Talk:Dazed and Confused (film)

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[edit] Trivia (Is Renee Zellweger in this film or not?)

I removed "* Renée Zellweger has an unbilled non-speaking appearance in this film as one of her very early roles. (She may be uncredited but she does have dialogue in at least one cut of the film. She apologizes to a few freshmen girls for the hazing they about to endure.)"

I think whoever wrote this comment confused Renee Zellweger with Joey Lauren Adams, who is the credited cast member who spoke the lines referred to.

This is the top article from googling "Renee Zellweger" and "Dazed and Confused". However, if you read down the search, there are a lot of other articles independent of each other which say the same thing, that Renee Zellweger appeared or at least filmed scenes for this film (including her own wikipedia entry). I'm going to put this back into trivia in a few weeks time if no-one objects or wishes to beat me to it because they can verify it.

http://www.hollywood.com/celebs/detail/id/188546

"A blonde, bee-stung-lipped rising female lead, Renee Zellweger has gone from Gen-X movies to Hollywood property. She made her film debut while still a teenager in "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2" (1986) and later was Jenny, the terrorized wallflower, in "Return of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre" (1995). But it was her turn as Starlene, the moll to fleeing Gil Bellows, in "Love and a .45" (1994) that made Hollywood take notice. In between, Zellweger also had small roles in "Dazed and Confused" (1993) and "Reality Bites" (1994).... "

OK, I asked treasly on imdb and the consensus seems to be that Renee Zellweger was in the movie but uncredited. Someone also showed me some screenshots, so I'm going to put back in the trivia that Renee Zellweger had an uncredited appearance if that's OK with everyone. Shan246


http://72.14.209.104/search?q=cache:LcbOi61DyicJ:www.geocities.com/Heartland/Park/3369/dazed.htm+dazed+and+confused+%2B+nesi&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1

Any reason why this keeps getting deleted from the trivia? It seems to be a true fact on what I can find and I would have thought an uncredited appearance by an actress who went on to win an Academy Award in the future amongst other things would be reasonably significant. Certainly more so than some of the other (though still significant enough to be included) trivia here. Shan246

In watching the movie, she definitely does not receive a credit. She may be in a brief scene at the Moon Tower outdoor party where she is holding a hose and funnel while someone is drinking beer from it and some of the main actors are walking by in conversation.

[edit] Trivia (Other)

I removed "This is one of the first few high school-themed films to show the realism of classes and life." it's poorly written and unsourced and also unspecific. Does the film show realism? I'd argue it's 'exaggerated realism'. Eine 01:37, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

While it might seem somewhat exaggerated, once you get into the CURRENT teenage culture in high school, let alone '70s high school culture, I'd say it's fairly accurate.

Is there any real purpose in the "When the nerds discuss then president Gerald Ford Mike (Goldberg) replies with "Who cares he's outta there this fall!" He ended up being right 6 months later in November when he was defeated by Jimmy Carter" entry? The film was made in 1993, , so it wasn't much of a guess.

[edit] Trivia ('man')

In this wiki, it is claimed that the word 'man' is said 185 times. However, on IMDB's trivia on Dazed and Confused, it states the 'man' was said 203 times. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106677/trivia Chord 1-12-07

[edit] Filming Location Discrepancy

The majority of this movie was actually filmed in Georgetown, Texas.

IMDb also mentions Seguin, Texas. Reliable sources anyone? Roponor 15:48, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Paddles

Could anyone watch the movie and list what was on each character's paddle? --Richy 19:04, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Afflects says FAH Q on one side and O.B./Badass on the other, mels says soul pole, and one (i dont remember which) says 17 years (the difference between the year the movie was set and the year it was made) ill watch the movie soon and get everyones paddles) --Ninandnirvana 06:45, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cars

I'd rather see a specific listing of the cars driven by the main characters, but I'm too lazy to do it myself, outside of Wooderson's 454 Chevelle.

