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Nice article about the chemistry journal. Have fun! 82.169.159.161 11:36, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Good work on the journals. Very good. Maybe add some references?? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 11:38, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Warnings

[edit] June 2007

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For more details, please read the Conflict of Interest guideline. Thank you. --h2g2bob (talk) 13:51, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright status of Journal of Physical Organic Chemistry

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Also nominated

--h2g2bob (talk) 14:20, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WARNING

All of the work you are doing will be wasted unless you either

    • Give us a license as explained above -- note that this must be a GFDL license, permitting all use by anyone, even commercial use.
    • Rewrite the articles to acvoid using text from the page; see pages for other journals for the sort of thing to say
    • Please ask me on YOUR talk page if there are any question or problems. I will see it.
    • You are making it much harder to have articles on these journals if you do it this way--it will be much more complicated to rewrite them properly. -- ' it may affect all Wiley journals

To prevent further copyright violation your account has ben blocked, but you can still leave a message on your own user page, or email me from mine.

DGG 15:20, 14 June 2007 (UTC)


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DGG 15:35, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Categories

The accepted way to handle the linking between the different journals of a publisher is not to link them all to each others, which is much too hard to maintain when one adds a title, nor to link them to the article for the publisher, which is also hard to maintain when it changes name, but rather to make a category, which adds them automatically: according to the rules for categories, this would be  :Category:John Wiley & Sons, and should be placed by pasting [[Category:John Wiley & Sons]] at the foot of each page. I've fixed all of the existing pages. DGG 03:46, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Abbreviations

The title abbreviations to be used in the infobox for chemistry journals are the CASSI standard abbreviations as used by Chemical Abstracts Service. Please don't use the short acronyms that you use in your web site or your catalogs, they are not appropriate here. I leave it to you to go back and change them all, when the block goes off. While you're at it, you can add the name and institution of the present editor in chief of each journal to the text, and also the 2005 impact factor. DGG 04:01, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

I was asked by the Marketing Manager for Wiley Chemistry journals to add all of her titles to Wikipedia, because she noticed that most of them were on your "List of missing journals" and she wanted to help fill in the blanks. I actually work for John Wiley & Sons and so I did actually have permission to use the text that was in the articles because we own the copyright. They were based on the Aims and Scope of each of the journals which we feel isn't biased but merely a statement that explains what the journal covers and hopes to achieve. The link from the site you gave earlier has actually taken our text from the Wiley InterScience page and used it on their site.

If you feel that we shouldn't be adding these journals ourselves as it's a conflict of interest, can you recommend another way? Would it be better if the Editor of the journal created the entry instead? Dchambers101 10:03, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Officially, we discourage COI, but you are right that in practice it does help build up articles, especially in areas were we don't quite have enough interested editors. So there is no reason why you cannot add pages, but be aware that they will be very closely examined. Therefore they should stay unquestionably within the rules, which I'd like to explain further.
  1. It's frequent for people expert at the customary sorts of advertising and publicity to feel a little out of place when working here; I & some others have worked with a fair number by now, getting them used to our style and requirements.
  2. What we want from articles describing journals (and other products) is a description of he product, with some sort of reference. We do not want material talking in general terms about how good it is or who should buy it. We want information only, not persuasion. The editor actually has a conflict of interest also, although that may not be noticed as easily since it will be one at a time. I may notice, since I try to examine all new journal articles.
But I don't think you're clear yet about the rules:
  1. You must explicitly donate the copyright for every page and for every image, using the forms as listed on WP:Copyright. Each time you need to ay that you are authorized to do so, and that you donate the text under GFDL, with no restrictions on its use. Read the GFDL license first--this means that the text you release can be copied and used and modified by anyone, even for commercial use--it's essentially the same as putting it in the public domain, except that there's a link back to where it came from. It is not reversible. But you may not want to use the text:
  2. Only factual language is acceptable describing the journal. You can list its principal field. For the journal that had sections I did this by listing the 4 sections. The usual paragraph on its aims is considered advertising copy, as is a broad listing of all the related fields of science. Similarly saying that it will be of interest to all researchers in chemistry (etc). Taking for example the version of Asia-Pacific Journal of Chemical Engineering, I'll explain in italics.

"The Asia-Pacific Journal of Chemical Engineering (usually abbreviated as APJ), is a peer-reviewed scientific journal, published since 2006 by John Wiley & Sons. In six issues per year, OK so far it publishes high quality papers and special topic issues in chemical-engineering related and specialised areas.all journals say they publish high quality papers; all journals with chemical engineering in the title cover chemical engineering. If the title is non-descriptive, then there's a point in such statements. That a journal publishes review articles or symposia is worth mentioning--we don't at the moment have classification for them, but they are planned. Asia-Pacific Journal of Chemical Engineering will focus particular attention on the key areas of; Process Application (separation, polymer, catalysis, nanotechnology, ferrous metallurgy), Energy and Environmental Technology (natural resources, coal gasification, gas liquidation, air pollution control, water treatment, waste utilisation and management) and Food, Pharmaceutical & Bioengineering (biomaterials, bioprocess, biochemical engineering) this is simply a list of all the applied fields; if said at all, I'd write It emphasizes applied rather than theoretical studies. but dont repeat the name. of the journal too often. Formerly known as Developments in Chemical Engineering and Mineral Processing: The Australasian Research Journal, published by Curtin University of Technology in print only (ISSN:0969-1855). we want this information, and in fact we'd like a statement of what formats a journal is published in--many humanities journals for example are still not online. 1 Audience/Readership Readership will include researchers working in chemical or process engineering –particularly in the emerging areas of fluid mechanics, particle science and biotechnology, nanotechnology, catalysis and process systems engineering. The Asia-Pacific Journal of Chemical Engineering is of interest to professional chemical engineers working in industries that involve chemical processes." we do not want this. it's obvious, unless the orientation is such as to say "meant for practical engineers rather than academic researchers" or the like. '

