Talk:Deaths in March 2007

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[edit] Henri Troyat

Before we keep on shuffling him backwards and forwards between 2 March and 4 March, we need to find an authoritative and credible reference. See his talk page where I've raised the issue and given the conflicting citations. The article currently says he died on 2 March, which is supported by the Academie francaise. But there's a note that other sources give 4 March. Wikipedia should speak with a single voice, so at the very least we should be consistent (even if consistently wrong), but at the moment Deaths in 2007 says he died 4 March but his article says he died 2 March. Anyone have a view about to proceed? JackofOz 02:48, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

The majority of sites support 2 March as the d.o.d.; the Academie would seem to be the most authoritative in this situation. I'll try another reversion. WWGB 03:21, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

I am Henri Troyat's grandson and can shed light on your question. He died on Friday March 2nd of natural causes.

Thank you, sir. I still keep on seeing obituaries alleging he died on various other days. But we know better. JackofOz 13:14, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Bad News Brown"

Can someone think of a way to rephrase the sentence about Allen Coage? Referring to him as 'American-born' needs to be followed up by what he was at the time of death (i.e. American-born Canadian). If someone can think of a way of phrasing it where it retains that he was an Olympic athlete for the States but was a resident of Canada at the time of his death, it would be appreciated (because I just can't get my mind to work today). SailorAlphaCentauri 16:21, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Just wanted to point out that it appears the Mr. Mike Mooney's death is listed twice once on March 7th and once on March 2nd. Thanks

Thank you for pointing that out. I have fixed it as it appears he died on the 2nd according to this source. [1] -- No Guru 20:34, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

surely if he was born in America he is American not Canadian - if he is an American who was residing in Canada then surely that still doesn't make him Canadian - therefore it should rightly say American born Athlete - i don't think the fact that he lived in Canada during his life has any bearing on his nationality status - you could add in brackets a Canadian resident User:Jennifer45

The problem I have/had with the entry is that by saying American-born athelete, as opposed to American athele, it implied that he was no longer a citizen of the United States [of that I am not sure]. It also made it seem as if he were a citizen of another country at the time of his Olympic participation which, as far as the evidence goes, was not the case. I was in search of someone to find evidence of his citizenship of Canada at the time of his death (instead of just residency) and to state it in his description on the death page. SailorAlphaCentauri 16:11, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trevor Moss

I removed the reference to him (11 March 2007) because it was not cited and he didn't appear to be a notable person. I searched for his name on Google and I didn't see any links to an actor, and certainly no reports of a death. In fact, the only "Trevor Moss... of Broken Arrow, Oklahoma" I found was a web programmer. AndrewAllen 02:21, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hockey

With regards to Cec Anstey, there should be a differentiation to what type of hockey he played, since Australia participates both in field hockey and ice hockey. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 141.202.248.11 (talk) 14:02, 12 March 2007 (UTC).

I don't see a problem with it. In Australia, "field hockey" is simply called "hockey"; "ice hockey" is called "ice hockey". AndrewAllen 17:00, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
it says "hockey" for concision but is pipe-linked to field hockey to make this easily apparent. tomasz. 14:26, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Richard Jeni

The reference to his death as "apparent" suicide should be removed because the cited article states that the suicide has not yet been officially confirmed. SailorAlphaCentauri 15:28, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

that's surely a reason to keep the word "apparent". tomasz. 16:32, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Maybe I'm missing something on the word "apparent". Before looking it up just this second, I saw the use of "apparent" as "apparently" (i.e. that it was obvious as to what happened with no need to investigate further) and not as if it's what the evidence presents until confirmed or proven otherwise. SailorAlphaCentauri 16:48, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
ah, i see your point... i was taking "apparent suicide" to mean "all signs point to suicide but we've not confirmed it yet", sort of thing. tomasz. 18:31, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
His family have said even though the autopsy will take 3 weeks, they are sure he committed suicide [2] Ade1982 15:22, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
While that may be the case, it would not have altered my perception of his listing at the time this thread began. This was a misunderstanding of a term, not a dispute of the facts per se. But thank you anyway. SailorAlphaCentauri 16:19, 19 March 2007 (UTC) talk

[edit] Cliff Richard

Because of only one unreliable source and no other references to his death that I can find. I have removed this one. If it's true then please accept my apologies, but I personally couldn't see it staying there if it's not true, and it needs to be referenced to a proper source surely? Like a news article or something, I will continue to look around for verification but for now it ought not to be there. SGGH 12:47, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

His death has been posted and removed a couple of times now, once with a link to a bbc news article which didn't work, I'm still searching for verification... unless provided I will keep removing it, I'm sure everyone understands why. SGGH 12:54, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Totally agree with you. I am removing it too. I have searched all available news and I can't see any evidence of it being true. Will (aka Wimt) 12:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
I will check again, but most likely vandalism. Thanks for backing me up! SGGH 13:00, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Betty Hutton

Just noting that we don't have a date or cause of death at this stage. All we know for sure is that she has died. The citation makes it clear these details will be released at a later time, in accordance with her wishes. It might not be 12 March at all. Perhaps we should annotate the entry on the main page accordingly. JackofOz 03:29, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, but those additional notes just look unconventional and ugly. All will be revealed in the next days: if the present date is unacceptable then the entry should be deleted until d.o.d. is confirmed. WWGB 03:57, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
When Barry Cowsill died, we didn't know when exactly he died, just when the body was found. Didn't we put something like (body recovered) next to it? (I can't seem to find the entry anymore...) Same with the cat that used to live in the British parliament. Couldn't we have just (death announced) next to it? Canadian Paul 04:04, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notability - Rameses

Important enough to have an article, and listed in deaths? The article about Rameses is actually only about the death. Ade1982 23:03, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Notable on Wikipedia means media coverage in this case... which he's getting. Especially given the timing (NCAA tournament) his death has gotten relatively wide coverage. Doubt he'll ever get an actual Wikipedia article but who knows? --W.marsh 03:31, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Martha Sosman

Martha Sosman is listed as dying on both the 10th and 11th of March, with two different causes of death listed. I could not assertain from the linked articles what the actual date of death was. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.210.175.152 (talk) 01:31, 28 March 2007 (UTC).