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[edit] Welcome

Hello there Dcljr, welcome to the 'pedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you need pointers on how we title pages visit Wikipedia:Naming conventions or how to format them visit our manual of style. If you have any other questions about the project then check out Wikipedia:Help or add a question to the Village pump. BTW, nice work in the statistics section esp. outlier. Cheers! --maveric149

[edit] Format of Suggested Religion Outline: Thanks!

Thanks for your suggestion on the format of my draft outline in Talk:Religion#Discussion of Re-organization of Religion. I think I did what you suggested. By the way, welcome to Wikipedia, the nerve center of the civilized world! I see that Mav's welcome was back in 2002; so welcome again in 2004! --Rednblu 04:56, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Sexual slang

Isn't anal intercourse a form of sexual intercourse? Secretlondon 04:26, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

yes that looks fine. Secretlondon 04:48, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Great. Thanks for the note. Hyacinth 06:52, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

You're doing great work on the Sexual slang article. Your reorganizations have made the article a great read and very worthy of the Wikipedia. -- Stevietheman 14:03, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I made it a subtitle. I didn't want it to appear that I was disagreeing with "encyclopedization" or that you're edits weren't, so I gave it a new header. What I did was make it a subsection, feel free to change the format to your suggestion if you think that will be more clear. Thanks for the message and happy editing. Hyacinth 02:52, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] In progress

Currently (August 2004) working on: User:Dcljr/Statistics - dcljr

Moved info about current projects to User:Dcljr. - dcljr 23:21, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] External Links

Hi Dcjlr,

Don't use external links where we want Wikipedia links

The basic concept is that we want an in-line text link to point to another Wikipedia article, not an external article, the exception when we link with the [1] style, which shows it is a reference link. Cheers! Cecropia | Talk 21:26, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Moving (Renaming) articles

When you want to rename an article, please use the "move" tab at the top of your screen. Doing it that way ensures that the edit history remains with the article. When you cut and paste the entire article, the history stays with the old article name. older≠wiser 23:09, 2 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] list of publications in science

Hi dcljr,

I accept the changes you suggested. It does look better. Actually, the first format was a table, which was much worse. It seems that I have a gift for choosing bad designs. I won't have time to work on the lists in the near future, so feel free to make the changes.

Templates seem to be a good idea but I'm not familiar with them. How can we use them?

Thanks, APH 05:09, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Characters

<nowiki>&</nowiki> does not work, e.g. <nowiki>&</nowiki>lt; gives <

--Patrick 08:22, 21 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Clinton note

Thanks for the note on the Clinton article. I'll leave it to other editors to fix anything that seems inappropriate. Acsenray 20:07, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I don't know whether you noticed -- seems like someone did object mightily to my addition (as you predicted!). I did some rewriting to tone it down and requested comments. I've inserted the changes into the article, but no one has said anything yet. (There seems to be a firestorm over the quote section right now.) Anyway, I was wondering whether you might want to take a peek. Acsenray 17:37, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] List of albums

Hi. The albums haven't disappeared. They've just moved to subpages. For example, the ones starting with A are now at List of albums (A). I don't see any reason to revert this. Angela. 16:44, Aug 12, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Image:MenstrualCycle.png

Thanks for the compliments. I just redrew stuff I found on the internet. One of these days I will actually try to understand it ;-) -- Chris 73 | Talk 06:28, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Removal of Supreme Court decision

I deleted the source text from the article because it does not belong there and I knew that anyone interested in transwikiing it would be able to find it in the history. - SimonP 15:57, Aug 21, 2004 (UTC)
FYI: I've moved the text of the decision to Wikisource:Boynton v. Virginia. - dcljr 06:10, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Cross namespace links

Not all of the mirrors and forks of Wikipedia copy the other namespaces. If you link to the Wikipedia namespace from the main namespace using an internal link, this link will be broken on other sites. If you use the full URL, this won't be a problem. See also Wikipedia:Avoid self references. Angela. 13:23, Sep 4, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Pattern language

Hi there, I stumbled across the pattern language article you marked for attention, and it made puppy dog eyes at me until I took pity on it and became a member in order to give it some love. ;) Anyway, I think it is now somewhat clearer, though I suspect some of the content should be moved to design pattern. I'd be interested in your thoughts. Wordie 17:50, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Albert Einstein info

