User talk:Dayaanjali

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[edit] India/Kerala links

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[edit] List of Nair Tharavadus

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[edit] List of Ezhava Tharavads

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[edit] Thiyya

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[edit] Ezhavas-Oldest Ethnic group

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[edit] Ochirakali

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[edit] Nadar (caste)‎

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[edit] Template

The template was removed as the template is normally used in user space and not on article space. Also, I have no idea about those famous families, sons subheading. Jisha (Talk) 07:55, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Good job

Hey Dayanjali, You are doing a great job.. I hope all the information are from authentic sources.

[edit] Padmanabha Swamy Temple Reply

Hey,

Its great u replied. I merely edited it out since i read in the Travancore State Manual (no other book can be more reliable than one printed by the Royal family themselves) that it was a Pulaya family that found the child. Everything in the story is right but it says Pulaya and not ezhava. Thats y i edited that part out. Ofcourse if ur sure about the references then no probs. May be im on the wrong side. Thanks for messaging though.

Thanks

Manu

Sorry for an unsolicited message, but as far as reliability of sources go, there is no comparison between Travancore State Manual and makemyholidays.com Tintin 13:09, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Just noticed that you have mentioned other sources (books) in Manu's talk page. It is better to mention them in the article than sites like makemyholidays. Tintin 14:05, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't really know how authentic the Travancore State Manual but my main complaint is with makemyholidays.com which does not look a decent source for an encyclopaeida. Since you have a source (NR Krishnan's book) that is certainly better than makemyholidays, it is better to add it as the source - with the book name, author, publisher, ISBN if any, and page number. I hope you know how to add the citation, if not please let me know. You may add as a note at the end of the article that there is an alternate version as mentioned in the State Manual, but that is your choice. Tintin 05:09, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Narayana_Guru

Few questions on your edit on the 1927 statue at Thalassery; is it the same marble statue that was sculpted in Italy? Couple of other points too, 1. that Bodhananda Swami was from Trichur - I know the family - does it represent a part of old Malabar? and 2. The hyperlink to the website, is not any more informative on the statue itself, so will need to remove. No hurry to edit. I will do after we discuss. Thanks. Aaroamal 13:08, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Dear Dayanjali, I suggest you limit the input in the Narayana Guru article to precise biographical points. Please do to water-down the brevity and tight knit structure of the aricle - which is an essential sign of quality of writing. Narayana Guru's legacy and stories is a cosmos of its own; one cannot fit it all into a Wiki article. Also please note that none of the authentic biographers of the Guru has quoted the Guru to have said "Ezhava siva" - it is a (more recent) misprepresentation of words said by someone else at the consecration event. Please also read the discussion page on past discussions on the subject.Aaroamal 19:42, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Hi

Hello Anjali,

You see, In Kasaragod, Malayalam is widely spoken and understood.Apart from Malayalam, the widely spoken language here is Tulu not Kannada.

Kannada is not a native language of Kasaragod.In fact they consider Tuluvas in Kasaragod as Kannadigas.But some tuluvas like me only know Malayalam and Tulu.Tulu spoken here cannot be understood by tuluvas in Udupi and Mangalore as here it is highly mixed up with Malayalam.

Beary bashe is nothing but a dialect of Malayalam.Similar type of dialect is used by Mappilas of Malabar coast.But Kannadigas,preceving it as a threat to their culture are trying to make it their own dialect,just as they take Tulu to be their own dialect.

Yes,Billava brahmin do know Malayalam.

Thanks...

ARUNKUMAR P.R 05:33, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Billava brahmins speak a mixed dialect consisting of Tulu and Malayalam.

It should also be noted that a person called Kayyara Kinyannarai, who said that Kasaragod belonged to Karnataka, miserably failed in Kerala election.This sure shows that people are content now being in Kerala.

