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[edit] interesting article

http://abc.net.au/time/episodes/ep6.htm
could it be usefull to expand mitsubishi australia article?
cheers...--MitsuFreak 19:46, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

That's a pretty good find. I'll add it as an external link just now, so that we (or anyone else) can use it when they have time. The MMAL article could do with some work... --DeLarge 22:06, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I need your input, again

Hi DeLarge, tell me what you think about my S-AWC sandbox article?

is there any way to get a bot to wikilink the page? --MitsuFreak 18:22, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Looks OK, although I don't know of a wikilink adding bot. I'll go through it myself and see what I can manage. --DeLarge 10:28, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What happened?

[1] "Arrrrgh - edit conflict! Lost 90 minutes' worth of expansion. Tried to restore as best I could.."?

hehe :-D MitsuFreak 12:44, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

No edits on that page for three months, then two edits at the same time!
It was very careless of me: after the rewrite I got the "edit conflict" message. I had too many browser tabs open, and closed the wrong one while I was trying to clean my screens up. Lost everything I'd written with one click. I'd been using exactly the same source document as you'd added as a reference as well. Very spooky co-incidences. --DeLarge
lol, you are using firefox, right? did you try "undo close tab"? --MitsuFreak 13:12, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
What?!? Argh!! Yes and no! CTRL+SHIFT+T... You learn something new every day. Well, I guess I won't be making that mistake again. God, I don't know if that makes it even worse... (bonks head on table in frustration). --DeLarge 13:20, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
hahaha, relax, it happens, so what did you do for 90 min? lol, we already talked about this once, there is another member of 3b2 family, a 1 liter 999cc that the new smart fortwo uses. (see above) But when you calculated the bore/stroke ratio you foung out that it doesnt match. I found many sources and they all say the engine has 72 x 81.8 mm ratio, [2]but i just cannot find the engine code. Why is mitsubishi and chrysler hiding it? I've searched for 2 days. It's getting ridiculous. But i will get to the bottom of it. :)--MitsuFreak 13:31, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
sorry about this lol [3], what the hell was i thinking!, i'm still laughing about your comment, hehe, about the 1 liter engine, check this out [4], cheers....--MitsuFreak 13:03, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

(indent reset) I'm getting lots of confirmation that it's indeed a 72 x 81.8 mm bore/stroke, so it's definitely based off whatever the 2003 i-Concept had: [5], [6], [7]. So, if we assume it's one of the new designs, is it derived from the 3B20 or the 3A91? 'Tis a mystery, but we'll figure it out. --DeLarge 13:58, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] check your e-mail

let me know what you think, also can you archive this page, it's getting to long and to big, have to wait a few seconds to open it....cheers--MitsuFreak 11:07, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

47k. Hmm, yeah, that's chunky. I'll do that first, then reply to your e-mail. --DeLarge 18:29, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
hey, why did you stop expanding the Mitsubishi i article, currently it's 21kb big? It's rated as a good article. But one of the reasons you didn't strive to make it a featured article is because of it's size (or should i say text length. But there are numerous technical papers on i on mitsubishi's website, plus the stuff that i sent you (i'm sending you more in a few minutes). You could expand it to 32 kb (recommended max size), mostly of text data? Making mitsubishi "i" the first Mitsubishi Motors related feature statused (whatever) article? tell me what you think, i'll be sending you a lot of files in the next few days, stuff thats very hard to find, you'll see. cheers--MitsuFreak 20:00, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
You're spooky. Last weekend, you edited the same article as me, using the same sources as me, at the same time as me. Now you ask about Mitsubishi i... In my e-mail a few hours ago I wrote a paragraph about pushing it towards an FA nomination, but chose to delete it before I sent it to you. Eeek, you're in my head!
From peer review to GA promotion took almost two months (see Talk:Mitsubishi i), and I wasn't 100% happy about some of the changes I had to make. When it was finally, abruptly promoted, I just decided to take a break from the page for a while. I wanted to wait until after the annual sales were reported, and after the UK launch, so that the article wouldn't be at risk of big changes in the middle of an FA nomination. But since then I've just lost a bit of momentum -- I should get back to it though, it's probably the best article I've made major contributions to. --DeLarge 22:16, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] uploaded pictures

take a look at the bottom.[8]. I'm thinking of removing the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Grandis_RISE.gif. The whole thing about uploading copyrigted pictures on wikipedia is generating to much controversy. I might never upload a picture again. It's getting ridiculous.--MitsuFreak 11:26, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