You can find all of the cars and which character drove 'em, here. -- Count Ringworm


I'll do it heres a rough draft

Pickford:

  1. Name:The Judge
Make
Said to be 1970 Pontiac GTO,
Is actually: 2 cars (both repainted for the film) 1967 GTO (Black stunt double) 1966 GTO (gold real)

Slatter:

  1. Name:Boogie Van
Make:1972 Ford Econoline Van

Wooderson:

  1. Name:Melba Toast
Make:1970 Chevrolet Chevelle SS

O'Bannon:

  1. Name:Grey Ghost
Make:1972 Plmouth Duster

Jodi:

  1. Name:N/A
Make:1969 Volkswagon Beetle

Coach Conrad:

  1. Name:N/A

Make:1969 Ford Bronco

Julie:

  1. Name:N/A

Make:1972 Ford Maveric

Pink:

  1. Name:N/A

Make:1975 El Camino

Benny:

  1. Name:N/A

Make:1972 Chevy C10 Pickup

Darla:

  1. Name:N/A

Make:1975 GMC

Clint:

  1. Name:N/A

Make:1974 Trans Am SD-455

  • note from me

all information is from http://www.dazed-and-confused.net, which took the info from the "Dazed and Confused Movie Book".

And i posted it in the discusion page first since im only 15 and i would like someone alittle more confident with the english language to proofread it. Also im new to editing wikipedia so someone with more experience please format it --Ninandnirvana 05:33, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Led Zeppelin

The article doesn't mention nothing about the "Led Zeppelin" song called "Dazed and Confused".

It is unrelated to it. Read end of Dazed and Confused (song) article.BauerPower 17:42, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

I beg to differ, the song's page actually says this:
"The song was also used as the basis for the title of the 1993 film Dazed and Confused, which chronicled the lives of various American youths on their last day of high school in 1976. However, it is not found on the film's soundtrack. Richard Linklater appealed to Led Zeppelin band members to use some of their songs in the movie but, although Jimmy Page agreed to this, Robert Plant was opposed, so the songs were not used."
Now it is unsourced, so it may or may not be accurate. But regardless, the title is a blatant reference to the song, and as thus should at least be mentioned in the trivia section worded perhaps as such "The film shares a title with the Jake Holmes/Led Zeppelin song of the same name." or something to that effect. Blaiseball 03:47, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

The director has suggested in interviews that the name of the film was derived from the song. I have added this information to the article Edelmand 15:56, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Quotes

I am removing the quotes section since it already has a decent sized wikiquote page laters --Ninandnirvana 02:18, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Plot

I rewrote the plot listing, which was very rambling and hard to understand. I realize that this is not the easiest film in the world to summarize, but I think I've done the best I can with it. If anyone has any objections, please say so, but I don't think we should really severely edit the plot without further discussion. I can easily see it being turned into an Analysis of the film itself. Nqnpipnr 03:24, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

sorry to be nitpicky but i think "starting quarterback" is more accurate than "star football player" to describe Pink. Lord mortekai 23:42, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Is the lawsuit mention correct?

"The people who claimed to be the basis for Slater, Wooderson, and Floyd all unsuccessfully sued director Linklater in 2004 for defamation."-- I've found several news articled that say 3 of Linklater's former classmates whose real names are Wooderson, Floyd, and Slater filed a lawsuit in Dec 2004, but I haven't found any that say the lawsuit was unsuccessful. Was the case dismissed or is it still open? The mention needs to be sourced at least and maybe expanded.JeffStickney 00:21, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Dazedandconfused.jpg

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Evenmoredazedandconfused.jpg

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[edit] Themes

I added a themes section, as the film is interesting for both its plot and fun quotes, but also as an interesting slacker and coming-of-age story. Frogan 22:48, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] foghat's slow ride

this discussion came up with a group of friends. my question is, what is the true meaning of the song?

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Fgdazed&confused.png

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[edit] Nazareth problem

On the first soundtrack listing the link for the band Nazareth (they sang "Love Hurts") redirects to Nazareth the city in Israel. I made the correction; however, I can't figure out how to keep the proper link but not have it as "Nazareth (band)" on the actual article. Somebody who knows how to do this should fix it and then tell me how you did it. Thanks... - tbone (talk) 04:15, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Never mind, I figured out how to fix it. - tbone (talk) 23:50, 13 February 2008 (UTC)