Talk:De La Salle Secondary School, N.T.

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Please do not move the article again. N.T. is her official name. — HenryLi (Talk) 02:08, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Even if N.T. is the school's official name it still needs (Hong Kong) as a location parameter Adam McCormick 18:27, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

True, per WP:NC(S) —Travis^talk 20:32, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

False, per WP:NC(S). It is a unique title. If you have read the in the nutshell. "The general form for a disambiguated school article title is: [[School Name (Location)]]." But, there is no ambiguity on the name De La Salle Secondary School, N.T.. It is a unique title. The format follows Unique school article title [[School Name]]. — HenryLi (Talk) 02:45, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Unique does not mean every character is unique, it is a question of whether someone might stumble onto this page looking for another or not be able to find this one. There are over fifty schools on schools with De La Salle in the name so this name is hardly unique. Adding NT does not change this. You should also have a look at WP:OWN and realize that this is a community and consensus rules. Argue your case for this being the only "De La Salle Secondary School" and then remove the tag. Adam McCormick 03:54, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

You are creating a new meaning of "unique". The N.T. in official name already identify that it is unique. If you logic applies, Apple, Inc. should be re-titled to Apple, Inc. (United States of America) because Apple is not unique. While accusing others not following your "consensus", you should re-think about "WP:OWN" on your idea, adding every school contained "De La Salle" in parenthesised place name. What's the point adding extra parenthesis and text while there is no name conflict? Your idea simply does not follow the consensus of WP:NC(S). — HenryLi (Talk) 15:18, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

It's not the same thing. there are only two companies on Wikipedia called "Apple" there are fifty schools called "De La Salle." I understand that you don't see a name conflict so I'll put this to you, would anyone, anywhere, ever refer to this school as "De La Salle Secondary School"? If so then it needs to be disambiguated and the location parameter is the form called for by WP:NC(S). Adam McCormick 18:04, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

No, I can tell you that people does not refer De La Salle Secondary School, N.T. as De La Salle Secondary School or even De La Salle. They call it 新界喇沙 (lit. N.T. La Salle) in Cantonese or DLSSSNT in short. There is absolutely no ambiguity. In wikipedia, there is no other school named "De La Salle Secondary School, N.T.". The example in WP:NC(S) clearly depicts what ambiguity is, that is "Example of two articles with the same official school name", "[[John F. Kennedy High School (Warren, Ohio)]], [[John F. Kennedy High School (Montgomery County, Maryland)]]". Both official names are exactly the same, i.e. "John F. Kennedy High School". Your given reason do not follow the rule in WP:NC(S). You have not yet given a plausible reason adding extra parenthesis and text. — HenryLi (Talk) 00:30, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Adam, you missed the point what ambiguous is De La Salle, not the school's official name. Under Wikipedia convention, if two titles are in conflict, a disambiguity page is created and inside the page it links to various items. There should be a disambiguity page of De La Salla linking to various De La Salla institutes. It is not necessary to change article titles unless something exactly names De La Salle. WP:NC(S) clearly show that disamiguity rule applies only when two school's office name are exact the same. It is not the case here. Can you distinguish between two? — HenryLi (Talk) 00:53, 12 July 2007 (UTC)