Talk:DeKalb Avenue (BMT Fourth Avenue Line)

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I just left a comment at the Manhattan Bridge article. See my article on the 4Av line, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMT_Fourth_Avenue_Line I have problems calling the tracks between DeKalb to or thru the Montague St tunnel as part of the 4Av line. --FourthAve 9 July 2005 04:06 (UTC)

[edit] Tracks in station

The article says:

"Until late April 1961, the station had only four tracks."

Not so. It was built with six tracks and has operated with six tracks since 1920. What was changed was the configuration of services and the location of major switching. -- Cecropia 02:41, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Station's Line

This station is not a part of the BMT Broadway Line. The station is shared with the BMT Brighton Line, as well as the BMT Fourth Avenue Line. This can be considered a station complex, where the station is served by more than one line. The aparpriate title should be DeKalb Avenue (New York City Subway). --imdanumber1 22:07, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

I agree. However, I see from the edit summary that the article was called DeKalb Avenue (New York City Subway) until April 2006. User:Larry V renamed it to DeKalb Avenue (BMT Broadway Line), with this edit summary:
(moved DeKalb Avenue (New York City Subway) to DeKalb Avenue (BMT Broadway Line): emergency exit info says "BMT Broadway Line"; also, must differentiate between this station and identically named station on the BMT Canarsie Line)
These do not seem like good reasons to me. The article on New York City Subway chaining makes very clear that this station is not on the Broadway Line. The emergency exit sign could be an error, and isn't sufficiently weighty evidence unless backed up with something else. The ambiguity with DeKalb Avenue (BMT Canarsie Line) could easily be resolved with a statement at the top of the article, "For the BMT Canarsie Line station, see...."
Having said that, I've a great respect for Larry V's contributions, and as the article has already been renamed once, we should make sure there's consensus before renaming it again. Marc Shepherd 13:40, 6 September 2006 (UTC)


We can discuss this further on WP:NYCS. --Imdanumber1 ( Talk | contribs) 12:36, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Service history for the bypass

  • 3a/T/B 1931?-1986? (rush hours)
  • B 1986?-2001 (all but late nights)
  • D 2004-present (all but late nights)
  • 3b/TT 1916??-1931? (rush hours)
  • 4/N 1915??-1986 (rush hours, later daytime, later weekdays, later all but nights, later rush hours)
  • N 2004-present (all but late nights)
  • 5a 1931-1959? (rush hours)