Hey Dcljr, thanks for the Albert Einstein info on my talk page. Jay 13:15, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Japanese actors and actresses

Hi Dcljr, No opinion on which of the two categories (Category:Japanese actors and actresses and Category:Japanese actors) should be merged into the other. Just makes sense to have one of them be the focal point for efforts. Fg2 22:39, Oct 21, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] It's not yours

Nathan, it looks like you need to get past the idea that articles you create are "your" articles. They are not. They are Wikipedia articles that can be edited by any user or visitor to Wikipedia. (See the bold text under the edit box when editing any page: "If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, do not submit it.") OTOH, I understand your frustration about your "plans" for articles being disrupted, so to avoid such problems why don't you just create articles that you'll be developing over a period of time as subpages of your user page, as I have for a few articles I'm working on. If it's under your user page, you have an absolute right, as I see it, to revert any unwanted edits. If it's in the main article namespace, however, you really don't have any standing to consider your vision for the article to be the only allowable one. - dcljr 18:35, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NathanHawking"

It's not an issue of territory. It's a matter of common sense and courtesy that the author of an article which is clearly "under construction" should not have to deal with massive changes to his or her fledgling efforts within minutes or hours of a first draft--especially without discussion.
Those who believe that clobbering a new article falls under the "edited mercilessly" should be prepared to have their edits "edited mercilessly" by reversion then, correct? What's sauce for the goose.--NathanHawking 21:24, 2004 Oct 30 (UTC)

[edit] Deletionism

I saw your village pump article about all human knowledge. If you want to save knowledge from being deleted you may want to join: Association_of_Inclusionist_Wikipedians. I also have an idea that deletion votes should occur once a year, and things that are nonvandalism that gets 'deleted' should be moved to another Wiki, someone called it Wikitrivia (trivial stuff that is human knowledge but not 'encyclopedic' what ever that means :)). --ShaunMacPherson 03:35, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Culture of Greece

Culture of Greece is this week's Collaboration of the week. Please come and help it become a featured-standard article.

[edit] Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

OR

Option 2
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

[edit] Admin nomination

Hello. You aren't an administrator but I think you ought to be. I will nominate you if you like. You may reply here or on my talk page. Regards & happy editing, Wile E. Heresiarch 16:12, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Hmm, well, thank you for the thought, but I'm not sure I really want to be able to do any of the things admins can do. Recently I've been slowly branching out into more maintenance-related activities, but I think I should get more experience before I get into administrative activities. For now I'm happy to be just an active user. Maybe later this year I'll feel differently. Thanks again... - dcljr 20:17, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
OK, no problem. Let me know if you ever change your mind, and in the meantime, keep up the good work. Happy edits, Wile E. Heresiarch 09:08, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Revised intro for statistics

Hi again. I saw your proposal to revise the statistics intro section. It doesn't look like you actually carried out that plan -- I'd like to encourage you to go ahead since it's a definite improvement. Looks like the rest of the article would benefit from your attention too. For what it's worth, Wile E. Heresiarch 16:18, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Will respond to this in a bit... - dcljr 20:20, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Urgh... every time I try to respond, Wikipedia goes down or I run out of time. Short version: I kinda got scared away by the discussion I had on the talk page. I just plain don't agree that statistics has nothing to do with uncertainty or samples! Want to develop something more substantive before I throw it to the wolves. ;-) - dcljr 18:30, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] tagging articles

Please put templates like {{expansion}} that only are useful to editors, on talk pages (the only exception I can think of would be the different stub templates). Thank you. :) --mav 08:45, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Translate

I have put Template:Translate on WP:TFD. It was created because links to Google translations didn't used to work, but now they do, which makes the templates unecessary. More details on the problem it was created to solve can be seen in the discussion of bug 361. Angela. 15:57, Feb 20, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Should be OK

You can fix them or not fix them. I don't think anyone will get upset :-) Ta bu shi da yu 21:43, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Statistics

I've introduced an article for distribution function, which was formerly a redirect to cumulative distribution function. (The concepts are related, but distinct. You may want to update your link.)

