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[edit] Thanks for writing to me. Please note that I'm not logging in very often. I will certainly respond, though it may take a while.

[edit] Contralto page

Hi! Thanks for your intelligent edit over at the contralto page. Just thought I'd say hi. :-) Danypo 19:22, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sports and opera

Yeah, it's weird. All it really means is that I can't get my music friends to go to a game with me, and I can't get my sports friends to go to an opera with me.

You did make me wonder whether it's possible to make a sports opera that either group would really want to see, though. :) Microtonal 03:18, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

(Long football discussions here.)

[edit] Hello Deebkie!

I see you've added your name to the Project Buddhism list. If you've any interest in Zen you could add some nominations to the Zen collaboration page - I've just started it and so far I'm the only one who's added any nominations, so it's a bit lonely looking at the moment, and of course, you'd have the honour of being the first poster after the page author! Rentwa 15:49, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm new to this and it took me a while to find you. Different versions of your name didn't help. (I hope I've got the right person.) Yes, I know a lot about Buddhism, in a haphazard way, and I'd be happy to receive any questions from you and see whether I can answer them. Peter jackson 10:21, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your edit to Ajahn Chah

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The current name of Chah is never used to refer to Ajahn Chah, and it is actually considered impolite in Thailand to call a monk by just his name. Not putting any polite word in front of 'Chah' is considered a form of abuse... So in English it's become part of his name, 'Chah' is never used on its own. Also, 'Ajahn' is not even honorific, just a recognition that he was a teacher. Ajahn Chah's official honorific name is Chao Khun Bodhinyanathera. Any monk can be called Ajahn. Greetings, Sacca 03:49, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ajahn Chah

Hi, Deeb, I came to this talk page after looking at recent edits to Ajahn Chah. I've also read the correspondence between you and Sacca, and I'd like to give my opinion. Normally, it is indeed Wikipedia policy that religious figures should be listed under their names without titles. However, this is not enforced without exceptions. The Catholic Popes are an exception, for instance; this is not out of a particular desire to honour them, but for the practical reason that they often use fairly common names and it becomes necessary to include "Pope" in order ot distinguish them (the same rationale as our naming convention for kings). I have intended for a long time—so far without fruit—to propose a general policy for naming non-Western religious figures. The gist of my proposal is going to be that we must use the simplest form of the name—i.e. without titles—except when that makes the name difficult to recognise. An additional exception, I suppose, is if the unadorned name sounds positively insulting, rather than simply neutral. "Ajahn Chah" probably qualifies as an exception on the first count (as well as the second if Sacca is correct). In the case of Ayya (Ajahn) Tataaloka Bhikkhuni, on second thought, I don't know for sure which titles if any are necessary. Please note that my suggested policy is not consistently enforced on Wikipedia, although I hope it eventually will be. There are still a lot of Tibetan lamas, for instance, who have "Rinpoche" in the titles of their articles, which I don't think is really necessary.

In any event, it's important that we move articles by using the "move page" function, not by executing a Wikipedia:Cut-and-paste move. Deebki, can you please undo the cut-and-paste that you did to Chah?—Nat Krause(Talk!) 05:20, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

(BTW, cut and paste move was the only option, since the page already existed) Certainly, Nat. I'd be most happy to undo that move (I was chagrinned to make the move initially). I'd like the articles to be consistently named, which ever way is correct. Do you have a discussion page about your naming proposal? I'm very eager to see a policy set. If using full titles is correct, how 'bout if you correct the changes you made to the name of the article on Ajahn Tataaloka and I'll revert the other changes I've made to titles, too? Sacca is absolutely correct. It is, indeed, a great insult not to use an Ajahn's title. I was about to change the name of Ayya Tataaloka to Ajahn Tataaloka when you moved it to the non-honorific name. Deebki 05:44, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
Her name is apparently spelled Tathaaloka, and so I have moved the article to Ayya Tathaaloka. I didn't see any sources outside of Wikipedia that are using "Ajahn Tathaaloka"; we should wait until other sources are using that name before we start using it. By the way, my proposal hasn't really been proposed yet, so there's no discussion page for it yet. I'll notify you of future developments—Nat Krause(Talk!) 07:06, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Hello Deeb,

Good to see its resolved now, I saw the article Tataaloka previously, and didn't know what it referred to until I started reading the article.

Ajahn, by the way, is used for all kinds of teachers, also high-school teachers for example. So the category Ajahns could include anybody who's a teacher in any subject in Thailand, also. Ajahn in our current context (monks) however refers to any (senior) monk in the Thai Theravada Tradition (inluding foreigners), and so is distinguished from category:Thai monk Greetings, Sacca 06:01, 14 September 2006 (UTC)


Hello Deeb, Ayya is not used in Thailand, as you probably know there's only a very small number of 'real' Thai nuns now, most Thai female monastics are 8-precept nuns who wear white clothing. They are technically not nuns like a samaneri or bhikkhuni is. Ayya is a Pali term, I think, and originally used in Sri Lanka for nuns (that's where Ayya Khema got it from, I think). I looked it up in a pali dictionary [1] and it means something like honourable or worthy. In current practical use, however, it's only used for nuns.