ARUNKUMAR P.R 08:49, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

This might answer lot of questions. Articles on Beary, Beary bashe and Kayyara Kinyanna Rai can be found here. Thanks, Gnanapiti 19:53, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Hai Anjali,

Better look at the oficial site of Kasaragod and not some unauthorized site such as Youtube.People know Kannada in Kasaragod only because it is taught there.Mostly Tuluvas take up Kannada language.My mother is a Kannada teacher in GUPS Adkathbail and according to her there were only 28 students who opted for Kannada while there were 40 who opted for Malayalam, in primary school.In Nullipady school, the situation was far worse, where no children opted for Kannada but there were 32 for Malayalam.

People who even know Kannada can speak fluently in Malayalam.If this is the case Gnanapiti is pointing to,then better look up Mangalapuram city where there are much more Malayalees than Kannadiga combined.As a person residing in Kasaragod, I know the atmosphere and Problem here better than him.

ARUNKUMAR P.R 04:39, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Thalassery

Hi Anjali,

I wouldn't be too sure of either Kannur or Thalassery being a city or town, because both have the same sort of development and urbanization and the same kind of people, lifestyle and culture. I would say both are equal. Shijaz 08:39, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Anjali,

In North Kerala, Kaka is used to address 'brother'. Sometimes prominent social figures are also addressed with a suffix 'kaka' to their name. Shijaz 11:08, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

Hello Anjali,

Yesterday the Kannada Raksha Vedika demonstrated in front of Mangalore Railway station.Their first demand was genuine that to start Mangalore-Bangalore rail service.Their other demand was:

• Every bus,train,school and official building in Mangalore should carry Kannada names.

• Every school should hoist the flag of Karnataka on the day Karnataka was born.

• Kasaragod should be made a part of Karnataka.

According to me Kasaragod should be a part of Kerala.What is your opinion?

You also know that the tuluvas in Kasaragod use a tulu dialect which is a mixture of Malayalam.I have written an article :Kasaragod Tulu which for the time has annoyed the Kannada wikipedians as they think Tulu is indegenous to Karnataka.Pls read the article.I have given enough citations to it.

Pls reply....

ARUNKUMAR P.R 08:42, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hi

Hello Anjali,

I hope that you read the page: Kasaragod Tulu.Now the citations i gave for the article is from Boloji.com written by a tuluva with surname Hebbar.Now Gnanapiti is going to delete those citations as it is pinching for him to accept that Tulu also has a blend of Malayalam.So i want your valuable support and an eye on the article.Pls reply....

ARUNKUMAR P.R 07:40, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] kasargod tulu

Insert non-formatted text here i think you didn't get waht point i was trying to make. If u see the kasardog tulu page, the variations claimed by Mr. Arun kumar are in daily use by Mangaloreans as well & not special words used by Kasargod people alone. That's why i said that the article was crap

Hello Anjali,

Mangloreans know this dialect only due to the proximity of Mangalore to Kasaragod.The Tulu spoken in Mangalore is considered to be the most pure form of Tulu and that of Kasaragod and Udupi is the most impure.

ARUNKUMAR P.R 07:15, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Hello Anjali,

Pls read my new article Mappila Malayalam and convey your opinion.You are also welcomed to edit it.Also, if you know any Mappila wikipedian, pls ask him to see the article.

Also, today in Udayavani newspaper, there was a language funamentalist nenews.According to it, Mangalore railway station is full of Malayalees and they should be removed.The head of the Kannada Raksha Vedhi also quoted that:" This is Karnataka,not Kerala.They also chanted their slogan Karnataka Kannadiga Kannadada Kantha.I find this statement silly afterall.

Arunkumar P.R 04:24, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] July 2007

Please open your eyes and see the diff before reverting. I've just fixed the reference format and nothing else. Gnanapiti 15:13, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Hello Anjali,

Thanks for that links.It was very informative.From those articles i have come to the following conclusions:

(1)Up to 1999, the so called Beary bashe of Karnataka was called as Mappila Malayalam.

(2)This Beary is a relatively new term.

I have a Beary friend in my college, in Udupi.I converse to him daily.What i could find out was that language he speaks is nothing but pure Mappila dialect of Malayalam with loan words from Kannada and Tulu.He refers to his language as Malayalam itself.

So according to me, there is a muslim community called Bearys but no new language called Beary bashe.

Pls reply...

