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[edit] Welcome!

Hello, DavidHOzAu, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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[edit] Wikification of color

Thanks for your work on the Color article. I saw the wikification template and did a few little things, tweaking the image tags mostly, and then you came along and took care of the rest. Thanks! Phidauex 04:26, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sonic Fandom

Hey dude I'm just letting you know that I've added to the Sonic Fandom article with all the knowledge that I have. See my userpage or the article itself. Anyway, let's hope that someone else could add to the topic, it's got potential to be a biggie!(StrikerST 21:05, 30 May 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Null edit at Template talk:Fact

What happened here? Just wondering, Ardric47 01:01, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

That's...very strange. I have noticed that null edits are apparently still used in some situations (even though they're not supposed to be necessary), which is why I asked. Ardric47 01:22, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] inhunt.com

Hey, thanks alot for your additional summary. I appreciate it, and I'm sure everone else does too. --Reaper X 17:35, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Turn It Up (Ben Bailey-Smith song)

Hello, I noticed you just deleted Turn It Up (Ben Bailey-Smith song). I visited the article from Special:NewPages and managed to catch the original editor adding {{CurrentSingles}} to the page. Since music on the charts is notable, you may want to undo the deletion and replace {{db-context}} with {{expand}}. Of course, if you did see that change and still feel justified in deleting it, don't bother and let it stay deleted. --DavidH Oz Au 02:14, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

I'll wager that it's not actually a charting single. It's part of a web of articles I just speedied, all about some band supposedly discovered by a talent search TV program, and supposedly with an album and singles out. However the TV program doesn't exist, nor does the company that is said to have made the TV show, nor does the record label they are releasing their album on. --bainer (talk) 02:21, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Ahh, okay, you obviously know what you're doing. The article can stay deleted. --DavidH Oz Au 02:31, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Steve Irwin

need source "for deady sea creatures"...quick —Preceding unsigned comment added by I already forgot (talk • contribs)

I heard it on A Current Affair tonight. I would use {{cite visual}}, but I didn't catch the title. --DavidH Oz Au 09:09, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

You can also view the article here. You'll need to use internet explorer to view the video. --DavidH Oz Au 09:27, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia logo

Hello, David! Could you please reply to my most recent message regarding this issue at Wikipedia talk:Village pump (proposals)/Sidebar redesign#Logo of the redesign? I'm eager to understand the situation. Thank you! —David Levy 23:13, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] How to create guidelines

Hi there! I noticed your opinion that we need a more formal system for creating guidelines and policy. I can see some benefits to that (at least, it would eliminate quite a lot of confusion) but it also goes against our wikiflexibility. At any rate, the best approach would be to draw up a sensible way of making a rule, and getting discussion on that. For reference, I should point out that the French Wikipedia has such a system, including voting on policy proposals (try Babelfish if you don't speak French). I'd be happy to give feedback. However, please realize that until (and if) you get such a system in place, it remains an accepted practice here to write down common practice and call it "guideline" - and people are free to try and change common practice if they disapprove of it, and the guideline will follow suit if they succeed. Yours, >Radiant< 15:09, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Revert to Sonic the Hedgehog (character).

In regards to your recent revert, you might want to know why the article is not yet a feature article. Those changes I made were to solve some of the issues raised there, in particular, that the article should be written from an out-of-universe perspective; they were not vandalism. If you want to reply to me personally, please do so on my talk page under the heading Re:Revert to Sonic the Hedgehog (character). Thanks! --DavidH Oz Au 10:32, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Very well. However, since the cartoon and Fleewtay version don't have an article, perhaps they should be mentioned on this page or given articles of their own? Grandmastergalvatron 14:25, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

I agree, Sonic's representation in Sonic the Comic has been burning for his own article for a while, but I can't help but think that the new article would be sort of small and disjointed for a while. (Only the British seem to know much about the comic, and there isn't that much information there to go off anyway.) Another option would be to propose a move of Sonic the Hedgehog (Archie character) to Sonic the Hedgehog (character in spin off media) where all differences can be discussed; however it might be a bit big and I'm not sure everyone would like the size it could reach. :( If and when we do make a new article for the information, we can put it a nice summary section

Copying and pasting removed sections to the article talk page is probably our best idea for now though. It's just important to keep some sort of summary section in there somewhere; alternate versions seems to be a good place for that now. Whatever we do, I keeping it in the video game character article has probably contributed a bit of undue weight for some time now. To be honest, I've been meaning to fix this for a while. I just haven't gotten around to it yet. ;) --DavidH Oz Au 07:31, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Personal computer game

