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[edit] Asian tsunami

After seeing his special on how he lives @ ATT.com I realize he is just another contributor to the hypocrisy that degrades the standard of living for all men. How greedy can one man be, just a shame people applaude this behavior.

Why didn't Deion urge athletes to donate $1K after the Asian tsunami? It was actually the height of football season at the time too, so he would have raised a lot more attention for his cause.... just my 2 cents. --Madchester 15:42, September 3, 2005 (UTC)

  • How many Asian athletes have called on every member of their respective professional sports team or league to donate money to victims of the US hurricanes? Do you know? I couldn't find anything of the sort on the net. That is a sincere question, not looking to argue. AriGold 12:29, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
    • I don't know, but it's not like Thailand has the professional sports base that the U.S.A. does...jfg284 17:05, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Wouldn't it be appropriate to mention his faith, since he talk about it so often? --Cronosquall 02:06, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 40 yard dash

Please add his 40 time and vertical jump.

Can we get a source for his 40 time? I thought he timed a 4.26.

I have never heard of the 4.06 time that is claimed in the article. I have read in numerous article that NFL scouts clocked him at 4.16 or 4.17. I am changing the time to 4.17 to conform to this article, which is the time that NFL scouts timed him at. This article claims that Deion held the combine record at 4.28 seconds. So, I listed both times. AriGold 15:39, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
I've set the time to 4.29 according to the official Atlanta Falcons site; see the reference note at the bottom of the page. —Sesquialtera II (talk) 17:51, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
There are no official recorded times for Deion Sanders. He came into the league before electronic timing was used at the combine. Scott Keeler (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 04:36, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Katrina?????

I think whoever posted that is wrong, I am pretty sure it was Warrick Dunn who wrote the "Leading Off" in Sports Illustrated calling on other athletes to donate, I mean this guy doesn't even have a source.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9177576/ AriGold 13:02, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lester Hayes.....Deion's 37

I know i read it somehwere, i just cant find it but i know i saw it somewhere. BIG Tuna 01:59, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chargers Reserve-Retired List?

Someone added this to the links at the bottom and it was subsequently removed, but I think it merits a space in the article. I believe that he was waived by the Skins two or three years after he retired after rumors surfaced that the Raiders or someone else wanted him to play for them. Though several teams claimed him, the one that got him was the Chargers, who put him on their reserve-retired list rather than sign him. I read something at the time that it was a bitch-slap move from Schottenheimer because Sanders retired rather than play for him in Washington. I'm not putting this in the article myself because it's 4 AM and bedtime, and because I have no source on it. Rufusgriffin 07:54, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't have the timeline handy but you did touch most of the facts. Here is the press release:

http://chargers.com/news/press-releases/press-1040716800.php Leftus 05:38, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] MLB game and NFL game in one day?

I don't think he ever played in an MLB game and an NFL game in the same day. People just seem to think that he did. I remember he played in an NFL game and then suited up for a Braves game, but he never played. I might be wrong, but it should be referenced somewhere if it's true.

Answer- it was October 11, 1992. The night before, Sanders played in Game 4 of the 1992 NLCS and arrived in Miami late that night. The next day, Sanders played with the Falcons versus the Miami Dolphins (a game with a 1 p.m kickoff), then left immediately after the game to Pittsburgh, and arrived just before the start of Game 5 of the NLCS, which was that evening. But it has been source-attributed.Wayman975 20:29, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

On October 11 1992, according to http://espn.go.com/classic/biography/s/Sanders_Deion.html, he did not play in the Braves game. Meanwhile, the reference supplied is a broken link. I will edit the article appropriately. 71.243.11.179 04:17, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Suicide attempt

One would assume a suicide attempt by a man of his stature would be more prominently featured in this article. Right now, it seems to be "hidden" in the Trivia section. Divad 13:17, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deion and Lemuel Stinson

I clearly remember a game back in 1990 when the Falcons were playing the Bears. Lemuel Stinson (who nobody can remember anymore) was a Bears cornerback who was getting a lot of interceptions and was being put up as a big deal (he was also going out before games and guaranteeing he'd get "two interceptions" or whatever). Sanders, Tim McKyer and Andre Rison gave an interview on TV where they were wearing their headrags and talking all kinds of smack about Stinson and the Bears and they guaranteed they'd win. When they were playing, Stinson was coming off the field, or it was in-between plays, or during a timeout or something, but I DEFINITELY remember Sanders flying in and cheapshot blindsiding Stinson either long after the play was over, or maybe Sanders wasn't even supposed to be on the field and there WAS no play going on. Doesn't anyone else remember this? TheQuandry 04:00, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Good Team Mate?