Ajahn is the Thai version of the Pali word acariya, which means teacher also.Greetings, Sacca 07:07, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vinaya

The division of labour you suggest sounds sensible in principle. Certainly I'm not up to the technical stuff (yet). By "six" schools, do you mean those with a complete surviving Vinaya Pitaka? I'm not sure how much detailed information there is available about them. I'll have a look around, but that may take some time. Peter jackson 11:00, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

I wasn't thinking of lots of research myself, rather, as you originally suggested, pointing to sources for you to look at. I soon discovered that there seem to be a very large number of interlinked, overlapping, and contradictory articles on Buddhism, so I'm trying to focus mainly on what I know best, the Pali Canon. I've been expanding the main article, trying to model it mutatis mutandis on the Bible one. Once I've got it into reasonable shape I can start on the articles on individual books of the Canon, some of which don't even exist yet. I'll probably start with the Vinaya as that comes first, so I might be doing something to help you there. Meanwhile, some information that comes to mind, which you might or might not know already. As far as I know only one of the six Vinayas has been translated: 'The Book of the Discipline', tr. IB Horner, 1938-66, 6 vols., Pali Text Society. Actually, even this is not quite a complete translation, as about six pages of expurgated material are given in Pali. It's also full of mistakes. The Dharmaguptaka and Nahasanghika Vinayas are included in the BDK translation project, and you might try finding out how that's getting on. The Bhikshuni Vibhanga of the Dharmaguptakas has been translated: you can find this on the Wisdom Books website. An outline of the contents of all six Vinayas is given in Lamotte's 'History of Indian Buddhism'. One other book you might find interesting and/or useful is 'Controversies over Buddhist Nuns', Pali Text Society, by a Chinese nun whose name I forget: details at www.palitext.com. I think that's all for now. Peter jackson 09:28, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sigalovada Sutta's inherent gender bias

Hi Deeb - Having seen your strong commitment to WP Buddhism and to eliminate gender-bias in WP articles, I was wondering if you might have any advice or contributions for the Sigalovada Sutta article. Like many Buddhist householder-related articles, when it comes to addressing marriage, this canonical sutta addresses the listener as a 5th-century B.C.E. husband. In the edits I made to this particular article, I felt compelled to reflect the original androcentric context, but I was hoping you might know of some contemporary gender-neutral Buddhist interpretations of this sutta or might provide some wisdom on how to avoid having this important cultural artifact perpetuate heterosexist realities. Thanks for any help, LarryR 15:38, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi Deebki - Thanks for the kind reply. If you get a chance and you come across something pertinent, a pointer or two would be much appreciated. Thanks again & welcome back. Best wishes, LarryR 17:29, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] [moved comment]

Deeb,

I am also looking for information on Kimerly Carr-Cavallo, who claims to be a relative of Joe F. Carr, first president of the NFL. I am currently writting a book on Joe Carr, and have found no relation between Carr-Cavallo and Joe Carr what so over. Any information on her is rather hard to find other than she is wealthy by marriage, lives near Atlanta, Ga. and is involved in professional womens polo. Hope to hear from you if you find anything on her like a "bio". Oct. 19, 2006.

Chris J. Lewie, Author Hilliard, Ohio rlewie@sprynet.com.

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[edit] You have mail

You have a reply waiting for you at Wikipedia:Esperanza/Admin coaching  The Transhumanist   18:26, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanza Admin coaching - November 2 - Held requests

As it's been a while since you signed up for admin coaching, I am just checking that you still wish to receive it. Leave a note on my talk page, and I'll assign you some of our free coaches. Let me know (on my talk page) if you have any questions. Cheers, Highway Grammar Enforcer! 22:23, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Admin coaching - November 5 - Held comments

You have mail. 10:56, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

  1. (assigned) I've no immediate plan to become an Admin, but would love to improve my skills as an editor who promotes harmony and collaboration in the Wikipedia community. --Deebki 12:09, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
    Cool. There's this department called Wikipedia:Third opinion. It's designed to help break arguments between pairs of Wikipedian's locked in mortal combat over the articles they are working on. This department is running really slow right now, which means that perhaps people aren't being made aware of it. You could help by placing links to this department in relevant locations around Wikipedia. Once the department starts getting more requests, you could then jump in and provide third opinions. I hope you like this suggestion.  The Transhumanist   10:18, 1 November 2006 (UTC)   --Please post further questions and replies on the Admin school's main page. Thank you.

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[edit] Rosanne Siino

Hi, just noticed this article. It is important to note that the references you give are just too vague- take a look at Template:Cite book and Template:Cite journal for citation templates. At the very least, the issue of the magazine would be needed, and the authors of the article and books would be required. Thanks. Feel free to contact me if I can be of any help. J Milburn 22:37, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Page move to your user space

I have moved Wikipedia:Sandbox/AjSumed Draft to User:Deeb/AjSumed Draft, since it looks like the page has information beyond what is now in the article. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 14:44, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ajahn Thaniya

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[edit] Speedy deletion of Template:U.S. Women's football (soccer)

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[edit] Speedy deletion of "Reykjavík Theater Company"

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[edit] Speedy deletion of Reykjavík Theater Company

A tag has been placed on Reykjavík Theater Company requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an article with no content whatsoever, or whose contents consist only of external links, "See also" section, book reference, category tag, template tag, interwiki link, rephrasing of the title, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

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[edit] Speeding of articles for zero content

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[edit] Portal:Feminism

Hello! :) I replied a while back to your post on my talk page about Portal:Feminism. Go to my talk page to see my reply. Thanks! Hope to hear back from you! --Grrrlriot (talk) 23:24, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of List of female basketball players

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