  1. What else do we want: actually, quite a lot there are many useful things you can say: * The name & institution of the editor in chief, but usually just the editor in chief. Some publications with extremely notable past editors in chief should list them, but it's usually excessive. We use this information to establish the notability of the scientists concerned--any ed. in chief of a major journal will get a WP article. Not the whole board. * You can say whether its published from the US or the UK. *You can say if its included in major online services beyond your own, such as ebsco or proquest & if there is an embargo, as there usually is for journals like these, how long it is. *You can give the circulation. *You can and should give the major indexing services. Not all the little ones like Aluminum Abstracts, but: ChemAbs, Web of Science, Scopus, Inspec, Compendex, Medline/PubMed, Biosis, Psych Info, or the analogous ones in other fields. This is a major factor in establishing notability for a journal. *You can and should give the impact factor. The current ones are 05; the 06s probably wont be available until July or August, & they should then be updated. Only the most recent should be given. It can also give the rank, but give it as 4th out of the 80 journals in ___. It means more than just 4th, because 4th could be 4th out of 8. Do not give the price; do not give the purchase options. Use the Wiley and Sons category and the subject-journal categories--the higher level ones are filled automatically. Do not link to other wiley journals or to wiley, the categories will do it.
there's another thing I'd like to try--list the four highest citation papers ever published. I think the people who dont know about scientific journals will understand that.
Give references to UlrichsWeb, usually where you give the circulation, and to JCR, where you give the impact factor. If there's anything else available, give it.
and one final practical point from my experience here--don't do more than 2 at a time. Ten a week will make a difference here, and we want the articles.

Questions always welcom. I'll check back here. DGG 03:10, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Please check the new MRC article

OK, after a meeting with the Marketing Manager, we've decided to take it one journal at a time and do it properly. I can obtain most of the imformation you mentioned fairly easily. For the first one at least I will post the article to my user page and ask for your input before publishing the article, as you have much more experience in this than me.

Please can you review the article I have created about Magnetic Resonance in Chemistry on my user page. I'm not all that familiar with the Abstracting and Indexing services so please feel free to remove any that you think are not notable enough to be worth including, and also to make any other edits you feel are necesssary. Dchambers101 10:57, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

  1. Only enter the obvious services if you are not familiar with thm all. WoS, Scopus & ChmAbs are the obvious ones for chemistry. Science citation index is redundant with WoS. JCR is not an indexing service.
  2. The Manual of Style for WP, WP:MOS, Specifies: no R symbol (or C or TM), names of people not prefixed with Dr. in most cases. Titlesof articles in ordinary " " double quotes--not bold, titles of journals in italics; titles of journals at the head of articles I think better in plain bold. not bold italics.
  3. People get impatient at long lists--use ititials not full first & middle name only for article authors.
  4. get the number of citations for the articles : enter as (cited 99 times) with a footnote to WoS. Dont just use a list, use words to introduce it.

I will then take a second look for more details. DGG 01:17, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] fixes

the point of some of these is to decrease the amount of apparent emphasis, and the links to commercial publishers or organizations: 1. The titles of journal article go in either single quotes (UK style) ' or double quotes (US style) " -- they do not go in Bold Face (three single quotes) or italics (two single quotes) -- In general avoid bold face except for earlier or alternate names of journals 2. For the indexes, don't link the names of the index publishers, just the indexes I fixed this also. I suggest also putting it into a paragraph. Link to Ulrich's as a source, not the publisher. 3. The article titles as found in Web of Science often need editing for compactness: change to the form used in most journals, not (Volume 32, Issue 11, Pages 670 - 678) but 32(11):670–678 (19xx) (I didn't change them because you have to go back & get the year--Wos usually lists the year at the front. Watch out for inconsistent WoS formatting for earlier papers, by the way. 3a. Section headings should be as short as possible , use Highest cited papers, (caps as shown). 4. The links in the refs should include the exact url when possible. it is for Wiley. I don;t use them for WoS or Ulrich's because they are dynamic web pages--though we may be asked to include the search string) 4a the formatting of the two https didn't come out right in the box. I suggest you just give the journal information page and then list both that and the table of contents in a section callled External Links, following the references. And then there are some more details. I'll keep an eye out for it. DGG (talk) 17:45, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Amended

Thanks, I've made the amendments you suggested. I've also figured out how to use the references function properly (I hope). Let me know if you have any more feedback. Dchambers101 11:23, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Sure, go ahead, but try one only first, and let's see the reaction. DGG (talk) 19:10, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

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Do you temporary pages not on your main user page, but on a subpage. I have just made for you the page User:Dchambers101/sandbox for the purpose, it's the usual way of doing it. DGG (talk) 16:55, 13 December 2007 (UTC)


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