If you use the "what links here" button to see what points to distribution function, all the links should currently be physics links. I manually redirected all the current pages that had a statistical subject so that they pointed to cumulative distribution function directly - although I'm not sure if that's the intended reference in all cases. (Some may want probability density function instead.) I also posted a note on talk:cumulative distribution function. As for your suggestion of a disambiguation page, I don't know how to make one, and settled for making the first line of distribution function a note on the topic, with pointers to a couple of other topics that might have the same name. (Oh, and I usually remember to sign my messages. Sorry for the extra legwork you had to do to find me.)SMesser 13:47, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image:BerryEsseenTheoremCDFGraphExample.png

Is Image:BerryEsseenTheoremCDFGraphExample.png, which you claim to have created, licensed under the GNU Free Documentation License? --Ellmist 19:49, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Okay, thank you. Have a nice day. --Ellmist 23:18, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Discussion moved to Image talk:BerryEsseenTheoremCDFGraphExample.png#Copyright.

(above remark by Ellmist - dcljr)

It appears you have copied my comments back to your talk page. I won't move them in the future. --Ellmist 20:39, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Milestone statistics

Thanks for your work on the milestone statistics!

You wrote: "I couldn't check Guarani, Hindi and Kannada because I don't have the right fonts on this computer." I'm sorry to hear that. I have those fonts, so I'll check those languages for you. Have a great day! David Cannon 22:24, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Interwiki Madness

Thank you for your comments on my talk page. I do try to update that list periodically - once a month, on average. In general, I don't list a wiki on that list until it becomes active, even though I may have opened an account on it. Yes, there are wikis on which I don't have counters. I DID have counters, but once in a blue moon some do-gooder sees a counter, and nothing else, on one of my user pages, thinks some crank must have put it there, and removes it. From time to time I discover the odd one. Thank you for giving me a list of the ones where you found the counter to be missing - I'll fix them now.

The depreciated wikis (Serbo-Croatian, Moldovan, and Tokipona) - I've kept the first two because there are still a few enthusiasts who are trying to keep the first one going (despite its split), there's a debate about separating Moldovan from Romanian (with some nationalists arguing that as it can be written in the cyrillic alphabet, it should qualify as a separate language, much as Hindi differs from Urdu), and Tokipona is still occupying space on the Wikimedia server, despite its having been officially shut down.

My basic reason for making that list was to have a quick and easy way to check the statistics of each language once a month, as I am one of the volunteers looking after the Wikipedia:Multilingual statistics tables. David Cannon 11:04, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Interlanguage links on user pages

It's not discouraged at all . The only reason I don't do on the English Wikipedia it is to deter vandals from vandalising my user page on wikis I don't watch that often. I do use those links on other Wikipedias though since it's an easy way to get from one wiki to related languages. See af:Gebruiker:Angela for example, which links to other African language Wikipedias . Angela.

[edit] New messages alert on subpages?

Note: Discussion below originally appeared on a talk sub-page. - dcljr

Did you get a "You have new messages" alert? FreplySpang (talk) 23:54, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

No. Bummer. Thanks though. - dcljr 00:15, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Note: This experiment verified that a message left on a subpage of a user's talk page does not generate a "new messages" alert for that user. - dcljr

[edit] Removed remark

Sorry about that, but it seemed to me that it was a rather silly remark in response to an otherwise serious discussion. What exactly was your point there? Radiant_* 10:14, May 9, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Table question

Hi, thanks for the great table tutorial. Now I have a great looking table (see it here if you're interested Talk:Myxobolus cerebralis), but I don't know how to get the article text to wrap around it, could you tell me how? Thanks --nixie 04:44, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Template

Sorry for the confusion - I need to better organize it, so that the links to the subordinate pages is clearer. I thought it was rather cumbersome as it was, and that the split was reasonable along those lines, allowing also for some added development. Thanks -SV|t 21:11, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Stub template weirdness

I notice you created {{Template:Compu-network-stub}}. I can't figure out why the "expanding it" link is screwed up in this article I just added the tag to. - dcljr 09:16, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

I can figure out why, but the fix probably isn't easy. When you write RFC 3377, it gets turned into a link; that seems to be badly iteracting with the link on the template (which is http://en.wikipedia.org../../../../articles/r/f/c/RFC_3377_5d08.html — take a look at the wiki markup for that), and closing the [] before it should be closed. You should talk about it to the Wikiproject stub sorting people — that code came from Template:metastub (it was copied to Template:compu-network-stub via subst:). --cesarb 12:03, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
FYI, this phenomenon has already been submitted to MediaZilla as a page-rendering bug. - dcljr 03:57, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
Do you have the bug #? I want to add myself to its CC: list to monitor its progress. --cesarb 11:35, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
It's Bug 1344. - dcljr 17:18, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] WikiJunior

