Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2008 May 9

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Raxivort (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (restore|cache|AfD)

This article was apparently speedy deleted in March 2007. I don't know what was on it previously, but I was wondering if it could be restored. If it can be shaped into a reasonable article, I would like to do so, otherwise I could just merge the text that's there and redirect into List of Greyhawk deities or somewhere else appropriate. I did not contact the deleting admin, because they seem to be no longer an active editor? BOZ (talk) 18:26, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

• Merge to that list looks plausible. The deletion was for lack of meaningful content, so unless you have sources for expansion, that is all that really can happen. For comparison, the full content of this approximates the intro paragraph and references sections of Semuanya or Skerrit. GRBerry 19:16, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

That might be good enough for a start, and I could probably add to it. BOZ (talk) 19:22, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

• List. Best way to deal with a contested speedy. 69.140.152.55 (talk) 18:23, 12 May 2008 (UTC) Endorse delete because of possible copyright issues. 69.140.152.55 (talk) 22:03, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Allright then, I've lost all my support.  :) As long as there are no issues with doing so, I'll start working on a copyvio free version, probably tomorrow. BOZ (talk) 22:06, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

• Comment - According to the history, content was stubbed because of 'plagiarism' but neither lack of context (CSD A1) nor lack of content (CSD A3) seem to be applicable here. --Tikiwont (talk) 09:33, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Given that issue, we shouldn't restore history, that is essentially a copyright concern. What we can do give BOZ the sources that were in the deleted article, and let him read them, add content to the list, and create the redirect. GRBerry 15:04, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Was it actually a copyvio though? BOZ (talk) 15:10, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

None of the sources had url links, all appear to be printed sources. None I still own (though at least one I did years ago) So I can't call it blatant proven copyvio eligible for speedy deletion on that basis, but I do strongly suspect it of being a copyvio. The text removed in the relevant diff just feels like it was copied from some of the sources that were used. GRBerry 15:16, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, if that really is the case, and worse comes to worse I can just recreate it as a stub, or just as a redirect to the list; it's not a big deal either way. :) BOZ (talk) 15:31, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Parish (Band) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (restore|cache|AfD)

Deleted again after notability asserted and AfD vote to keep! As per WP:MUSIC#6, I believe notability is asserted. Two members of said group are current and founding members of Crimson Glory, a band whom themselves are at least notable as per WP:MUSIC#5 (Two album released on a major or more important indie label - they released two albums on Roadrunner Records) and WP:MUSIC#12 (Has been the subject of a half hour or longer broadcast across a national radio or TV network - they had a full two-hour concert broadcast across America on Z ROCK Radio from the Manatee Civic Center on Sept. 2, 1989). They could quite possibly meet others, including #3 and #4 as well... 6wolf2112 (talk) 04:18, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

• Overturn. You should have given Stifle a chance to restore it first, but this is a pretty clearly incorrect use of speedy given the immediately recent passage of AFD. I'm increasingly uncertain of the value of WP:MUSIC#6, personally -- it's basically a claim of transferable or inherited notability -- but it is in the guideline for now. At worst, this article needs {{unreferenced}}. --Dhartung | Talk 04:43, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
• Overturn. Whether the article meets WP:MUSIC#6 or not, having just passed an AfD seems good enough to require something more than a speedy. Olaf Davis | Talk 08:24, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
• Didn't see that AFD keep. However, what part of "Before listing a review request, attempt to discuss the matter with the admin who deleted the page" didn't register? Stifle (talk) 08:52, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

ARTICLE_NAME (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (restore|cache|AfD)

UNDELETE_REASON My name is Frank Bentner and I work at the University of Alaska-Fairbanks. Our University does what little research there is out there on First Nations Alaka Natives and we view our work as important. There is a researcher/published author named Ernest Sipes who is being quoted often at UAF and in academic journals and he is doing a lot of new research on First Nations Peoples. I put a page on him at Wikipedia but it was removed and I don't know why. I read all the causes for deletion and I redid the page but it was removed again yesterday. Can you please review the new page on Ernest Sipes and reinstate it? The new page contain bio info and is somewhat longer than the original page. Thank you, Frank Bentner P.O. Box 3247, University Avenue, Fairbanks, Alaska 99707 Tele. (907)458-8510 e-mail: frank_bentner@hotmail.com

• Comment You've already recreated Ernest Sipes so at the moment there is no deletion to challenge. If you want the page to stay I suggest you read WP:BIO#Academics and WP:MOSBIO as starting points to understanding what you need in an academic biographical article. --Dhartung | Talk 04:47, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
• Comment I think Dhartung means Wikipedia:Notability (academics). Note the requirement for independent, third-party sources establishing notability. Good luck improving the article. Olaf Davis | Talk 08:27, 9 May 2008 (UTC)