ARUNKUMAR P.R (talk · contribs) 08:15, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gnanapiti

The edits that Gnanapiti made here and here are quite correct. If you look at Koti_and_Chennayya#References, the link now appears as the second reference. Billava needed a minor correction for the references which I have added now. Tintin 11:21, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't know anything about the subject but are you sure that he removed the word Tulu deliberately ? It looked like he did a plain revert which removed the word with the format changes. May be you should add it again and discuss with him if he has any objections. I thought the argument was about the link removal. Tintin 11:39, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Left a message in Gnanapiti's talk page to discuss and solve it. Please WP:Assume Good Faith. This looks more like a misunderstanding on both sides rather than a content dispute. Tintin 11:52, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

This is insane. This user Daya Anjali first need to learn how to see diff. This is the last time I'm explaining you, since I don't have anymore patience to go over this silly thing again again and again. I haven't removed anything. What I've done is fixed the reference format because that is how you reference something. There is a fixed format to reference external websites in wikipedia and it's not done by giving external link in the main article. If you can't understand this, I can't help it. And yeah, accusing of vandalism in edit summaries without any reason is a personal attack. Thanks, Gnanapiti 13:55, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Please. Isn't it obvious that Dayanjali did not know that the link will appear in the reference section, and that when the link disappeared from the text, he thought your edit hid it somehow ? Having a small dose of AGF and explaining this would have kept the blood pressure of all involved parties down. Tintin 14:03, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

OK. Let me clarify. First of all, there is no dispute. There is not even any difference in opinions. To be precise, there is nothing. Only one thing I didn't really appreciate is terming a good faith edit as vandalism and leaving such messages on your talk page and User talk:Thunderboltz. Anyways, I'm done with this. Gnanapiti 19:24, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

There was content dispute...The user Gnanapiti have explicitly removed "The Tulu word derived from " from my posts. Also the Gnanapiti have removed a section from subsects of billava.

Daya anjali 10:57, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Famous Gouds

I have suggested that Famous Gouds be merged into the main Goud article as it does not seem to comply with WP:NOT#DIR. In the meantime, it is possible it will be nominated for speedy deletion as it does not apply to comply with notability or attribution requirements. --ROGER ^TALK 09:06, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

I've replied (sorry about the delay) on my talk page. --ROGER ^TALK 05:30, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] N.R. Krishnan's Book: Ezhava's Yesterday and Today

dear dayaanjali,

i have been trying to locate the above book (i think it is written in malayalam, not english) and did a search for n.r. krishnan and ezhava on web... and came to your user page... so i'm wondering, do you have a copy of this book? and where are you located??

best wishes, deepa

p.s. i am making a docufiction film about a very particular subject in kerala history... there is an anecdote i am looking for and the only lengthy discussion i have found is supposed to be in this book....

if you get this message please email me at chakaray@gmail.com

[edit] Notability of Famous Gouds

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I take your point entirely about the List of Nairs but a good many of them are cross-referenced to individual WP articles, which is not the case with the Gouds. I'm going to refer the List of Nairs to articles for deletion to see what they make of it. The problem with all these lists is that they represent huge amounts of work but are probably not encyclopedic and, according to policy, shouldn't be included. --ROGER ^TALK 11:12, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of Famous Gouds

You may wish to comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Famous Gouds, which is where the deletion discussion is taking place. I've removed the {{hangon}} tag as it is now unnecessary as a result of the "Article for Deletion" discussion. It might, by the way, be a good idea to start stub articles on some of the individual Gouds (summarising the links is a good way to create stub articles). Don't forget that for stubs you need to provide a reference and explain why they are famous (for some categories of jobs, senior judges, politicians etc, just being appointed is sufficient for notability). --ROGER ^TALK 10:07, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mappila Malayalam

Hai Anjali,

Pls read the page Mappila Malayalam urgently and pls properly reference and remove false reference from the article.If you have time pls do it.

ARUNKUMAR P.R (talk · contribs) 04:04, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] On Narayana Guru

Thank you for the message and valuable advice.

But please note that I have not removed any of the referenced materials as you have alleged. The article contains just three references and none of them pertains to the changes I made. You are requested to go through before making any false allegations. Rumors and unsubstaniated claims are the ones I edited out.