Thanks for the head's up re naming the WikiJunior project. I really like KikiWiki or Kikipedia. Trödel|talk 02:31, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Category:2000 by month

I created the category in imitation of Category:2001 by month - if that's been deleted, I've got no objection to 2000 by month following it. Warofdreams 09:10, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] LDS title

I have no problem with changing the title. I was sticking to earlier conventions. Would you like to bring this up on the project page? (WikiProject Latter Day Saint) Jgardner 18:09, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Colonial Governors

You got me just in time because I am about to leave Wikipedia to go on a long trip. I will work on the page, though I will probably not have time to verify every single colony/territory. However, I will definitely work on it and make some updates. By the way, I noticed that you posted a message to the talk page of User:Gzornenplatz. For a variety of complicated reasons, Gzornenplatz has been banned from Wikipedia, so he won't be coming to help with the page. Academic Challenger 05:04, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] The War of the Worlds

I certainly have no problem with you moving the talk page it is probably something I should of done myself but I was unsure about merging/moving talks at that time. Although an interesting subject I have not great investment in the article I just do merges as a simple way to improve wiki in general.MeltBanana 13:32, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Template for deletion

Thanks. I havn't listed anything for deletion and I don't know the procedure for it - I assumed that if it was difficult I shouldn't be doing it and if it was easy then it wouldn't be much of a burden. Thanks again :) –MT 1 July 2005 16:24 (UTC)

[edit] It.wiki --> 50.000

If you don't believe, see here. Bye SγωΩηΣ tαlk 5 July 2005 09:40 (UTC)

[edit] CfD on 2005/2004 news

Hmmm. OK, thanks for letting me know. I think, though, that seeing as the debate appears to have gone cold, I might just leave it there as I'm not convinced by the reasonings given. Additionally, I'm not sure of the policy on re-creating a deleted cat; does it go to VfU? I've watchlisted the talk page for now, though. -Splash 17:10, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

I don't think so, since undeleting the category won't put any articles in it. I assume you'd just re-create the category and re-categorize the pages that used to be in there. - dcljr 18:48, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
That sounds reasonable, thanks. Still, since the discussion you mentioned has gone cold it's probably best not to stir it up again. -Splash 18:54, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Majority Report and Projects

Nice edits on The Majority Report. I'm working on a couple of Wikiprojects, 1) Wikipedia:WikiProject Journalism and 2) Wikipedia:WikiProject Media; both are relatively new and need more editors, maybe you might have a look. Calicocat 03:13, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, but I've kind of avoided getting into any WikiProjects up to this point. Besides, those aren't the areas I'm most interested in, so I probably wouldn't be very involved in them anyway. Good luck, though... - dcljr 04:40, 18 July 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Table Question

Hi Dcljr, I wonder if you could answer a question. I saw your user page explaining tables, which is very cool. Since you appear to be an expert on these matters, I wonder if you could tell me how to center align the contents of a cell using wiki table markup. The numbers across the top of the periodic table of elements should be centered, so they appear to line up correctly, which they do not currently. -asx-

There are several ways, but the easiest in this case is just to use header cells, which are automatically centered and in bold, by using "!" instead of "|" at the beginning of those lines. I've made this change to Periodic table (standard), so you can check out the difference between versions to see what I did. - dcljr 06:54, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
Another way, if you just want the alignment and not bold text, is to use align="center", which can be applied to a single cell or a whole row (see my Alignment, width and height example). Unfortunately, the commentary on that page hasn't really been finished as I lost interest after a while. My initial inspiration, the horrible state of table wiki code documentation, has been partially remedied now. It's still kinda rough, though... - dcljr 07:08, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
Cool, thank you very much! I'll have to read up on wiki rules. I'm an old hand with HTML, but don't know wiki code very well... Thanks again, -asx- 16:52, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Rove "talk" archive

