Talk:Debra Jo Rupp

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Debra Jo Rupp was a good article nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There are suggestions below for improving the article. Once these are addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Reviewed version: February 24, 2008


-- Why did you revert my edits? How can we have an article about her without mentioning that she's hot? It's like the elephant in the room. It's fine if you don't feel it yourself, but it's an important fact about her that many people do. Attractor 15:59, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Saying she's sexy and has quirky sex appeal is your opinion, but not mine, so it is neither fact nor neutral. Please read the Wikipedia:Neutral point of view policy to understand where I'm coming from. Mike H (Talking is hot) 16:13, August 23, 2005 (UTC)


-- On Wikipedia there is a category called sex symbols because somebody thinks it is fact and neutral that those people are attractive to many people. I don't know what kind of standard of evidence they use there. How about distinctive if you don't like quirky? And can you disagree that she has a womanly figure? How about using her own words "capon-chicken body"? People watch the show to watch her. Attractor 17:06, 23 August 2005 (UTC)


-- From the category sex symbols: In Marylin Monroe: "Sizzling screen presence, stunning good looks ..." In Patrick Swayze: "Dreamy good looks suggest a tough tenderness" In Angelina Jolie: "exotic looks, full lips ..."

Google for "good looks site:en.wikipedia.org": In Rock Hudson: "... famous for his rugged good looks." In Mark Goddard: "Mark's good looks and charisma were hard to resist..." In Blunsdon United: "Due to his good looks, ..." In Bing Crosby: "Bing wooed fans with a sensuous voice, wit, and good looks." In Montgomery Clift: "Clift was also famous for his stunning good looks and intense, penetrating eyes."

Google for "extraordinary beauty site:en.wikipedia.org": In Shobhana: "Shobhana's skilled execution of dance movements and her extraordinary beauty ..." In Elizabeth of Russia: "... delighted every one by her extraordinary beauty and vivacity" In Elise Neal: "... noted for her extraordinary beauty."

Google for "striking beauty site:en.wikipedia.org": In Alice Roosevelt Longworth: "A striking beauty, ..." In Diamond Bessie: "... abundance of attention from men resulting from her striking beauty ..." In Carolina, Baroness Nairne: "... her striking beauty and pleasing manners earned her ..."

There are many more of these. Attractor 18:06, 23 August 2005 (UTC)


I'd be more than welcome to use a description that Rupp used herself, as long as it's accompanied by a source. Mike H (Talking is hot) 17:48, August 23, 2005 (UTC)


-- From http://www.nndb.com/people/192/000049045/:

Since 1998, she has played Kitty Forman, the harried but loving wife of Kurtwood Smith and mother of Topher Grace on That '70s Show. With her distinctive nasally voice, an unmistakable, infectious laugh, and her maternal yet sexy presence, she was made for the role. The Boston Herald named Rupp as "Best Sitcom Mom" on television.

"In 1977, I looked like a capon chicken dressed up in denim jumpsuits, and now I finally get on a series that airs longer than six episodes, and I still look like a capon chicken dressed up in denim jumpsuits!"

from http://www.superseventies.com/that70sshow.html:

Kitty's patterned polyester frocks are "hateful," Rupp says, but more are in store for the second season. "I'm happy the series will be hanging around, but I have this little capon-chicken body, and the '70s were definitely not my period."

- USA TODAY, 3/12/99.

Attractor 19:06, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] movie roles

i'm quite certain she played an office manager/supervisor in the movie "clockwatchers." she's not mentioned in that movie's wiki-article though.

[edit] Good Article Nomination

I have nominated this article for a "Good Article" rating, instead of "Start Class." I have spent a great deal of time fixing this biography, researching Rupp's filmography and stage credits, and adding source citations. Some of the external links are to subscriber-only databases, but I still feel that this now deserves Good Article status. nycdi (talk) 11:36, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GA review

  • The lead does not summarize the article, it includes nothing on her career/personal life/ early life and needs to be expanded to 1-2 paragraphs.
  • Poorly written, Early life has no flow and starts with something completely different each sentence
  • New York Times - italics for publications
  • lots of [citation needed] tags
  • Why link television so much?
  • Rupp returned to New York City for a run in the theater - a run in the theater?

comedienne

  • no spaces between references like [1] [2] [3]
  • When she first left Massachusetts and headed to New York City, her mother made her promise never to wait tables - when did she leave? what is this sentence about?
  • and kicked smoking for good is not encyclopedia language.
  • one sentence paragraphs should be merged/removed expanded.

In summary, the article requires a general overview in the lead, no citation needed tags, not to change subject with every sentence, and fix the one sentence paragraphs. M3tal H3ad (talk) 10:30, 24 February 2008 (UTC)