Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2008 April 15

Banderlog (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (restore|cache|AfD)

Hello! :) In March, this article was nominated for deletion. At the time, there was no suitable page for this article to be redirected to, so based on the consensus, Nandesuka deleted the article. I have created a new page, List of Advanced Dungeons & Dragons 1st edition monsters, which would be a proper destination to merge and/or redirect the article to. I'm wondering if it's possible to restore the original article, and turn it into a redirect, thus preserving the edit history? Thanks!  :)

I would ask the deleting admin directly, but it seems they are on an extended wikibreak. BOZ (talk) 00:39, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

• History merge. I've gone ahead and just created the redirect, but a history merge for GFDL's sake would still be good. --lifebaka (Talk - Contribs) 11:08, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

  Thank you - yes, could someone restore the history to Banderlog please? :) BOZ (talk) 11:36, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

  Y Done Stifle (talk) 11:50, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Gracias.  :) BOZ (talk) 12:22, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

WikiJob (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (restore|cache|AfD)

Article has been cleaned up, opinion removed, references supplied following previous deletion. Redsuperted (talk) 11:41, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Following an earlier deletion I re-wrote this article about the website WikiJob. I included sources and took out speculation and inappropriate content. However, some was left in and I have now taken this out - the article should read more objectively, and I have used references to back up my information. The "mentions in the press" section can be taken out or made in to further references - what do people think of these sections? Are they allowed?

Further to this, when this article was deleted links to WikiJob.co.uk were blacklisted - please could this blacklisting be removed? -- Redsuperted (talk) 11:41, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

• Endorse deletion. I am sure Redsuperted has a COI (to put it mildly). Wait until an independent person writes the site up. -- RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 11:55, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Hi - Yes I do have a certain level of COI BUT - please check here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redsuperted/sandbox for a new version of this article without previous subjective opinion. Redsuperted (talk) 11:14, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
• Endorse deletion. Spam article on site that was spammed and is now blacklisted. Guy (Help!) 06:36, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Hi JzG..this isn't a spam article and I find that reasonably derogatory considering the time and effort I spent editing this and re-editing this to attempt to make sure it conformed to Wikipedia rules and guidelines. Yes, it may have been "spammy" to start with, but I am a new member of wikipedia and at first, was unsure of how articles were made. I did not intend to simply SPAM wikipedia, but to make an article about the website WikiJob. This is a web/magazine that receives 30,000 uniques a month and I feel it has a place on Wikipedia.
• Furthermore WikiJob is only lacklisted because YOU blacklisted it, so to endorse deletion based on your own blacklisting....isn't that just plain ridiculous? ? ? please re-examine my sandow page here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redsuperted/sandbox Redsuperted (talk) 11:14, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Reviewed and re-edited WikiJob page

• Please see edited and updated version here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redsuperted/sandbox - I have taken out all subjectivity and opinion and left only fact. I do have a COI to this, but honestly, what is in my sandbox is not subjective. If you find it so, please suggest how I can changes things for the better. Redsuperted (talk) 11:14, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

• Sure, you think it's not spam, but clearly you are not objective. Guy (Help!) 13:08, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

• • You say that, but why specifically?Redsuperted (talk) 10:15, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
• Endorse per Guy If you have a COI then leave it for some other editor to write the article. Real world sourcing (i.e published media) is lacking as well. Spartaz ^Humbug! 12:12, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Just so you know, I deleted the logo since it was unsourced and clearly had to be a copyvio and was only being used in userspace against our non free content criteria. If the article does get restored you can reupload the image but must make sure that you comply with the criteria if its not to get deleted again. Spartaz ^Humbug! 12:16, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
• Endorse per above and Sandbox page. The fact that it's not notable is going to make anything written by someone with a conflict of interest come off as blatant advertising. --Smashville^BONK! 20:27, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
• ....but if you read the article, it's not blatant advertising. Read the sandbox, there is no advertorial there. Perhaps you could read the article before judging the article!! :) Redsuperted (talk) 23:07, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

• I did read the sandbox. Hence, "Endorse per...Sandbox page". Not to mention that your entire - ENTIRE - edit history has consisted of adding links to this site to articles or making edits related to adding links to this site. That is just simply not a good conflict of interest. --Smashville^BONK! 23:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