As far as the 'digitised photograph' is concerned, I still hold the good old black and white photograph is more authentic than the "digitised" one. Yet I did not remove the "digitised" image frome the article, but only placed it in a different position in the wikpedia page with the appropriate foot-note that the image is a digistised one.

While I don't mind discussing my points in the discussion page as you have advised me to do, we expect you to practice it before dishing out advices to others. Remember, you did not care to discuss your reasons while you made the last changes. PUSTHAKAPUZHU

[edit] MM

Hello Anjali,

Thats interesting.Can you pls provide the source of the information.

Pls reply...

ARUNKUMAR P.R (talk · contribs) 06:31, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar Award

Hi,

I have awarded you a barnstar for you tireless efforts to contribute to Kerala related articles including Dravidian martial arts. I have added a section for the weapon arts of Kerala on that page including maps. Also, we would love to have you join our Dravidian WikiProject in respects to contributing to more Malayalee related articles. We have also have members who contribute to Tamil, Telugu and other Dravidian related pages which include various arts, geography, faiths and more. If you are interested in joining, please click here and post your name in the members section. Keep up the good work. Wiki Raja 08:38, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Nair talk page

Hello, I've gone ahead and reverted your changes. Please realize that the Talk page exists to discuss the article and not caste-politics or caste-war issues. Please don't add all that information again. Thanks. --vi5in^[talk] 16:09, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

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Hello. I've gone ahead and fixed this up. In the future, you can use the "move" tab on the top of the page if you need to fix the title of an article. --- RockMFR 05:38, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Re: Arratupuzha Velayudha Panicker

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[edit] Mooloor page on wikipedia

Hello Dayaanjali,

My wife is from the Mooloor family, and has recently registered mooloor.org and some other domains. We would like to put up a web page on mooloor. We were wondering if we could use your article in wikipedia as reference/starting pt, with credits ofcourse ? Please let's know. I am using this feature as I could not find another way to contact you from wikipedia.

regards,

--Anish

[edit] Narayana Guru

Hello,

I see that you have reverted my tags on the article. The tags are to express concern over the style of the prose in the article, some examples of which are:

1. The people of the village highly respected him. He used to help the rustics by advising them on many matters. His dress was simple. He wore a piece to wrap round the waist, and a piece to cover the upper part of the body. He carried with him a palm-leaf umbrella, whenever he left home.
2. Nanu's mother was true to her name 'Kutti'- i.e., a child without a blemish. She was intelligent and full of kindness. She was ever calm in her work.
3. Young Nanu was slim, active and clever. He had good physique. He showed great interest and excelled his companions both in studies and in games. His writing was correct and easy to read. Impressed by this his uncle sent him for further education

The above statements are not suitable for an encyclopaedia. Please correct such style issues before reverting the tags. Any further revert without the issues being addressed will be treated as vandalism. Thanks -- ¿Amar៛^{Talk to me/My edits} 05:36, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

May be you should read this Wikipedia:Avoid_peacock_terms before accusing anyone. By the way many sections in the article are a direct lift from: this URL which is essentially a copyright violation. So it is better that the text be corrected before a copyright tag is placed on the article or the sections are removed altogether. -- ¿Amar៛^{Talk to me/My edits} 05:46, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

You dont seem to understand, do you? Just by adding few more words, does not make the prose any better. Read this first: Wikipedia:Avoid_peacock_terms before editing. If you continue to remove tags without correcting style issues, I will have to warn you for vandalism. Thanks -- ¿Amar៛^{Talk to me/My edits} 05:50, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

No one will put warning templates out of their whim. Narayana Guru has style issues and is written in peacock style and hence the tags have been placed appropriately. This fact has been accepted by you as well in my talk page here. If you are upset with the tags in the article, all that needs to be done is to work on that article and clean it up. As simple as that. And then, only then, remove the tags. Thanks -- ¿Amar៛^{Talk to me/My edits} 05:57, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE:Your edits on Varma Kalai and Mallyutham

Hi,

I have noticed a couple of your edits to Varma Kalai and Mallyutham and have left a message in regards to both of those here and here. Furthermore, I have also noticed your deep interest in Kerala related articles. Therefore, I would like to invite you to our group. Please see the template below. Regards. Wiki Raja 05:46, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Hello! I thought you may be interested in joining WikiProject Dravidian civilizations. We work on creating, expanding and making general changes to Dravidian related articles. If you would be interested in joining feel free to visit the Participants Page! Thank You.

