Talk:Delhi Mass Rapid Transit System

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[edit] Lines under construction

203.187.237.153, I have reverted your change. The official website says this line is not yet fully complete. Please provide reference otherwise. - Ganeshk 21:25, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

The line is actually complete, and trains have been running (sans passengers) for a while. Formal inauguration was supposed to happen today ([1]). Does anyone know if it really happened? deeptrivia (talk) 22:38, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
Oh yeah, it was indeed inaugurated today: [2]. Shifting to "completed" category. deeptrivia (talk) 22:40, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

There were supposed to be two phases of the metro. I think, with the completion of line 3, the Phase I is over, and the phase II has started (to be completed by 2010 commonwealth games). These details can be mentioned. deeptrivia (talk) 22:44, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Permission to use images

I got this response from Ashish Vashisht:

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I'll write to the webmaster, and then I guess we can use all those images. deeptrivia (talk) 04:38, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Permission to use images by Ashish Vashisht from IRFCA website

We now have permission to use any photos taken by Ashish Vashisht that are on IRFCA's website under Creative Commons Attribution. I confirmed this with both Ashish and the IRFCA webmaster, who added:

"It would be appreciated if you acknowledge the photographs as being from Ashish Vashisht. A pointer to IRFCA would also be appreciated. Please check with me before using any other material (photographs or otherwise) from IRFCA."

I think there are lots of nice photos to be used on the Delhi Metro and related articles that can be picked up from there. deeptrivia (talk) 15:16, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Line colors

Hello Ashish, According to the IRFCA website, Line 2 is the 'Blue Line' and Line 3 is 'Yellow line'. I am quoting a few lines from that page,

"Construction on the underground Line 2 (the 'Blue Line') was at an advanced stage by [1/03]. Both..."

"Line 3 (the 'Yellow Line') running Indraprastha - Barakhamba Road - Dwarka - Dwarka Sub City was recently [2003] approved by the Central and State governments."

Is the website wrong? - Ganeshk 01:36, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes. Signage on the Metro itself is definitely the other way around. Jpatokal 10:10, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Correct colours for the various Delhi Metro lines

Here's the article from the Indian Express which gives the correct colours. This information can also be verified from first person accounts on the Delhi Metro discussion group archives. The info on IRFCA website needs to be corrected.

I believe DMRC is somewhat guilty of creating this number vs. colour confusion. They started out giving numbers for each lines, however after the Line 2 (or Yellow Line) was opened, they changed the lines to have distinct colours instead of numbers. Unfortunately the DMRC website does not provide this information at this point. By the way, as most Delhi residents would know, the private buses in Delhi have also had various colourful names such as Red Line, Blue Line etc. --vashisht 02:44, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

I think the names of line articles should be changed to refer to the colors: this is in accordance with actual signage on the Metro, and it'll save a lot of renaming work when the next extension opens. Red Line (Delhi Metro) would be unambiguous and in line with current practice (see Red Line). Jpatokal 10:07, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
Done. Jpatokal 15:05, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] factual error: second rapid transit system in India?

"It became the second rapid transit system in India, after the one in operation in Kolkata."

says the article. however the second one to open in india was chennai's mass rapid transport system. delhi's is the second underground network to open in india —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 125.16.138.242 (talk) 07:37, 29 December 2006 (UTC).

-- What's a mass transport system then? Even Mumbai's rail network should be considered —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.167.89.156 (talk) 15:38, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] loss making

any notes on the amount of tax payers money that has been burnt to build this monstrosity? 15L is probably what mumbai harbor line carries in half a day!

"The system turned an operational profit from the first day. ", "The 650,000 passengers we carry each day means 40,000 less vehicles on Delhi roads," [3]
The back of my envelope says that if those 40000 vehicles were cars (and considering the number of passengers, more likely buses), the value of this is $200million a year (given than a car costs $5000 a year to run). That's not including the road costs, health costs, air pollution costs etc. Alternatively, we can use $0.5 per passenger mile(the largest amount deductable - actual cost is more like $1.2/pm), assume that the trips are all 2 miles and get $650000 a day in economic value ($237 million a year). The interest on $2.4billion is about $72million (3%), so it's clear to me that this is an economically sensible investment. --Jaded-view (talk) 17:45, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

I blv you are comparing the system with other other forms of transportation. The original post is asking it versus existing mass transit systems. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.227.207.194 (talk) 08:17, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

http://www.merinews.com/catFull.jsp?articleID=173 a good reference. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.227.207.194 (talk) 08:22, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Dubious reference, overhead lines are by no means obsolete, just like bridges aren't obsolete, nor freeway flyovers (given the three times cost increase to go underground, it is wise economics to go overhead... The very thing the original poster was complaining about). You can't compare against existing system which have been in place for over a hundred years - it takes many years for people to adjust to any new transport system, especially one that involves a mode shift. 650000 people per day is a reasonable number for any transport system. Perhaps you can find a more objective assessment? You might compare to the cost of building a freeway in the same city, and the number of people that serves.--Jaded-view (talk) 03:33, 16 April 2008 (UTC)