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[edit] Moving Plot Summary

I think that we should the plot summary to the top , so it'll be right after the contents table and above Development and Creation

--GuardianFayt (talk) 12:15, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

The order is determined by how to get the reader to best understand the subject. However I do think the summary should be redone, as it is exactly the same as the first half of this fan-site article.→041744 18:52, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
I would argue the plot should above development for that reason. Are we sure that fansite didn't just copy the Wikipedia article? It has happened before. ANN copied the plot summary I wrote for Baccano! Doceirias (talk) 20:06, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
I can not know, however I would say it copied from Wikipedia... being so reilable (he, he..). I wasn't impling the plot shold stay womewhere over another just siteing the reason for order. I would agree with it being put above devolopment.→041744 20:50, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
I agree. I also wonder if Staff is important enough to be over plot. I think it should be in an additional information column or something like that. Sort of like trivia to me.Megnetic (talk) 02:47, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
I'd argue in favor of eliminating that entirely. The work assistants do is invaluable, but not worth mentioning them here, especially in a generic list. Doceirias (talk) 02:50, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
I don't see how else I can mention them - The source does not state exactly what each of the staff members did exactly. They are invaluable (as you said) - What kinds of sources could explain what they do? Also some of them may become manga artists in their own right (so when they do, a wikilink could be established) WhisperToMe (talk) 03:25, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Death Note Rules

The Death Note article states that "Death Notes all have rules written on the Note's first page." This is not true. Shinigami already know the rules, so to have them written down is unneeded. Ryuk wrote them down on one notebook so that the human who found it would know what it did, and since Light is the one who found Ryuk's notebook, only Light's Death Note had rules in it. He later copied the rules down for Mikami's use - but most Death Notes will not have rules written on them. Luscinae (talk) 03:02, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Well if that's the case why don't You edit it?Megnetic (talk) 02:49, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Because I couldn't find the edit link, deary. I recall the page previously saying something along the lines of only more credible users being able to edit it at the time, so I signed up specifically to point it out. Luscinae (talk) 23:13, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
I went ahead and changed it because that's how I remember it as well. But feel free to add the source in the anime or manga if I don't find it. And I'm also thinking it wasn't written on the first page at all, but on the front and back inside covers, but I don't really recall right now. --Wirbelwindヴィルヴェルヴィント (talk) 03:26, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
The rules were written on the inside front cover. Later, when Light had Ryuk write the two fake rules, Ryuk chose to write them on the inside back cover for some reason. I don't have a specific source for this, but it's been shown often enough in the anime that I can recall pretty easily from memory. In any case, I've more or less completely rewritten that section to correct information and cover the major points. —Dinoguy1000 19:55, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] L's Theme Sounds Like Tubular Bells

Has anyone made a reference to the fact this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=0IPrH9rQ75Q

sounds like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFqKK4qCRZk

Its not the exact same of course but I was wondering if maybe there has been mention of the similarities of the openings in interviews with the creators of Death Note or mentioned by the press at some point.68.226.119.187 (talk) 08:37, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

  • It always reminded me more of the Halloween theme. But unless the composer mentioned it explicitly and we can source it, it's original research. JuJube (talk) 09:28, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
    • That's what Im asking for, if someone has a source of someone working with the soundtrack or the director that it was inspired by Tubular Bells. Also on a personal note, the Halloween theme is a lot faster than either of these. And Im not a musician but I think the Halloween theme seems to be the opossite. IE Tubular and L have low notes followed by higher ones aka going up where as Halloween has high followed by lower going down. Or a descent which would make sense since it was crafted for a horror flick where as Tubular and L's are more suspenseful and leading up to something not death. Just my personal take on it.68.226.119.187 (talk) 22:14, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

It isn't the same, but they do sound a lot similar. Also this isn't the first time an anime has used a tune and modified it a bit, like Orochimaru's theme song from Naruto is similar to Toccata and Fugue in D Minor. This: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ayzxh25w47g&feature=related Sounds like this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=_FXoyr_FyFw Moocowsrule (talk) 20:23, 31 May 2008 (UTC)Moocowsrule

[edit] L the Prologue to DEATH NOTE -螺旋の罠 (L the Prologue to DEATH NOTE Rasen no Wana)