• Endorse per sandbox at User:Redsuperted/sandbox. No independent sourcing. Lawrence Cohen § t/e 21:52, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
• Endorse deletion per all above. Stifle (talk) 11:51, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
• Endorse per Guy - if you have a conflict of interest you should wait for someone else to write the article. Hut 8.5 09:38, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

• • If people feel that my conflict of interest means that this - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redsuperted/sandbox - is not acceptable, could anyone actually just look at - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Redsuperted/sandbox - and make the necessary edits to make it acceptable and then publish the article? Would this not be the simplest/easiest thing for everyone. ? Redsuperted (talk) 10:15, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
• endorse deletion Aside from the COI issue (which could be easily handled by having other editors examine the article and keep track of it beyond the initial recreation) none of the sources are non-trivial. They are all passing mentions. This doesn't appear to meet notability. It might in the future but at this point I'm not seeing it. JoshuaZ (talk) 15:47, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Guernsey Live (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (restore|cache|AfD)

The AfD debate's final outcome was the article in question lacked sources for the event to be checked. From the outcome of this debate I wrote an article improving what my friend had written so hopefully it would remain. Thus since, it has been deleted for advertising. Please see my talk page User:Dead6re for what the article was like the last time. Dead6re (talk) 07:43, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

• Endorse deletion. Other AfD contributors were satisfied with the sources but still questioned the notability. It's awfully hard luck having your top act (Pete Doherty) banged up! And sadly this makes the event less likely to succeed. You are not allowed to use Wikipedia for advertising - OK, Dead6re, I don't think you have any COI. But just be patient, son, it's only a fortnight to go. Let the event happen, let's see how many people turn up and, more importantly, what the media think about it and then we might reconsider. -- RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 08:31, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
• Comment Okay its bad luck to have out Sunday headliner put in jail but I think the organiser Warren Holt on behalf of Positiv Productions is doing well. He managed to get another headliner (The Enemy) within 7 days. Perhaps it doesn't look the best but the organiser is committed to the event and I highly doubt the event will be cancelled again for the second time. Dead6re (talk) 09:03, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
• Endorse Deletion Non-notable at the present time, Wikipedia is not an advertisement source. Mister Senseless™ (Speak - Contributions) 11:27, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
• Comment If this was advertising, it would be written in a much different form. I feel this means you have not looked at the updated article as I would agree with the previous versions. Our local newspaper did mention ticket sales after the first day and I wish I get the article that mentioned it. Dead6re (talk) 17:11, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
  • No, I did look at it. The subject still isn't notable yet. Mister Senseless™ (Speak - Contributions) 14:27, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
• Endorse deletion, the creator Markhi90 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) does not inspire confidence and neither does the content. Guy (Help!) 14:38, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Chris Frangou (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (restore|cache|AfD)

The page "Chris Frangou" is unable to be created due to previous deletions on the basis that it it not notable. I disagree with this statement and i would like it to be reviewed. Chris Frangou is a notable Australian musician and he meets Wikipedia's criteria of notability.--Chrisjazzbass (talk) 06:59, 15 April 2008 (UTC) Chrisjazzbass

• No offense intended, but if you don't prove it to us we can't help you. Could you please provide links to reliable sources that show that thie guy is truly notable? --lifebaka (Talk - Contribs) 22:47, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
• Comment User:Chrisjazzbass is an admitted sockpuppet of indefinetely blocked User:Chris funk bass, an enthusiastic SPA and sock-puppeteer and most likely Chris Frangou himself. I would suggest an early close but my dealings with Chris could be seen to have affected my objectivity. -- Mattinbgn\^talk 04:45, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
• Endorse deletion and salting and, if necessary, trout-slapping. Wikipedia is not a venue for self-promotion. Guy (Help!) 14:39, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
• Endorse deletion per Lifebaka. The editor requesting undeletion hasn't offered any new sources here. EdJohnston (talk) 15:34, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
• endorse deletion I searched for new sources and was unable to find anything significant. The editor here has not supplied anything for us to even look at. Give us sources and then we can examine it. JoshuaZ (talk) 01:03, 18 April 2008 (UTC)