Talk:Dead Can Dance
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Fred138 User at IP: 198.103.167.20, please don't delete the entry about the Memento compilation. It is a proper album that exists (see Amazon.com; PitchFork Media Review Google Search for Memento + dead can dance). Aggelophoros 22:05, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] DCD is gothic?
Can get it: why anyone consider DCD to be somehow gothic? I can't hear any gothic influences in their music. Or do you think that everything sad is gothic? I suppose this article was written by some popular music fan (including metal, gothic and so on), who was not in touch with musical traditions extremly different from European. --HeavyWave 17:48, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
Yes, DCD was goth. Quintessentially so. The first few albums were very much in the gothic vein and goths loved them. I'm not sure what you think a "gothic influence" would be. But "In power we entrust the love advocated" or "Black sun" would be adornments in any goth band's oeuvre -- they have the Romantic sweep and melancholy that goths adored. Goth music is by and large defined by what the goths liked rather than any particular style, but of course anything doomy or esoteric tended to be swept up in it. It's true that they moved on from it but the article says that their early work was goth, not that they were a goth band, and I think that's fair enough. I'm not sure about the "darkwave" thing. It better describes bands influenced by the early 80s goth bands than it does the bands itselves, particularly because I don't think it was term much in use then. James James 00:03, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
Absolutely disagree!! The only truth in the above is the line 'goths loved them'; Dead Can Dance came out at a time where there was a new wave (not in the new wave sense!) of bands producing a new form of music, e.g. Cocteau Twins, Xmal Deutschland, The Birthday Party, Southern death cult, Sex Gang Children, etc. Between each there were similarities, for example on many DCD tracks the drum patterns and use of floor tom instead of hi-hats and snare, is very simialr to the SDC and SGC tracks (the track 'Threshold sound like it was an early Joy Dision, Unknown Pleasures demo, apart from Gerrards vocals), but the music, especially the lyrics is quite different. Likewise the use of elaborate guitar effects, tape loops and the E bow (as on 'A passage in time) is very Cocteau-esque. Obviously these band influenced each other and goths got into DCD because of (a) the word dead in the title, and (b) the black, monochrome artistic style of the covers. Ianguy 13:31, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Dead Can Dance info box?
I was thinking that there should be a information box for Dead Can Dance and all related articles (such as the album articles). I was thinking along of the lines of the U2 box at the bottom of that page. The U2 box looks like this:
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I just altered this a little bit and added some Dead Can Dance content.
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If anyone has any suggestions feel free to edit etc. I won't put this up on the actual article (if it goes up at all) until it is complete and until there is general agreement with this. Aggelophoros 10:22, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Images
I added a new image with full copyright tagging. The other image has been removed because of undetermined copyright and usage status.Aggelophoros 23:37, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] disband/reunite ?
The article says "it disbanded temporarily in 1998 and reunited for a world tour in 2005."
Shouldn't it rather be : ""it disbanded in 1998 and reunited temporarily for a world tour in 2005" ? Lisa Gerrard recently said that they were never going to record new material together under the name Dead Can Dance.Clodomir17 12:03, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Darkwave
Why exactly is this omitted in the infobox? It's what most newcomers to the band are told DCD plays, and the article itself mentions it. I'm adding it, along with "early" in (). Ours18 01:28, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Glossolalia
"Dead Can Dance would take ancient or various musics from around the world as primary sources, with Gerrard singing glossolalia"
Is this a correct use of the word 'glossolalia'? It's hard to tell what the writer was intending although I feel that melismatic might be a more appropriate adjective.
Both would actually make sense. Many (most) of the songs sang by Lisa don't have words. She has said in some interviews that she likes to makes sounds and let these carry the emotions. But she does fluctuate the pitch on those sounds too... Lordhong 16:01, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Link to "Echoes" interviews
I am restoring the link to the free "Echoes" interview page. This is an important reliable third party resource by one of the leading ambient music radio shows on US public radio, and it provides insights on the subject of this article that are, to my knowledge, not available anywhere else. --Gene_poole 21:38, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Link to "Echoes" interviews
I am restoring the link to the free "Echoes" interview page. This is an important reliable third party resource by one of the leading ambient music radio shows on US public radio, and it provides insights on the subject of this article that are, to my knowledge, not available anywhere else. --Gene_poole 21:39, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
- When the host of the show, Jdiliberto, mass adds links, it is WP:SPAM and WP:COI) IrishGuy talk 21:41, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
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- I'm adding them, and I'm not the host. If you can find an alternative series of interviews from an alternative free, reliable third party source, then please add them.--Gene_poole 21:50, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
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- (to Irish Guy) Not necessarily. WP:BITE and WP:AGF are also important guidelines, perhaps even more important than either WP:SPAM or WP:COI. Are the links relevant for the articles? If the links were added by any other user, would there be a problem? And besides, five links hardly constitute "mass" adding links. Each of the links was to different content that was pertinent to article. older ≠ wiser 21:53, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Cover songs
This section needs to be redone, taken away or moved to a discography page (or something similar - doubt it would be fitted for a standalone page). It's incomplete and gives the feeling that some covers have more importance than others (ie, why list 3 of the Lotus Eaters songs and not the rest, giving the sense that they have more significance than the rest?). It doesn't seem neutral at all, and to make it neutral, all covers (within scope of knowledge) should be listed... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.226.218.130 (talk) 21:38, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
