User talk:Dbergan/Ian Pitchford

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[edit] From User:Dbergan's talk page

[edit] The Design Revolution

Dear David, I don't think a page on this minor work deserves a place in Wikipedia. A small section in the Dembski article would suffice. As it's currently formatted the article could almost be a publicity blurb circulated by the publisher. Perhaps we need an RfC to encourage other editors to collaborate on a more balanced page, or alternatively a vote on deletion or merger? --Ian Pitchford 19:31, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

What is the encyclopedic justification for quotations giving only Dembski's viewpoint - or rather the particular slant on things that he wants to present in this work? The quotations don't even accurately reflect Dembski's own position as stated in other works available online. --Ian Pitchford 19:49, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

I have a background in evolutionary biology and know some of the individuals involved in the debate, but I must admit it's a peripheral interest. --Ian Pitchford 20:09, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] From User:Ian_Pitchford's talk page

[edit] The Design Revolution

Hi Ian. Just wanted to know why you felt it necessary to delete authentic quotes from the article on The Design Revolution. Did you feel the quotes misrepresented the book? David Bergan 19:25, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply, Ian. So, what would be the point of removing it? If it's minor, who cares, no one will look for it. If it does have a noticable following, then people can search for it and read something factual and accurate... as opposed to nothing. David Bergan 19:38, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Ok, I can see your point about the quotes. I had written them because they were noteworthy enough to be in our Talk:Intelligent Design discussion and I wanted other users to be able to see that they were legitimate quotes without buying the book. It's hard to refer to a book in wikipedia discussions... because people want to source-check, yet they can't see the book as easily as they can click on a link. I'll leave it up to you, though. If you think it's worth it to have any of the quotes available, you can un-delete them.

By the way, what's got you interested in intelligent design? David Bergan 20:00, 13 July 2005 (UTC)