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I will be editing the map if the map isn't correct, I would rather see a map that is not there, than wrong. Not ALL US states use capital punishment, when you look at this map, it looks like they do. Liquinn (talk) 20:52, 17 December 2007 (UTC) New Jersey state has banned the death penality on 17th December 2007. Sources are news. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Liquinn (talk • contribs) 17:25, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

This map is wrong. This map says that Hawaii and Alaska and some other states have abolished the death penality, when in this map it states that ALL U.S states use the death penality, when in the below map is correct.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Death_penalty_statutes_in_the_United_States.svg Liquinn 00:40, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Great Britain

Shouldn't Great Britain Be coloured Green? Death by beheading is still the official punishment for High treason. Cianmccann 20:30, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Not any more. They changed that in 98. In fact international treaties that the whole EU has signed end even the theoretical death penalty within the EU. I think Latvia therefore needs to be changed to blue. 02hurnella (talk) 17:54, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

And I checked that. Look @ the wikipedia article on "capital punishment in the united kingdom" 02hurnella (talk) 18:00, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

~It says Belaurs have abolished it in practice. LOL... - 212.247.27.196

Now, it is abolished in the Phillipines.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.247.27.196 (talk • contribs).

there is no current death penalty Alaska, Hawaii and some other states in the US, please fix the map. --Haham hanuka 19:25, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
But there is the death penalty at US Federal Government level in these places. Evil Monkey∴Hello 03:34, Apr 9, 2005 (UTC)
Yes, but in The United States, our federal government is an entirely separate body than the States. For example, the death penalty is gone de facto in Oregon and Delaware, abolished in Massachusetts and Minnesota. And as for it being legal on the Federal level, there has been one execution on the Federal level in the past 50 years. This map is a clear example of how most of the world doesn't understand how The United States operate. R'son-W 05:41, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
I don't think that's it. The death penalty is legal at the federal level. There is a separate map covering the specific states. In fact, there was a federal execution in 2000 (the first since 1963), so this map is accurate - but only because it has the states map alongside it. --Southpaw018 11:50, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
Federalism my friend. But the legalization of the death penalty in the US is predominant, so the map is okay as is, just someone make note that it's not legal in all states. Эйрон Кинни (t) 10:39, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
I really feel the need to address my opinion regarding this - I think the states in the U.S. that have no death penalty should be blue - First of all, the federal government conducts very, very few executions in the U.S., and two (more importantly), you CANNOT be executed for a crime that you commit solely in, say, Michigan. In order for you to be convicted of murder in the federal system, you have to have crossed state lines. The result of this is that nobody has ever been executed, as far as I know, in a state that does not have the death penalty (at least not since it was abolished in those states). Because all the states without the death penalty are mostly clumped together for some reason, it shouldn't be too hard to make some sort of adjustment... I agree the map needs to have something making note of this -- perhaps interlaced blue and red lines? --Shadowlink1014 18:23, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Green means abolished for ordinary crimes? Where is death penalty given for ordinary crimes? --Just my 2 cents -- Hemanshu 19:19, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

  • I've added some clarification to this one. Evil Monkey∴Hello 21:36, Apr 10, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] POV colors

I hesitate to bring this up because I think the debate will rapidly become silly. OK, hesitation is over. I think the choice of colors on this map is POV. The reason for my claim is self-explanatory. Tempshill 23:10, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

Sorry about the late reply. An interesting point. I'm guessing that your issue is that countries that use the death penalty are red, while the ones that have completely abolished are blue. How would you feel if maybe we swapped the colours around? The colours were chosen by user:IceKarma as they mean that a colourblind person can tell the difference between the various countries. So in that respect I am against changing them to say shades of pink (to pick a neutral colour). POVness of colours was also brought up at Image:Gaymap.PNG, where Pro-homosexuality is green and anti-homosexuality is red. One thing to remember is that this map is used on many other language Wikipedias. Changing the colours will mean having to fix all the other Wikipedia's captions. Evil Monkey∴Hello 00:15, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)
POV colours were the first thing that struck me about this map as well. Ultiam 05:57, 9 October 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Map ease of use

The above-mentioned Image:Gaymap.PNG has a table which explains what all the colors stand for. The Death Penalty map, as the image by itself, does not have any such key. I think this is a real weakness that can be easily remedied.

I've avoided adding a key so that the map can be used on other language Wikipedias without the need to have an image for every language Wikipedia. This way we only need one image on Commons. Evil Monkey∴Hello 22:40, July 17, 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Link

For those folks who like to stay up to date, here you go: http://web.amnesty.org/pages/deathpenalty-countries-eng Zscout370 (Sound Off) 02:11, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Philippines

Can anyone update the map. DP is now abolished in the Philippines- 23prootie 15 June 2006 (UTC)

which color should it be then? blue green or orange? as they are all forms of being abolished --Astrokey44 08:28, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
Blu, I guess... They changed the maximum punishment ot life imprisonment. --23prootie 23:40, 22 June 2006 (UTC)23prootie
ok its been updated --Astrokey44 00:14, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Albania should be blue now.

Albania has also abolished totally. JLogan 22:02, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Fixed. --Shadowlink1014 23:34, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rwanda

Rwanda recently abolished the death penalty in order to gain extradition of suspects who fled to Europe suspected of war crimes for the ethnic cleansing and genocide that took place during the Hutu-Tutsi conflict.

See also the source here: [1]. Béka 18:32, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
I've made the change. --Shadowlink1014 18:59, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Turkey

This map has it abolished for all crimes. I'm fairly sure that's not true - wasn't it just a few years ago they put to death a PKK terrorist? The Evil Spartan 21:24, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Was abolished in 2004, last execution was in 1984.[2] So no, don't know what you mean. Maybe it was more of a general killing in the war rather than something judical? - J Logan t: 21:15, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Western Sahara

Shouldn't Western Sahara be orange? The Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic may have abolished the death penalty but it only exercises de facto control over 20% of the territory (almost entirely desert), whereas Morocco has de facto control over most of it, recognized by most of the countries of the world. --Blisco (talk) 13:45, 17 January 2008 (UTC)