Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2007 December 26

Butt Trumpet (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (restore|cache|AfD)

Deleted as part of the AfD for Felony Records. This group enjoyed brief nationwide success in the U.S. in the 1990s, and the page cited several independent sources (as always, I can go get more if you'd like). I would like to ask that the deletion for this page be overturned and the Butt Trumpet page be restored (editorial option to AfD it individually, if you'd prefer). Chubbles (talk) 00:40, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

• Overturn and restore per nom. I don't remember this page having any independent sources, but I'm assuming good faith on the nominator's part here. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 03:28, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

The page had links to writeups from All Music Guide and Trouser Press. There's more out there; they were controversial, and got news coverage for upsetting grandmothers. Also, I should note that the page didn't have an AfD notice on it even though it was named in the Felony Records AfD. Chubbles (talk) 03:31, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

• Overturn and Keep Slightly borderline, but notable enough. A Google News search shows a number of solid sources, with the first two being the LA Times. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 04:36, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
• Overturn and relist. The presence of sources specific to this band doesn't appear to have been fully considered in the group AfD. Eluchil404 (talk) 05:02, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
• Overturn The failure to ever tag the article is a significant flaw, sufficient in and of itself to make the AFD be invalid for deleting this article. Fortunately, the other band articles were tagged. GRBerry 21:18, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
• I've gone ahead and overturned it. east.718 at 01:49, December 28, 2007

1208 (band) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (restore|cache|AfD)

Deleted as part of the AfD for Felony Records. I would like to have this page undeleted because their Allmusic page, which has a biography, also notes that the group released two albums on Epitaph Records, a highly notable label; their albums have been reviewed profusely, as well (Allmusic's reviews are really quite complimentary). I will fix up the page with refs and such, as always. Chubbles (talk) 00:40, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

• Overturn and keep per Chubbles, this band indeed appears to be notable by having two albums on a major label and a significant All Music bio. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 03:25, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
• Overturn - two albums on Epitaph meets criteria #5 of WP:MUSIC -Halo (talk) 08:46, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Kaltura (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (restore|cache|AfD)

I am trying to get an article about– Kaltura, Inc – included in Wikipedia, but have run into difficulty, and I’m not sure why my article is being deleted, and is now protected and cannot be created at all.

<article spam removed -- Kesh (talk) >

Based on the information above, I would like to recreate the article for Kaltura. Please advise how I can go about moving this process along. I am happy to discuss this further and provide any additional information that might be required.

Thank you in advance for your consideration and support.

List of links including Kaltura widgets:

Representative Music Widgets (Band / Musician Pages) http://www.myspace.com/nedamusic http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendi d=102160587 http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendi d=2366356 http://www.myspace.com/mudvayne http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendi d=175360344 http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendi d=57271723 http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendi d=190878368 http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendi d=125849413

Representative Music Widgets (Fan Pages) http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendi d=198243168 http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendi d=200315805 http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendi d=192536809

Representative Widgets (Blog Pages) http://heehawmarketing.typepad.com/hee_haw_marketing/2007/11/eat-sleep-b log-.html http://servantofchaos.typepad.com/soc/2007/11/i-really-am-goi.html http://www.craphammer.ca/2007/10/eat-sleep-blog-.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lishkee (talk • contribs)

Do you have any reliable sources that can help establish notability? That is the main criteria. The links you have posted are MySpace pages and blogs for the most part...here's a hint: if anyone can put down anything they want, it's probably not reliable as a source (yes, that does include Wikipeida. Ironic, no?) Newspaper articles (not press releases), magazine articles, business web sites, a book about the company by an objective author...those are the things you need.

In addition, you need to make sure the article isn't blatant advertising for the company, but actually about the company. Usually, in situations like this, someone makes a draft of the page in their userspace (try here: User:Lishkee/Kaltura), has an admin check it out, and when it's acceptable, it gets moved into normal space. Give that a shot. --UsaSatsui (talk) 16:47, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Note:I didn't start this DRV; the page was broken and I tried to fix it, and it accidentally signed my name automatically. I've no opinion on this matter. Chubbles (talk) 02:41, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

My apologies. I've changed my suggested userspace target appropriately (and signed the nom's comment as well) --UsaSatsui (talk) 07:18, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

• Endorse all deletions and salting. Editors are continuously creating bad versions of this article. AfD easily snowballed as delete, and the versions after that could have been deleted by WP:CSD#G4. Salting was necessary to prevent further abuse of the article name. --lifebaka (Talk - Contribs) 21:11, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
• Endorse all per Lifebaka, myspace does not confer notability. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 17:22, 29 December 2007 (UTC)