User talk:Death of Jeremiah Duggan/Request for Comment

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[edit] Request for Comments

To help resolve the dispute between editor Slim on the one hand, and editors Herschelkrustofsky and Weed Harper on the other, about the Death of Jeremiah Duggan article, both sides will be creating new user subpages with their preferred versions.

Slim's version can be seen here.

Any comments from editors would be very much appreciated. Comments can be left here or at the bottom of here. Many thanks.

I have posted my draft version here. --Herschelkrustofsky 15:04, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I was pleasantly surprised to discover that the two draft versions are remarkably similar, indicating that both were written in the spirit of compromise. I would, however, like to note my objection to the following characterization in Slim's version:

Lyndon LaRouche wrote extensively during the 1970s on how psychoanalytic techniques might be used to alter the bourgeois consciousness of working class people to induce them to join a revolutionary movement like his own.

This is an inaccurate and somewhat self-serving characterization. LaRouche was writing on pschoanalysis in response to ideas presented by Lawrence Kubie on "neurotic blocks to creativity". LaRouche found Kubie's work useful with regard to the challenges of political organizing. As I noted on Talk:Death of Jeremiah Duggan, rather than characterize LaRouche's views, it is best to use a direct quote, at which point POV is no longer an issue. --Herschelkrustofsky 15:38, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Slim, note that in my draft version, the above section is changed to Lyndon LaRouche wrote extensively during the 1970s on how psychoanalytic techniques might be used to address "neurotic blocks to creativity." Also note that the quote on the Beatles is preserved intact (re: Weed's objection), Tavistock is wikified, and the external links are restored. I have put the template back; I object to it, but I will pursue my objection through other channels and will not edit it out of the Duggan article. In addition, I have added your new Symons sentence, and changed the word "suicide" to "death" in the first sentence (the word "suicide" was originally yours, BTW). Please let me know if this settles all unresolved details. --Herschelkrustofsky 15:39, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)