All's well that ends with a good archive. :-) See comment in Rove Talk section as well. Thanks for helping it get done and, again, I'm sorry if I sounded a bit short and thanks for the message. Calicocat 22:11, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Traitor!!! ;-) The article is now protected mostly due to some Anon user going crazy. I've tried to follow the model you set up for doing the housekeeping on the article. I have more hope for Plame affair, which is still going along rather well; any input there would be welcome. My best, Calicocat 05:45, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] problem with tables in mozilla

when i draw tables n arabic/urdu the context of the table tends to appear opposite to the table. example ur:Template:Infobox Governor this problem is only with mozilla ,ie works fine help me please WiseSabre 03:17, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

The problem is probably that Arabic is written right-to-left instead of left-to-right. Do you have the same problem in Hebrew (Sandbox at Hebrew wiki)? Sorry, I don't know how to fix this problem, but you can probably ask about it at m:Help talk:Table or m:Meta:Babel. - dcljr 05:31, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Multilingual statistics

Hi there! I haven't had time to upload them yet - will try to get around to it in the next 48 hours. I've downloaded them. I do that manually - on the first day of every month, I manually check all 200 Wikipedias. I then put the stats in a microsoft excel spreadsheet, compute them, and copy the data to the relevant tables. You'll see the results over the weekend :-) David Cannon 21:24, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Latter Day Saint Movement

Don't get discouraged -- things sometimes move erraticly in the project, sometimes very slowly and then we all hurry up and do things. Several of our more active contributors are on extended breaks from Wiki, including the originator of the decade pages -- and we are all looking forward to their return. The project conventions on LDS related names had been decided before I've arrived, but there have been some variants discussed and used while I've been here. I suspect that the editor/group will probably make some changes, particularly in the decade pages.

And, by the way, why aren't you a member of the project? There is always plenty of work to do, and we welcome all types of Latter Day Saints as well as people from other backgrounds. Please think about it. I would look forward to working with you. WBardwin 01:31, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Science pearls

Hello,

Since you contributed in the past to the publications’ lists, I thought that you might be interested in this new project. I’ll be glad if you will continue contributing. Thanks,APH 10:42, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Soory!

i'm really very very sorry. i didnt followed the post, at that time i was very new to wikipedia.
RTL languages sure have problems in mozilla this page also has problem in mozilla. some times text seems to be out of order and tables inverted (i couldnt find any table hebrew wiki). الثاقب (WiseSabre| talk) 17:26, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Harmony

On David B. Harmony, I'm pretty sure I was going to flesh that out and got distracted. I'll go back and add more. For naval officers, I tend to add an article if they were included in Appleton's (famousamericans.net/davidbharmony), figuring if they were notable enough for them.... Thanks for reminding me that I need to work on his article. Jinian 17:22, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Can you take a look at "fair comment"?

Especially since you are a math tutor it would be intereting to have your thought on this.

In my 3rd observation I point out logical inconsistantcies in the last paragraph of the newest version.

As you can see the atmosphere in this talkpage is quite charged but if you can make some comments on the validity of my observations it would help the article tremendously.

I will not make changes on the article itself. In fact I never edited the article after I created it.

The creation of the article came as a byproduct in my efforts in a diskussion on another article to establish that "fair comment" is a legal term. I was subsequently accused of mischaracterising the actual meaning of "fair comment"... In the post I have linked I also defend myself against this allegation therefore it is not essential for you to actually read the whole post.

Just a comment if my logic was flawed would be enough (and why of course)...

Thank you in advance

--Zirkon 12:58, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Well, since (1) I don't know anything about the topic, (2) it is a very long talk page that I'd rather not try to read and understand in its entirety, and (3) you've asked for and received comments from others already, I'd rather not get involved. I hope others can help. - dcljr 21:13, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] ISO 3166-1

Feel free to add your support to get the ISO 3166-1 nominated in the featured lists: click here. Bart l 18:17, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Woodward

Thanks for the note, DCL. Your page looks good to me. It looks like I started my page, but never finished it or bothered to connect it to the other pages. Sometimes that happens, I start a page and then get called back to real life. I'm not sure what Wikipedia's policy is on naming disambiguation pages. I tend to like the word disambiguation in the title so that there is no mistaking what kind of page it is. So if you want to use the disambiguation page title, then just delete my stuff. I assume you've checked to see if I found any that you didn't. I looked yours over; it looks complete. Good work. SDC 02:54, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