Heya, thanks very much for your comments on my talk page. I hadn't looked closely at the manual of style, and so didn't realise that the article violated it in the ways that you mention. Thanks for pointing those things out to me. And yes, I will certainly be trying to develop the article beyond GA class, if and when time allows. :) Daveydw ee b (^chat/_patch) 10:39, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Super Form article

I saw you opinions about making an article for all of the Super Forms. I like that Idea and it'd be good for the character's pages as well....any way we can follow through on this?GrandMasterGalvatron 15:26, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] sidebar

"Output of a script I wrote last night" - nice job. How about helping program the sidebar? --gatoatigrado 05:34, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for replying, if you think we can just edit monobook I'd be okay with that. I've already begun using MediaWiki:Htmlsidebar but I can go to Monobooksidebar if it would be easier to do it this way. It will not be difficult; all you have to do is encapsulate the sidebar output code something like "<?php function output_sidebar() { ?>" and "<?php } ?>". I'll get it to you in a few hours. --gatoatigrado 16:13, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

I finished what you gave me. I'm thinking of editing the toolbox for all pages. However, I don't know what the code for the cite this page link is, because it's not officially part of MediaWiki. The hack code (i.e. not as good as a solution where the user could actually define how the toolbox behaves) is at User:Gatoatigrado/sidebarhack. I hope it helps. Please feel free to critique it. I don't know if this is an acceptable solution. --gatoatigrado 17:12, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] sidebar edit - it's not the same

please leave a note next time you edit the sidebar page. Thanks for trying to help, but your edit isn't the same - note the "$isMonobook = false;" before the second if is evaluated. Using an else will automatically branch at parse/compile time, which is incorrect. The "$isMonobook = false;" is assigned so that if MediaWiki:Monobooksidebar isn't present, it will try the cache for MediaWiki:Sidebar before parsing MediaWiki:Sidebar. --gatoatigrado 03:21, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I'm sorry; I honestly thought it was an improvement. I was about to leave on note on your talk page explaining that but living in the "basement" means that when the family gateway goes down I can't leave a reply. It was up there in an edit window and suddenly poof! No more internet. :( --DavidH Oz Au 11:45, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

no problem. --gatoatigrado 16:47, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

This time I have put the addition for the toolbox on the talk page. :D Can you give it a quick once over and add it with the pretty printing please? Thanks. --DavidH Oz Au 10:44, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] arbitration relating to NNOT and radiant

Hi, I just put together an arbitration case at Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#Harrassment.2C_talk_page_vandalism.2C_and_non-consensus_changes_to_guideline. You've been directly involved with this, I think? I would greatly appreciate your comments. Thanks! Fresheneesz 05:29, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] sidebar toolbox

no offense, but I don't know what the point of building an array just to return it again is. I don't know what you are doing with the language thing; doesn't $this-$gt;get(<varname>) work fine? I kept it with the direct html echo for now so it's a bit more familiar. I will update the output screenshot soon. --gatoatigrado 07:26, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

I put the toolbox on my wiki, at http://wiki.ntung.com/. --gatoatigrado 07:44, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

I won't have time to work on this for a few days, sorry. There is one thing to do - the hr needs to go away if there are no items above or no items below. --gatoatigrado 07:46, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

please get another programmer to check this over. I think you can find the wiki development team somewhere. one was hospitalized though and brion vibber isn't getting back to me; his page says he's on break. --gatoatigrado 15:50, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

okay, so what do we do now? --gatoatigrado 05:06, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] sidebar done

Everything should work now. The code for the toolbox is much more concise. --gatoatigrado 20:28, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

I filed a bugzilla report. You can find the link on the programming talk page. Please review it yourself. Thank you. --gatoatigrado 20:42, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Looks good and I can't find anything wrong with it. The only thing missing from the proposal is 'cite this page', however, Special:Cite is not an official part of MediaWiki as you said earlier; the likelihood of its inclusion in MediaWiki's phase3 trunk is remote, so I'm not worried about it. Good job. :) --DavidH Oz Au 12:28, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. --gatoatigrado 16:00, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

People finally got back; I guess they didn't like it, probably for some legitimate reasons, but they weren't exactly polite either. If you have any comments / clarification on the bug report it would help. Thanks. --gatoatigrado 21:42, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Non-Notability

Hello,

An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Non-Notability. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Non-Notability/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Non-Notability/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, -- Drini 22:50, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] It really wasn't decided...

