Talk:Deliberative democracy
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I do not think vote is an effective means in deliberative democracy. As the author of the entry said, deliberative democracy addresses the interests of minor and marginal groups, whose voices are very likely to be flooded in a vote. A vote is a system in which only the majority's interest is addressed. Many argue that it is not really democratic.
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[edit] Section headings
I added some section headings to break up the text. Note that I phrased them to describe the contents, not as I think they should be, and others can alter them as the article is improved. For instance, "Cohen's outline" was the best I could come up with for that chunk, since it isn't clear how much agreement other deliberative theorists would have with this, etc. This whole section could use some work so that it reads more smoothly, defines or references some of the jargon used, etc. Currently it reads like a series of outline notes, and isn't always clear to some readers (or at least to me). David Oberst 03:17, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
- I second that about the jargon and lack of clarity here. For an encyclopedic article at least, it should be more clear to the average non-initiated reader. Brettz9 19:22, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] needs a lot of work
this entry needs a lot of work, especially clarifying the strands of deliberative democracy and various justifications (epistemic, autonomy-based, transformative), and contrasts with various aggregative conceptions of democracy. Also, some distinction is needed between arguments about the ideal of DD and specific proposals for more deliberative institutions and practices. I'll try to get to this over the next week or so. --Lorenking 20:23, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Issues dealing with Social Choice
The weakness of DD related to Social Choice needs improvement. In particular, the supposed problem posed by Arrow's theorem is not explained, and not reference to that problem is provided. There is nothing on Arrow's theorem relevant here, since it deals with properties of voting systems (and thus these issues are common to any democracy theory that uses voting).
In fact, the impossibility is rather theoretic: Condorcet voting method satisfies these properties if we weaken one: that we allow that the final outcome can be non-unique (a tie). There are methods to deal with Condorcet voting method issue of "circular ties", see Condorcet_method#Circular_ambiguities.
Also, the link http://personal.lse.ac.uk/list/ does lead to a person web-page and not to the resource that argues for Arrow's theorem non-relevance to DD. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Enric (talk • contribs) 10:11, 28 March 2007 (UTC).
[edit] Debatepedia.org] external link ok?
Is it ok to add an external link to Debatepedia.org on this article. Debatepedia describes itself as a deliberative, democratic tool. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.198.42.113 (talk) 02:14, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- It's not really appropriate. Wikipedia's external links sections aren't for resources with a connection to the subject, they are for links to pages with further encyclopedic information about the subject. -- SiobhanHansa 02:04, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