If the convention is not to use "disambiguation" in the title, then go with that. For me, I prefer to have it there, but this is hardly a big point. Also, do you think it's a good idea to mention the last name Woodard? I got tripped up on that one once when I was looking up Alfre Woodard. If you go with your page title, to be thorough, you'd want to delete the disambiguation page. But it would be easier just to redirect for now. I'll leave it to you. SDC 03:20, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Golden Raspberry Awards

I'm not sure exactly what you want me to do here. I don't think it would be an improvement to use a sort key to put all the articles under "Golden Raspberry" instead of "19xx Golden Raspberry".-gadfium 01:35, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

(my reply) ...Not in Category:Golden Raspberry Awards itself, but in Category:1980, Category:1981, etc. Like I said, if this has already been done, nevermind. - dcljr 01:40, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
Sorry for being obtuse. All but a few did use a sort key, and I've fixed those that didn't.-gadfium 01:48, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Years in archaeology

Hi Dcjlr I created that category in rather a hurry to clear out the year articles that were clogging up Category:Archaeology. I'm sorry to say I wasn't aware of the conventions you linked to. I will add that to my mental list of things to do, but given that changing them doesn't add any new information to the wiki and given what a pain it was to re-categorise them all in the first place, I'm afraid it's not something I see as a priority at the moment. Are there no plans to automate category management on the wiki, because it is sorely needed? adamsan 22:37, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Please comment on the current Math Collaboration of the Week

hello Dcljr - since you listed statistics as an interest in your user talk, I was hoping you could lend your expertise to the current Mathematics Collaboration of the Week: Multiple Comparisons. Obviously it's a interesting and important topic. We are also in the midst of a discussion as to the distinction between multiple comparisons and multiple testing. Your thoughts would be much appreciated. Let's get another math article up on the front page! Thanks for any help. Debivort 10:10, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Noinclude on Milestone statistics page

Can you please explain the purpose of the "noinclude" part of this line

<noinclude>[[fr:modèle:Statistiques des Wikipédias]]</noinclude>

which you added to Wikipedia:Milestone statistics? - dcljr 06:48, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

This is an Interlanguage links. "Noinclude" prevents the link to be displayed when the page is included, for example here : Wikipedia:Multilingual_statistics#Number_of_article_milestones--Teofilo talk 10:46, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CfD

Thanks for the heads up. I struck out my votes and left a message on Ronald20's talk page. Hopefully this was just a mistake of some sort, but we'll have to see what he says about it. siafu 02:24, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Clarissa

Thank you so much for pointing that out! I never recalled a date, but the show was 15 years ago, so if you can edit my sentence...or take it out entirely, I'd appreciate it. Mike H. That's hot 08:06, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Subpage

I hadn't seen that page--thanks for pointing it out! I found another, too, when I went to look. Demi T/C 17:00, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SAS dab link

I routinely check for links to the SAS dab page. Your statistics sub-page contains such a link. I didn't correct it due to the request at the top of the page. --Pagrashtak 00:38, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Random translation request

Awards and thankings

2002 award

Dcljr participates in work of Serbian Wikipedia, though he is not Serbian Wikipedian, that is Serbian Wikipedianesse. This is why to this person work on other Wikipedias counts as well.

Basically, it's an award granted to everyone who is not Serb but participates on Serbian Wikipedia. Nikola 08:05, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ABD

Maybe you should check the link to ABD on your user page... 81.244.202.115 19:10, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Special:Listusers

I am contacting a few choice editors, meaning you :-), in hoping that you may help me in a suggestion I have. I am proposing that the Special:Listusers page be broken up into Users and indefinantly blocked/vandal accounts. I want to know your input on my suggestion. — Moe ε 16:06, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Special:Listusers already gives the option(s) to list bots, sysops, bureaucrats, stewards, developers, users with checkuser status, and two other types of users I'm not familiar with. I assume you'd be requesting that one or two other "groups" be provided: banned/blocked users and possibly regular users (none of the above)? If so, I guess I'd support that. Not sure where this should be discussed/proposed... I'd say Wikipedia talk:Special pages, but that sees hardly any actual discussion. Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) is probably better. — Whoops, I see you've already done that. - dcljr 05:49, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Touching

I can assure you that editing a page (and not changing anything) and then saving will be a null edit (see Help:Null_edit#Null_edit) - and nothing will show up in the history. If you find an example I would be very interested.--Commander Keane 23:45, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you very much !