I question whether all of Sanders' former team mates would agree with this. He left Atlanta with considerable acrimony and said some rather arrogant/negative things about the organization. I don't think he is highly regarded by quite a few Falcon fans. The year he spent in San Francisco also ended with mutual recriminations (despite the Super Bowl victory), and he is definitely not popular in the Bay area. He had a not-so-hidden feud with prominent Cowboys like Troy Aikman, and Moose Johnston has been widely quoted for his remarks along the lines that "Deion was never a Cowboy; he was a good player, but a hired gun; no one in the locker room ever thought of him as a Cowboy." One exception to the negative Deion-dynamic in Dallas was his close relationship with Michael Irvin. Today, Sanders is reviled by many Cowboy fans, and probably only a few have a really positive image or positive memories of him. Finally, he is also reviled in Washington, where he signed a huge contract (courtesy of Dan Dnyder, of course), put the Skins in terrible salary cap shape, and promptly had a lackluster season dominated by injuries before retiring. In his one match up aganst the Cowboys as a Redskin, he muffed a punt and contributed to a 'Skins loss.

Baltimore seems to be the only exception to Deion's pattern of burning bridges after leaving each franchise. I have even heard a couple of people (football people) speculate that part of Deion's decision to return to the Ravnens was indeed connected to these legacy issues-- a sure Hall of Famer, what "uniform" would Deion go into the Hall wearing-- Falcons? (trashed the organization and his QB) Niners? (trashed the organization, really hated by Bay area fans) Cowboys? (trashed Aikman and others, very unpopular in Big D) Redskins? (one year of poor football, fat contract, hated by fans). The Ravens gave him a shot at redemption as far as retiring with a positive relationship w/ a franchise.

Maybe that last bit of speculation goes too far-- but given his history, it wouldn't be a surprise if a little of that did indeed factor into his decision-making. Calling Deion a good team mate in this article is a real stretch. The divisiveness and bridge burning is definitely a part of his complex legacy. TexxasFinn

[edit] MLB career

The information regarding his baseball career isnt great. I dont know anything about his baseball career or baseball in general, but it needs to be added to. Did he win any awards playing? Did he miss nfl games to play baseball. What type of contracts did he have as a baseball player? Was he as good at baseball as he was at football? Some of that is opinion but some stats would back it up

[edit] Dogfighting Controversy

jmfangio keeps removing convtroversial statements made by him in reference to michael vick. nobody posted any opinion or biased statements but he keeps initiating revert wars and deleting factual statements. They were in the news a lot and are highly relevent to his bio. Just like we put up controversial statements by politicians and other celebrities. See Keith Hernanez's bio - we have put up his controversial comments about women and baseball. The bottom line is these statements are not at all biased and belong on his page. Please stop violating wikipedia policy by revert deleting them. Feel free to change how they are presented but they belong on the page. See Wiki policy:

"Be respectful to others and their points of view. This means primarily: Do not simply revert changes in a dispute. When someone makes an edit you consider biased or inaccurate, improve the edit, rather than reverting it. Provide a good edit summary when making significant changes that other users might object to. The revision you would prefer will not be established by reverting, and repeated reverting is forbidden; discuss disputed changes on the talk page. If you encounter rude or inappropriate behavior, resist the temptation to respond unkindly, and do not make personal attacks."

I emphasize the policy on refraining from reversions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gtown05 (talk • contribs) 04:54, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] MLB career

Shouldn't there be a reference to his MLB career and teams in his info box somewhere? Right now it only mentions NFL.Gmh224 21:40, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

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