I noticed that myself. Personally, I think you'll be OK with Image:Grandis_RISE.gif; the fair use rationale is decent enough, and at the moment the big concern is untagged or unjustified images. Image:Boulay_sup_cabrio.jpg is more doubtful, as WP is strict about fair use claims for living people. Also, on the Mitsubishi SUP page we already have one fair use image in the infobox, so there's reasons to challenge both FU claims.
Still, it won't really be an issue until one of the image patrollers actually complains. And in the meantime, I'll move the RISE image so that it's right next to the section about the Grandis. See if you think that's too detrimental to the page overall. We can't do much more than that, though... --DeLarge 13:53, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
can i upload the logo of s-awc (it's inside those schematics, so i'll have to cut it out). Would that qualify for fair use? Also did you receive the mitsubishi i presspack i sent you yesterday, could it be usefull?--MitsuFreak 14:18, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
I think the logo is OK. There's a specific logo tag you can select, which assumes fair use for a page about the subject of the logo (S-AWC); we have such a page, so it's OK. Shouldn't be different from MIEV, where I've put the logo in. The only limitation is size: because we only ever show the logo at about 200-250px maximum, we don't need an image bigger than that. Even if you can get a higher rez version, I'd reduce it in size before uploading. --DeLarge 15:40, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
i've uploaded it Image:S-AWC_logo.jpg, if you think it's too big then reduce it, but this logo is even bigger and no one is complaining Image:Mitsubishi Motors.png, same here Image:Ralliart.JPG---MitsuFreak 16:08, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
Nahh, that's OK, and it looks fine in the article. "Too big" is the version of Image:Mitsubishi Motors.png which I had to revert.[9] (and the version before that was 4x bigger...) --DeLarge 10:14, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] you know the drill

User:Mitsufreak/Mitsubishi_AWC. Needs wikilinks, slightly more neutral, do you think i'm overdoing it with applications, check out outlander's AWC system, i think so...Your suggestion edits are apreciated...--MitsuFreak 14:58, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Reply by e-mail. --DeLarge 16:35, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
thank you, [10], [11]---MitsuFreak 22:02, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
ok, i finished it, i've toned it down, made copyedits...can you check it for the last time, it's needs wikilinks in the pajero and evo ix awc system section, already found the awc logo, i'll add it after i move it...another barnstar for you, thank you DeLarge ---MitsuFreak 11:33, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
oh yea, i need to ask a mod to move it for me, the Mitsubishi AWC already has past edits...what tag should i use and how? help me out....--MitsuFreak 11:45, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Put {{db-move}} on the page, and say in your edit summary "making room for page move from [[User:Mitsufreak/Mitsubishi AWC]]". An admin will delete the old page within a day or so, and then you can move the new one. --DeLarge 15:08, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

ok moved it, will add the awc logo tommorow, the article still needs wikilinks, need to decide which barnstar to give you, talk to you tommorow.....cheers and thanks again---MitsuFreak 20:22, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Evo7grille.jpg's original source

If you've cropped an image of a LANCER EVO 7 into the image "Evo7grille", can you upload the original photo for me please? I'll save it to my computer if you do. 172.141.28.96 16:37, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spawn of a previous Mitsubishi AfD

I've nominated List of Mitsubishi GTO appearances in media due to the fact that it appears to be spawned from the AfD for Mitsubishi vehicles in media I'm gonna be away from my computer for a few days on a business trip, can you please keep tabs on this in my place? --293.xx.xxx.xx 09:37, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Nevermind, it got deleted when I was typing this message for you. Apologies. --293.xx.xxx.xx 09:38, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GTO content question?

