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Hi, which version of Tian Long Ba Bu is this entry about? I read the 2nd version. The descriptions for several characters are wrong if the entry is for the 2nd version.

Contents 1 You Tanzhi was hardly noble 2 The Four Evil Ones were not ranked by age. 3 The morale of the book 4 Technical discussions 5 Someone's been watching too much TV

[edit] You Tanzhi was hardly noble

You might be selfless, but he was hardly noble. His love for A Zi was quite obsessive, not unlike Duan Yu's love for Wang Yuyan. However, unlike Duan Yu, he wouldn't hesitate killing innocent people just to please his lover.

Agreed. If there's no major objections I'll change that.--Alexio 02:10, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

done--Alexio 03:47, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Four Evil Ones were not ranked by age.

They were ranked by their powers. Yue Lao San never thought he was older than Ye Er Niang. Rather, he believed that he was more powerful than her, so he should have been ranked second rather than third.

[edit] The morale of the book

This book marked a big leap of morality comparing to Jing Yong's earlier books (and other traditional WuXia novels), e.g. The Legend of the Condor Heroes. While the earlier book drew a clear line between ethnic groups (the Hero sacrificed himself for Han against foreign invaders, which is considered highest level of Xia 侠之大者, 为国为民), the line was much blurred in this book. Xiao Feng was of ethnic Qidan (considered barbarians by Hans). Other Hans could not tolerate him (非我族类, 其心必异. He is not of our ethnic group, thus he would betray us sooner or later), yet he could not bring himself to destroy the people who raised him. In the end, he died because he didn't belong anywhere. Interestingly enough, Jin Yong went back and modified an earlier book Sword Stained with Royal Blood with similar ideas. When the hero tried to assassinate the enemy Emperor, he overheard that the Emperor would treat the people kindly if he conquered China.

[edit] Technical discussions

Should there be separate sections for the adventures of Duan Yu, Qiao Feng and Xu Zhu, seeing that they played an equally-important role in the development of the story? I know it will be an arduous task, but to make this article complete, it should be done.--Alexio 15:10, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Someone's been watching too much TV

Things like Duan Yu killing the 4th evil guy, Sweeper Monk being uberpowerful, etc are all from the movies, not the book. (The 4th evil guy saved Wang Yuyan's life once, and the sweeper monk vomited blood after being hit by Xiao Feng.) -- Миборовский 00:30, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

I took out the reference to Yun Zhong He being killed by Duan Yu. He would have left the stage after Duan Yanqing killed Yue Lao San.--Alexio 03:29, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Yun Zhong He does not save Duan Yu in the book, it is Yue Lao San who frequently does it. And while the sweeper monk does vomit blood when hit by Xiao Feng, his immense power is still shown by absorbing Mu Rong Fu and Xiao Feng's attack by simply closing his palms together. The reference of him vomitting blood is perhaps the author's hint to let the reader know that the monk is no god or buddha of any kind. J.S.Lucindy (talk) 23:06, 24 March 2008 (UTC)