The way I view the original TFD discussion for {{Nintendo franchises}}, one user pointed out that the Bungie games template is also named by company. This leads a lot of other users to say keep because they do it too. Even though AMIB joined in later, the momentum was shifting to "keep." Now, here, Andre gives his exhausting, withering take on the template. AMIB votes early. You get in there within the first day, leading to a long discussion that leads you to conclude that the tempalte isn't useful after all. Same thing happens, but in reverse: the users read the long discussion, and the momentum shifts to "delete." Hbdragon88 07:55, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re I just patched the code

Hi DavidHOzAu,

I have updated the example I used at Template talk:Navigation#Header not centered...? so that it will work correctly in IE too.

Great; I'll file that "width:100%;" requirement in my head somewhere;

...you said you had copied the code to your user page for later reference, so I took the liberty of updating that copy as well.

Thanks for the courtesy of your message as well as edit summary! Best wishes, David Kernow (talk) 14:33, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sonic Template

I posted this on the talk page, but it seems to have been abandoned. I would say that the changes you made to the templates, although in good faith, actually do more harm than help. While the old template was kinda large, it was far more functional than what we have now. It's simply too much of an inconvenience for the reader to switch from a character like Amy to a character like Manic. (that's coming from someone who does that frequently as a part of article maintenance. Although I'm tempted to just revert the thing, I don't think that'd be right considering the effort put into it. I would like to see if we can reached some sort of consensus in order to enable the reader to flawlessly switch between characters of all universes as they please. Also, the template as it is now, supports "Sega Sonic" bias which should never be allowed here as it's just plain fancruft. GrandMasterGalvatron 14:45, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

When a template or an article becomes excessively large, it is convention to split them into separate pages. (see Wikipedia:Article size and Wikipedia:Summary style). Actually, the sheer size of the three Sonic templates, {{Sonic games}}, {{Sonic characters}} and {{Sonic features}}, were highlighted at WT:CVG#Navboxes yet again as being an endemic problem to most CVG-related articles. Besides, all Sonic-related articles that I know of can be navigated from Sonic the Hedgehog series. You see, separating spin offs from the central media is not fancruft in this case: it's common sense. --DavidH Oz Au 01:37, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re Requested fixes from Template talk:Navigation...

Hi again DavidHOzAu (David?),

I have made some fixes for the current version, i.e. the NavFrame version...

Thanks for your work! I was about to start investigating this (yes, as prompted here) but will now take a closer look at your message. Here's hoping you've sorted the gremlins, David Kernow (talk) 03:02, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

...position:absolute etc now in place. (Good grief, even I could've thought of that – thanks!) David (talk) 03:20, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
...and just realiz/sed you gave me that clue in the code on my user page...!

Re your NavFrame tweaks plus extension outside Navigational templates, recommend you approach fellow expert Mzajac; in addition to vetting the code, I'd say he's likely to know more bot owners (and know them more closely) than I. Meanwhile, happy to help facilitate your contributions in any way I can! Yours, David (talk) 03:30, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Doctor Eggman ref problem fixed.

I noticed on my watchlist that you were having some problems with the ref tag. The problem was that the trailing quote was missing, and I've fixed them for you. (diff) BTW, it appears that certain people are at it again with his stats. --DavidH Oz Au 05:16, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot :). And I've taken care of the edits.GrandMasterGalvatron 18:19, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Don't Destroy

I've started an essay called Don't Destroy. Thought you might like to look at it. Fresheneesz 00:47, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Need some help

Check out this debate in Rouge's talk page. This dude is actually trying to say that Sonic Channel isn't a reliable source, even though it's directly from Sonic Team. He's also insisting that Rouge should be mentioned as 17/18 even though that's a direct contradiction to Sonic Team's data. Can I get a little assistance here?GrandMasterGalvatron 15:09, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

done. Some additional ammunition is at WP:Undue weight. --DavidH Oz Au 11:46, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Help Create Wikiproject Sonic The Hedgehog

Themasterofwiki 13:14, 20 February 2007 (UTC)Hello I saw your comment on my talk page and I was wondering if you would like to help me create a Wiki Project Sonic The Hedgehog.

Sorry for the long delay, but I've been busy with offline concerns. For the record, we used to have a Wikipedia:WikiProject Sega, but nobody used it. It was eventually made into a task force of WikiProject Computer and Video Games, accessible via WP:SEGA. I don't think a WikiProject that is even more specific than WikiProject Sega will have much success. —davidh.oz.au 08:17, 3 March 2007 (UTC)