I was very upset yesterday.I have difficulties with editing and I was wondering may be deliting it till I learn all about "wikipipeding".... Thanks again.Zulka 12:15, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Over Dispersion

You mention overdispersion on your statistics page (among many other things). FYI I have mentioned the term under poisson regression. BrendanH 22:03, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Multilingual statistics - colour change

Yes, I'm happy to change the colour - I think aqua is better. I'll get around to it in the next 48 hours - right now I'm too busy just uploading all the latest statistics (plus adding a few more languages to the tables). But I'll do it - thanks for the suggestion.

[edit] hola

hola! thanks for the help, i will ask if more is needed:) Joshh 22:55, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE: The quick brown fox jumps over a lazy dog

In answer to your query, it was not a "guess". It was merely a factual observation. From a corporate point of view, a non-threatening phrase is "preferrable" to a controversial one. Period. I didn't say that it was necessarily the ONLY innoffensive phrase, just that it was better than many others. If you want to see what I mean, check out the other pangrams and you'll note that some of them are simply too offensive or aggressive to be included in any piece of mass-market software. Note that I wasn't making a specific statement in regards to a *specific*, documented decision that you can point to. It is just a very simple statement made on basic marketing principles, meant to modestly educate the reader so that they can understand the coporate standpoint that Microsoft was coming from. LearningKnight 20:37, 18 March 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Kanji: "Good Enough?"

I think you must have been joking when you suggested nominating Kanji for featured article status in November last year. The article is apallingly written. I've cleaned it up a little, but it's still not "featured article" material. Bathrobe 04:34, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Thank you, Dcljr, this is the easiest to follow tables reference for wiki markup that I've found. >>sparkit|TALK<< 22:43, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] MediaWiki:Prefs-help-email

You recently changed MediaWiki:Prefs-help-email to read (added text in bold):

* E-mail (optional): Enables others to e-mail you from your user or user talk page, without revealing your e-mail address. It will be revealed when you use the "E-mail this user" feature. Please note that if you change your e-mail address, you will need to reconfirm your address.

When I read this recently, I thought it was a mistake because it seemed self-contradictory ("will the address be revealed or won't it?"). A better wording might be something like:

* E-mail (optional): Allows us to e-mail your password to you if you forget it. If you also "Enable e-mail from other users", then others can e-mail you from your User or User talk page by using the "E-mail this user" feature. Note that the sender's e-mail address will be visible to the recipient. If you change your e-mail address, you will need to reconfirm your address.

It's more wordy, but less susceptible to misinterpretation, I think. - dcljr (talk) 04:46, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it's better. I changed it to your suggestion. I knew my changes did not have a good enough wording, which is why I asked on the Village pump for a better wording before doing the change; unfortunately, nobody suggested any change. --cesarb 16:08, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, the old text is back which totally confused me so I found this discussion and by reading the revised text above I am now more secure about entering my email address. Tonyfv 00:49, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Moving Peanuts to Peanuts (comic strip)

Hi. I think anyone can do this move and swap the two ends of a redirect, but only if the target has a trivial page history: Help:Moving a page#Moving over a redirect. LambiamTalk 20:29, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] conan.wikicities.com is now conan.wikia.com

Soon enough? I think I got them all. --Ant 21:46, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wording issues again

A user left a message on my talk page about the wording of MediaWiki:Emailforlost (I figure that's what he was talking about, even though he's following up on our discussion of MediaWiki:Prefs-help-email, the wording of which hasn't changed since you took my suggestion back in April). So I'd like to suggest a change to MediaWiki:Emailforlost, also (my edit in bold): "* E-mail address is optional; no confirmation is required. However, giving your e-mail address allows other users to send you mail, and enables you to request password reminders. We won't reveal your address to anyone, unless you use the "E-mail this user" feature to send mail to another user." A little redundant, perhaps, but I think it drives the point home a little more clearly. - dcljr (talk) 05:51, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

While I'm also not sure what he's talking about, I've implemented your change. It's not redundant; someone might interpret "using the feature" as "enabling the reception of email", and not only as "sending email", and your change clearly points to which of those two interpretations is what is meant. --cesarb 15:34, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Elyse Sewell quote

You "uncensored" the profanity-laden rant in the article on Elyse Sewell. I believe it was originally added in censored form because that's how the show presented it. Is it publicly available anywhere in uncensored form? (The DVD release, perhaps?) If not, we may want to keep the censored version. - dcljr (talk) 09:08, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