I was reading through the article and read the section on L the Prologue to DEATH NOTE Rasen no Wana, and saw the Romaji. It said Eru za Purorōgu tu Desu Nōto -Rasen no Wana, and although this is a minor error, the character tu as mentioned in the article, does not exist in Japanese. The closest character would have to be Tsu. Being a noobie on Wikipedia, I can't edit this, so I'm asking somebody else to. Moocowsrule (talk) 20:24, 31 May 2008 (UTC)Moocowsrule

Tsu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsu_%28kana%29 Tu: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tu_%28kana%29&redirect=no Moocowsrule (talk) 20:26, 31 May 2008 (UTC)Moocowsrule

No offense Moocowsrule, but that proved absolutely nothing...anyway, the sound "tu" is conveyed in Japanese by way of トゥ.—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 06:47, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia: Death note characters use GNU/Linux?

I'm a recent fan of the series and noticed something peculiar at the back of my mind; the characters of the series (namely light and L) seem to be using a desktop Operating system reminiscent to that of a GNU/Linux desktop environment. This is viewable most notably when Light accesses his fathers computer and additionally (in an episode from 18-22, I can't remember which sorry) in the background of a conversation between L and other characters you can see an effect on the desktop similar (I say similar as a key word here) to an effect plug-in available in Compiz-fusion referred to as "water effect" (the effect in this plug-in is called "rain" and as far as I know these effects are only likely to be seen on a GNU/Linux platform). If no one else has seen this either not enough GNU/Linux users are watching Death Note closely enough or simply I'm mistaken and it's only a similarity. If someone can research into this and maybe get a reputable source indicating this usage I think it'd be something important to note about this animation series or at least it's characters in particular. Thanks for any responses in advance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nullhility (talk • contribs) 13:49, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

I don't see this as being notable enough to merit mention, even with a reliable source. If there was some sort of deal brokered to feature a GNU/Linux lookalike in the series, or some sort of controversy surrounding its use/appearance, then we might have something, but the use of the system itself is just a nonnotable bit of cruft. —Dinoguy1000 17:42, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
I usually saw Mac and Windows, but that is not notable. WhisperToMe (talk) 23:08, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia: Poor grammar in one para

Quote: A third movie premiered in February 2008, titled L: Change the WorLd. It is a spin-off focusing on L. Focuses on the last 23 days of L's life-span to solve the case that threaten the world.

The last sentence should be combined with its predecessor, and read something more like: It is a spin-off focusing on L, centering on the last 23 days of his life, spent solving a case that threatens the world. (or something like that) -- the existing last sentence has several minor grammar errors and is a bit stilted. I'd fix it myself but it's semi-locked.

I rewrote the last statement to flow better, and did some other cleanup on that section, as well as tagging it for expansion. —Dinoguy1000 17:40, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Alphabet

I'm probably not the first person to mention this, but because Mellow and Near were possible succesors to L, L = M or N. LMN. Once again, this part of the alphabet being linked to the character's names has probably already been realized, and possibly confirmed. I'm not sure what I'm putting it here for, but somebody might be able to use it to improve the article (not me, since I'm more of discussion and fix minor errors kind of person). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.218.12.31 (talk) 21:48, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

And the Novel had a guy named B —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.110.12.141 (talk) 11:25, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Unless you can provide a reliable source, this is only original research and doesn't merit mention in the article. As it is, even *with* a source, I don't think it's notable enough to merit mention, since it doesn't seem to be a significant aspect of the series. —Dinoguy1000 17:11, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] How to read 13

There's all this talk about Death Note: How to read 13, but what is it actually? Is it a manga, an anime, an interview of some sort? 84.87.168.39 (talk) 16:23, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Death Note: How to read 13 is a one-volume manga that features such things as character profiles and side comics (I think, I haven't actually read it myself). It's named as such because the Death Note manga originally ran for twelve volumes, and How to read 13 was written after the series ended (AFAIK). —Dinoguy1000 17:11, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
It's just a fan book. Interviews, data, character profiles, timelines, that sort of thing. Doceirias (talk) 19:06, 5 June 2008 (UTC)