Talk:Days of Wine and Roses (film)

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[edit] Recent changes re JP Miller and changes to teleplay

I am making the following changes to the article: First, I am deleting the information in the intro about JP Miller’s screenplay/teleplay which was seen on Playhouse 90. First it’s about the performance on television--writer, director and cast-- and not this film. I suggest a new article on the television show be started and written.

Second: the information added to the background section is too long to be added verbatim (643 words) and seems like a copyvio to me. I will leave a summary, as follows:

Some critics observed that the movie lacked the impact of the original television production. In an article written for DVD Journal, critic D.K. Holm described numerous changes that altered the original teleplay considerably when the material was filmed. He cites as an example the hiring of Jack Lemmon. With his participation "little remained of the founding teleplay, except for actor Charles Bickford reprising his role." Also, I don't see the citation of the DVD Journal: date; article name if any, etc. In short, this short addition captures Holm's point succinctly.

I been hit by copyvios by other editors in the past so I learned about them as I edited.

♦ Luigibob ♦ ^{"Talk to Luigi!"} 15:49, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Why the addition , once again, of the Playhouse 90 review in the New York Times. An editor has already included in Miller's article and in PLAYHOUSE 90 article (must be a JP Miller family member). Not needed here because this article is about THE FILM, not the television program. This addition is OFF-TOPIC. Luigibob (talk) 12:11, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Okay: I added an article for the television show aired in October 1958. See: Days of Wine and Roses (1958 TV drama). Family members of JP Miller should be pleased to get that quote in another article. Luigibob (talk) 13:10, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

The new page looks good. However, you should be aware that the movie is inferior to the TV production. This seems to me to be an important point that should be made on both pages. Perhaps if one went deep enough into this, one might even discover that Hollywood did various adaptations from TV dramas in an effort to "take over" the best 1950s dramas created for television. Also, this is essentially the same material, so the movie never would have been made were it not for the huge impact made by Miller, Frankenheimer, Robertson and Piper. Ditto for the boring Marty adapted from the fascinating Marty. Pepso2 (talk) 19:11, 5 January 2008 (UTC)