikipedia is a secondary source. We're responsible for echoing the world's knowledge, not modifying it to make it better. Regardless, I've realised that a merge may be more appropriate; should I remove it from the RfM? // Pathoschild 13:41, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
It was merely an observation on my part, not an argument against the move. If a merge is done, which title would be the merged article and which would be the redirect to it? If the existing title (corresponding to this talk page), then I guess the WP:RM listing becomes superfluous. On the other hand if the issue is likely to arise again in the future, it might be useful to try to see if there's any feedback from someone else. -- Curps 07:19, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Descision

For various reasons (including the article already exists!), there seems to be a lack of consensus for moving the page. Ryan Norton T | @ | C 11:49, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Background

[edit] "mundialization"

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"Mundialization" is not an English word, I moved the article back. -- Curps 22:26, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Mundialization is a term coined as a more democratic form of globalization; see a google search. It's a reasonably popular world movement, and as such should be considered a valid word even if it hasn't made it to the paper encyclopedias. However, I'm not the advocate of the change; I just moved it for the unregistered contributor who is. I'll refer him to you, if he wishes to discuss the move. // Pathoschild 22:40, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
It seems to be a neologism with limited use. In general, Wikipedia's policy is to use common names, and it's not Wikipedia's job to promote or popularize neologisms... first they have to catch on in the world on their own, and only then Wikipedia takes note of that fact (that is, as an encycopedia, Wikipedia is a secondary source and not a primary source). I suppose you could list it at Wikipedia:Requested moves and gather feedback. -- Curps 00:54, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
Neither term is very common. Mundialization is simply the neologism for "Democratic globalization". If you compare, you'll find that the former has 952 results and the latter has 883 results. "Democratic globalization" is, as far as I can tell, simply the synthesis of common words to mean the same thing. // Pathoschild 01:19, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
Well, your move was actually from "Democratic globalization" to "Democratic mundialization", rather than to just "Mundialization". So it appeared that you were simply using "mundialization" as a synonym for "globalization", and that would fail the "use common names" test since the latter is much more common than the former.
If you now wish to move "Democratic globalization" to just "Mundialization", well, I suppose Wikipedia:Requested moves might be a suitable place to gather feedback (you add a one-line listing there for the proposed change, which links back to the discussion page at Talk:Democratic globalization where the actual discussion of the proposed move takes place. See some of the other pages there for examples). -- Curps 01:39, 3 October 2005 (UTC)