Would a link to a technical resource page on the gto/3000gt/stealth be appropriate for the reference section? --alan92rttt@3si.org (talk) 23:44, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

If you're meaning this or similar, no. The only links in the references section should be those supporting specific claims in the main text, and as a result they have to be from reliable sources. Whether or not 3si.org is comprehensive is irrelevent, as it's a self-published resource. It could be in the External Links, except that historically there's such heavy spamming on Mitsubishi GTO that the {{DMOZ}} template is obviously the best way to go. That should be sufficient, since 3Si.org seems to be the first DMOZ link anyway. Beyond that WP can't and shouldn't be trying to direct people to specific websites, since that involves a subjective judgement over which websites are better than others. WP isn't a a repository of links.
Also, WP's not supposed to be the most complete resource on any given topic, because there's a difference between encyclopedic and comprehensive. We can't include the big blurb of text from the Japanese Supercars book because it's a copyvio. We can't include the recall notice information because WP is not an instruction manual, guidebook or textbook. We can't include info on the transmission reliability rumour because it isn't discussed outside of fan forums, which are not reliable sources. All of these things can and are included on 3Si.org's wiki. WP serves only to pubish articles containing encyclopedic info, and if people want or need more than that, they can jump onto Google and search for alternative sites like yours. Regards, --DeLarge (talk) 14:26, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Who is DeLarge?

Who are you? Are you an employee or some other kind of official associate of Wikipedia? I notice that you seem to go around deleting and reverting other users posts as if you own the place. I think an explanation would be in order. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.233.195.56 (talk • contribs) 15:03, 30 November 2007

Something tells me you're not entirely clued up on how WP operates...
Lots of stuff I don't delete. That which violates the guidelines and policies of Wikipedia, on the other hand, is fair game for purging. If you're going to drop the names and/or websites of five companies into an article (i.e. this edit), don't be surprised when a passing editor reverts you. WP:SPAM is enforced here. Regards, --DeLarge 20:19, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

I checked your own user history. You can hardly describe yourself as a "passing editor". More like you are hovering over the entire Mitsubishi content with X-ray eyes, 24 hour vigilance, and an iron fist. Since I actually own a Galant Sapporo and you in all statistacal probability don't, by WP's rules, I am more likely the more interested party, not considering anal retentive, obsessive possessiveness. What do you have, some kind of pop-up bot that alerts you the second anyone makes an edit to any article?

"the article is a shared work based on the contributions of many people and one editor should not be singled out above others." signed, An Interested Sapporo Owner. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.233.195.56 (talk • contribs) 23:59, 30 November 2007

  • You can hardly describe yourself as a "passing editor". "Passing editor" ≠ "editor with few contributions".
  • Since I actually own a Galant Sapporo and you in all statistacal (sic) probability don't, by WP's rules, I am more likely the more interested party... Ahh, no. Actually it's the other way round. See WP:Conflict of interest and WP:Neutral point of view. You can even throw in WP:No original research, if you're going to try and write content based on personal experience rather than citing external sources.
  • ...not considering anal retentive, obsessive possessiveness. For this I'd direct you to WP:Civility.
Back at you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.233.195.56 (talk • contribs) 20:33, 1 December 2007
  • What do you have, some kind of pop-up bot that alerts you the second anyone makes an edit to any article? I have a Watchlist, as do all registered users.
  • "...one editor should not be singled out above others". WP:Signature? So many more appropriate guidelines you could have referenced than that one. I made edits based on the quality of the contributions, not the editor. You, on the other hand, came to this page and made statements to the effect that I should not edit the article on the basis that you know better than me. "O wad some po'er gift tae gie us, tae see oursel's as aithers see us." Regards, --DeLarge 09:45, 1 December 2007 (UTC)