Talk:Degtyaryov machine gun

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was move. —Nightstallion (?) 12:29, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

DP-28→Degtyarev light machine gun — the full general name for this article about models DP, DPM, DA, DT, and RP-46.

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  • Support this is my request. —Michael Z. 2006-02-16 19:25 Z
  • Support we should mention this naming "issue" in new article too. --194.100.206.95 10:43, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Support It is best to change it to Degtyarev light machine gun. --84.25.210.235 14:00, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Support Oberiko 15:45, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

In the USSR it was known exclusively as DP or DP-27! (DP obrazca 1927 goda). From where DP-28 came from?... Pibwl 22:24, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

Yes, DP-27 seems to be more commonly used name than DP-28. Really confusing. What's the origin of DP-28? Any actual Russian references to it? --194.100.206.95 20:22, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
Any thoughts about naming issue? Two of three current links in article call it DP-27 instead of DP-28. --194.100.206.95 15:55, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

From a look at the external links, it looks like just DP machine gun, or to expand the name Degtyarev Infantry machine gun, would be suitable titles for this article (I'm no expert: someone please confirm or deny). Since this article also covers the DT, DA, DPM and RP-46, perhaps we should move it to a more general name like Degtyarev machine gun. —Michael Z. 2006-02-16 16:12 Z

1928 was the year that the Soviet Army adopted the weapon and it is identified as such in The Encyclopedia of Weapons of World War II on page 248. That said, I agree with Mzajac as Degtyarev light machine gun seems to be the easiest way to identify this weapon and all its variants. Oberiko 19:00, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
Agreed, light machine gun helps differentiate this from the heavy DK (Degtyarëv Krupnokalibernyy). I'll post a move request to Degtyarev light machine gun. —Michael Z. 2006-02-16 19:18 Z
Good idea. Nice thinking with DK! --194.100.206.95 10:43, 17 February 2006 (UTC)


Some google searches:

Substitute "light machine gun", and the numbers go down to 1,420/251/114, still helping support this page move. Does anyone have any authoritative book references? —Michael Z. 2006-02-16 20:21 Z

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.