[edit] From Wiki Raja

How's it going?

I appreciate you taking the time to reply my message. In regards to the topic on Dravidian martial arts and other fighting styles of South Asia there must be a page for Varma Kalai and another page for Varama Kalari. As for Varma Kalai, that page was put together a while back. Also, there are a couple of Varma Kalai schools in France tought by master Zacharia of Tamil Nadu. Furthermore, a lot of the the info on the Varma Kalai page was taken from the Varma Kalai site including another martial art school in Bangalore. As for a Varma Kalari web site, I would vouch for one to be created. As a matter of fact, it would be great if you, myself, and anyone else would like to work together on creating a page for Varma Kalari.

In regards to Malyutham it needs a page of its own to talk about the Tamil version of the wrestling and its histoyr. Likewise the Mallayuddha page should be its own page as well. Each have their own histories regardless of the similarities of the wrestling. However, I would also support the idea of creating another page called Wrestling Styles of India. This page could talk about Vajramusthi of Gujurat, Malyutham of Tamil Nadu, Mallayuddha, etc. also including it's similarities. See also sections would be a good idea to direct the reader to the other art forms or related art forms.

Our doors are still open if you would still like to join our WikiProject. You do not have to have a vast knowledge of everything. As a matter of fact, each of our members focusses on a single subject whether it is dance, language, diaspora, etc. Regards. Wiki Raja 05:53, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, since both Malyutham and Mallayuddha were created, it would be a better idea to leave those pages be and instead put "See Also Mallayuddha" on the Malyutham page, and a "See Also Mallyutham" on the Mallayuddha page. In that way the peoples efforts who created those pages does not go to waste, but at the same time the reader would be able to read about the other wrestling styles by going to the See Also section. Regards. Wiki Raja 06:07, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Ezhava

Since you are a fairly new user, I am WP:AGF. Main article templates need to go at the beginning of the section. The point regarding the rebellion being an "independence movement" is not accurate. It definitely was a movement against caste-based oppression, but to say that it belong to the "freedom movement of India" (or a "freedom movement" in any form) is wrong. Secondly, the Moplah rebellion article makes no mention of Ezhava involvement. If you can cite a reliable source that says this, then we can include it in the article. --vi5in^[talk] 16:54, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

All content I have added has been with sources. Do you see the ref tags on them? The Ezhava article is NOT well-maintained in the least. It is full of grammatical and spelling errors. Its tone is self-aggrandizing and reads like an essay. There is no misunderstanding in this. And you are not stressing me out in the least. I am just trying to let you know that a) I have added citations and b) the Ezhava article needs to be cleaned up. I also see that your earliest edit is August 14th, 2006. How have you been here for three years then? --vi5in^[talk] 16:02, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

I think this article is well maintained/referenced than Nair article. Each section and even some sentence added with valid refrence. you can always refer them. we could understand the motivation behind editing this particular article. cheers.Daya Anjali (talk / contribs) 09:12, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

That's your opinion and as far as opinions go, it is wrong. You will notice that I have not removed any passages with references. I don't see why you are comparing this to the Nair article. This has nothing to do with it. Secondly, you have to agree that the tone, writing style, grammar, and spelling of the article could use much improvement. Please refrain from veiled threats. I am not sure of what "motivation" you are speaking about. --vi5in^[talk] 15:12, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Can you abide by your own instructions and discuss the issue in the talk page instead of blindly reverting the article? I have outlined my changes there. --vi5in^[talk] 16:01, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