I "uncensored" it purely based on what was extremely likely to have been bleeped, given the letters that were provided. I haven't actually watched the DVD release, so I suppose it would be better to keep it censored. Coltonblue 01:29, 18 June 2006 (UTC)Coltonblue

[edit] Wikipediae

Fixed, thanks. Ral315 (talk) 12:47, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Signpost RSS

Ral315 set up the RSS feed, so he's the one to talk to, I believe. I don't have access and wouldn't know what to do anyway, so that's part of why it's not on the current issue, since I've had to fill in for him this week and possibly next. Sorry I can't help, hopefully he can straighten it out when he's back. --Michael Snow 16:50, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Color images

I responded to your question here: [1]

[edit] html tables

I would find it helpful if you showed the what the pipes stood for in html in your first table Sweecoo 23:12, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why's the Mobile phone article protected -- a guess

I don't know the answer for sure but I'm guessing it's because that article has been a spam magnet. Just a guess. --A. B. 01:54, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Mobile phone has been unprotected, lets see what happens. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 20:28, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Changes to Taxi

I've modified the changes you made to the disambiguation page Taxi, and just wanted to let you know why. The Manual of Style for disambiguation pages describes how disambiguation pages should be laid out, and standardizes this. The introductory line should be bolded, not italicized (see MoS:DP#Introductory_line), and when there are longers lists of things, such as on this disambiguaiton page, only the subject need be bolded (see MoS:DP#Longer_lists). If you have any questions about the changes or about disambiguation pages in general, feel free to ask! -- Natalya 18:51, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Statistics

Hello, Dcljr!

On the off chance that you're still interested in working on the statistics article, I'll be glad to help you push a more rigorous approach. Oh – I have about 30 years' experience as an actuary. So I probably have more of an "applied statistician" bent than you'd like to see. On the other hand, I have had lots of arguments with other actuaries because I do not hesitate to criticize their methods as unscientific when fundamental rules of rigor in analysis – or objectivity in data collection procedures – are violated. Eventually I became more or less disgusted with the whole crew. So maybe we could have some fun together.

Have a great day!  ;^> DavidCBryant 01:25, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I'm nominating "Watt (disambig)" for deletion

Please note: I am nominating Watt (disambig) for deletion.
You are shown in the history as having edited this page.
If you wish to object, check the details by clicking the link above.

Regards, JohnI 18:35, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Comparison of Windows and Linux

Hey, I see that you helped out in the article. Thanks :) A few of us work on the article a little bit every few days, and as a result we often miss the small stuff. Please feel free to join in the discussions and keep editing the page if you would like. Welcome. Hendrixski 22:12, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Table of divisors at Afd

Table of divisors has been nominated for deletion. The history and talk page shows you are the main contributer to the current version so I thought you should be notified. PrimeHunter 22:09, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of List of guests on The Majority Report

List of guests on The Majority Report, an article you created, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that List of guests on The Majority Report satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of guests on The Majority Report and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of List of guests on The Majority Report during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Realkyhick 04:58, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Two floating tables?

Followed a link from MediaWiki to Help:Table the found your page about redoing the table page. On the off chance you might know, have a question on layout and dealing with tables, if you don't mind? What I am trying to do is get two separate tables, one landscape across the page that then butts up against the second which is portrait on the right. For the life of me, can't work out how to do this. Starting to think it isn't, as all the examples I find that are something similar use two cells in a table row, which isn't appropriate for this set up. Any insight, if you happen to have any, would be greatly appreciated. Have asked on MW, but no response to date (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Support_desk#Floating_tables) - mw:Dr DBW

Short answer: I don't know. Longer answer: See mw:User talk:Dr DBW. - dcljr (talk) 20:25, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the pointer. Gives me something to check out and see if that can fix it :-) Thanks. --130.194.13.104 04:50, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fashionable Nonsense

I saw your name on the talk page. I'd like some feedback on how it's going now. ThanksMarkAnthonyBoyle 18:18, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Replied at User talk:MarkAnthonyBoyle#More Fashionable Nonsense. - dcljr (talk) 18:08, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip! :-) MarkAnthonyBoyle 21:59, 4 October 2007 (UTC)


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