I would appreciate it if you didn't call my edits "vandalism". You're violating WP:NPA. All I'm doing is cleaning up the article. It has a lot of extraneous information, and it can be written a whole lot better. Some sections have absolutely nothing to do with actually describing the caste. I looked at the references you provided, but it only gives me the front page of the book (on Google Books). Can you provide me the actual page number (a link would be fine too)? I am not sure about a "Prophet". I looked at your references on the Sree Narayana Guru page, and the URL cannot be found. Who else calls him a prophet? I would say social reformer for sure, but I am not sure of anything other than that. --vi5in^[talk] 08:26, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Made some more changes. Please see the talk page for the article. The article definitely reads better. I also merged some of the smaller sections into their parents. Having so many subheadings and sections was making the readability of the article rather difficult. --vi5in^[talk] 09:15, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Malayalee

Please tell me where I have attacked you personally? I said that you are being obstinate and going completely against what linguistics have to say about Malayalam and Tamil. You might want to look here as far as where "Malayalee" comes from. Even if you look at it phonetically, Malayalee is pronounced with the 'y' as part of the word. There is no way you could have that 'y' with just 'mala' and 'aali'. On the other hand, if it was from 'malai' and 'aali', the 'ai' at the end of 'malai' incorporates the 'y'. Most words in Malayalam are of Tamil origin. I don't know what fact you are "agreeing" to, because I never said that Malayalam evolved independently from Tamil. If that was the case, Malayalam would be considered a classical language, which it is not. Malayalam evolved tamil. I am well aware that Malayalam has absorbed loanwords from other languages, but I am not sure what this has to do with the argument. The word "Malayalee" and "Malayalam" existed even before the genesis of the language itself. Like I said, they are probably corrupted versions of "malai-aali" or "malai-aazhi". If most words are of Tamil origin, how can you say Malayalee came from the Malayalam itself? As far as Nairs go, I didn't say that Nairs are the only community with these customs. I said that they are known to be different because they were (until recent times) exclusively matrilineal. In addition, they were also exclusively a martial class. Any anthropological or sociological text that talks about Nairs never fails to mention these facts. I never said that "Nairs are the only ones who practiced this". I am not where you are even getting this from. --vi5in^[talk] 15:25, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Could you please read the summary of changes, my rationale for the changes, and my references in the talk page before blindly reverting? --vi5in^[talk] 18:38, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Why are you changing your argument? First it was "your points are not adequately sourced". So I provided you the sources, which you refused to read, repeatedly claiming that it was unsourced. Now that you have finally read the sources, you are now using the argument that the article is no place to "list the attributes of each community"? I am well aware of what the main template stands for. This is just one single sentence in question, that happens to list what Nairs are sociologically known for. How is that going to affect the length of the section? It's just one sentence. Please stop arguing just for the sake of it. --vi5in^[talk] 05:30, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Don't lecture me about WP:NPA. I am more than aware what it means. I haven't personally attacked you in any form. Why do you keep prattling on about "verifiable sources" when I have provided tons of them in the article and in the talk page? Please don't keep changing your argument every time. This is not about caste bias or supremacy. You are reverting already established changes, and worse, adding incorrect information (like Malayali coming from Malayalam words). Read my arguments presented in the talk page (need I remind you again that they have a lot of sources) and respond to them instead of reverting. --vi5in^[talk] 17:47, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

If you have an issue with the sources, address them in the talk page instead of reverting. Once again, I haven't attacked you personally. I have no idea why you keep bringing that up. Also, I am not even sure what you mean by "personal interests". I'm going to solicit the input of other editors and administrators regarding this. Perhaps you should also heed your own advice. Calling my edits vandalism is a personal attack. --vi5in^[talk] 06:26, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

If you keep going down this path, I will either have to seek an RfC or report you to WP:ANI. --vi5in^[talk] 16:16, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

I have initiated an RfC on the article. --vi5in^[talk] 16:36, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Contribute for article on Swami Sandeep Chaitanya

Requset your valuable contribution for Wikifying the artcle on [Swami_sandeep_chaitanya] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Liberal Democrat (talk • contribs) 14:24, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Malayalee

Hai Anjali,

Recently there has been a lot of fuss around Malayalee article.By saying that Malayalam evolved from Tamil, we do not say that Malayalam evolved from modern Tamil.In fact modern Tamil and Malayalam were the result of changes in medivial Tamil.Thus these two languages are closely related.

Pls reply...

ARUNKUMAR P.R (talk · contribs) 11:53, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Malayalam

I agree the article Malayalee is not for not the artcile to add about castes in kerala. I really feel one doesnt need that article itself. I really feel ashamed by the fact that we Keralites using the beautiful Wiki just for this kind of caste wars! utter nonsense. you tell me one thing otherthan stating "Malayalee is a word used to refer people speaking language Malayalam or people living in Kerala This is more than enogh..in that place we are writing all sorts of rubbish things!

About origin of Malayalam, I know only one thing that is the language is so much Sanskritized one and it will be one of the Indian language with most sanskrit words.

What you said about Marumakkathayam , I completely agree. In fact as i was pointing out to User vi5in there is a strong Nair bias we are facing. I suggest you to please read this Sreekanthv 09:49, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:

...Kannada also has its roots on Old version of Tamil... - this statement is not worth discussing.. its worth reverting on sight if it is added to an article. Sarvagnya 06:45, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hai

Hai Anjali,

Kannada wikipedians banned the usage of Malayalam name for Mangalore.But they are using Kannada Name for articles related to Kasaragod.What should I do?

ARUNKUMAR P.R (talk · contribs) 09:18, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:

You are most welcome. Also I saw revrtes in ezhava article. we can handle this guy if crosses the elimit.Tulu war 09:44, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kuroolli Chekon

Do you have any more information to expand this article? I tried a google search, but am unable to come up with anything relevant. This may fail WP:NOTABILITY. See if you can expand the article, or we might have to put the {{notability}} tag. Helpful information would be something like his date of birth, information about his life, and any other notable things that he did in Kerala History. Thanks --vi5in^[talk] 21:59, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dr. V. Samabasivan

This is similar to the above. The link to the Hindu article only mentions his name and doesn't mention anything else. --vi5in^[talk] 22:05, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tags

Please don't remove tags from articles that don't have references. Instead, try to add references and improve the article. --vi5in^[talk] 18:33, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ezhava

First of all, why haven't you edited at all on the article talk page since it was protected? We'd have discussions for days on the text. Second, if you see here, I've simply moved a lot of the text down a section (it didn't make sense in the introduction). Please respond at Talk:Ezhava. There is no need to repeat yourself everywhere. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 05:43, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

No problem. Again, head over the talk page if you can. There are quite a few things you can help out with. A lot of that text may soon go if someone can't find sources. If you can't tell from this section, I think I am more than fair. I really would like another opinion as it seems like we have two established users sort of leaning one way and a bunch of newer inexperienced users on the other side (which can't pull sources that well). However, I will warn you right now not to make any implications regarding the biases of other users. Remember: comment on the content, not the editors. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 06:31, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Malayalee

Can you please join the discussion in the talk page? I have suggested removing the entire sentence (regarding the etymology of Malayalee) from the introduction. Is this an acceptable solution? --vi5in^[talk] 06:33, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hello :)

Hi, I really appreciate the constructive discussion you are engaging in. I suggest we forget our past differences and move forward? :) --vi5in^[talk] 17:13, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] You there?

Hello i did know that you were contributors a lot of articles expecially ezhava related . now need support for ezhava related articles. thank you 08:18, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ezhava conversion

I too am a Keralite. My name is Georgekutty. I write mostly in the Malayalam wikki. Presently, I am trying to improve the malayalam wikki article on Vaikom sathyagraha. (Incidently, vaikom is my hometown in kerala) In that connection, I have read the English wikki article on Temple Entry Proclamation. I have seen the following addition by you in it: "In dejection, many of the Ezhavas embraced Christianity, making the Christian population of Travancore increase from six lakhs in 1901 to 17 lakhs by 1931". I am a little curious about the source of this assertion. Prime facie, it does not seem correct that there was a three-fold increase in Travancore's Christian population in the first three decades of the 20th century due to conversion from the Ezhava community.Jorjqt (talk) 00:15, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Achudemia

I found the correct template and added the info. Thanks for the contribution btw. Regards. Thingg^⊕⊗ 15:07, 3 June 2008 (UTC)