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Contents 1 untitled 2 Who else believes emory's theories and what is the origin of them? 3 What is Emory's take on the war in Iraq? 4 Current Events 5 dave not david 6 Questions re Buchanan following major revision

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According to the the spitfire website, Dave Emory does his broadcasts from Cupertino, California, which is located in the San Francisco Bay Area. His distributor is based in Ben Lomond, California, but he is not. --Ggus 05:20, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

He is a proponent of a belief that neofascists are using various aspects of popular culture - such as some forms of industrial music and gothic music - and the occult, to promote fascist beliefs.

Is there any support for this? Dave Emory says all kinds of hard-to-believe stuff, but has he really implied that?

--babbage 18:35, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

Yes, Mr. Emory really believes that. Woe to anyone that buys Mr. Emory's line of pro-Israel nonsense.

I have corrected the original claim. Emory did not make these claims about gothic or industrial music. http://www.spitfirelist.com/f211.html

--babbage 00:56, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Babbage clearly hasn't done his or her homework. The "pro-Israel nonsense" suggests that Babbage might be of fascist persuasion. In any event, there are firm indications of fascists at work in popular culture. Check out http://www.spitfirelist.com/f437.html

--wow, so all you need to do to become "of fascist persuasion" is to make a critical remark about Israel?

No, but anyone who characterizes Mr. Emory's work, on Israel or anything else, as "pro-Israel nonsense" is suspect. Just as anyone who dismisses the views of anyone who does happen to be pro-Israel as nonsense is suspect. The subject of Israel occupies a very small part of Emory's work. And, Mr./Ms. Babbage, anyone who has failed to note the efforts on the part of Nazis and other fascists to use popular culture to spread their message should tread lightly. There is abundant evidence of that.

In closing, note Emory's work on fascist/Zionist connections. You obviously know little about Emory or, for that matter, much of anything else.

>>Every group tries to influence popular culture. Saying "anyone who has failed to note the efforts on the part of Nazis and other fascists to use popular culture to spread their message should tread lightly." can be just as valid by substituting the word Nazis with "Scientologists", "NeoCons", "Catholics", "Jews". What's your point? Someone makes a comment regarding Israel and you automatically suggest that they are fascist. Nobody can criticize Israel without this sort of foobar. Saying "you obviously know little about ... much of anything else" really just shows how intolerant YOU are.

[edit] Who else believes emory's theories and what is the origin of them?

I remember seeing somewhere on the web, that like this article says, a lot of his beliefs were inspired by an old lady. Now I see that he gets interviews on his show frequently, so there must be a few people who believe his viewpoints. Is there any name they call themselves, or are called by others? I do not believe the blankent term "anti-fascist researcher" is adequate because if you look in that category, you will find a lot of anti neo-nazi and anti-"right wing nationalist" groups like in britain, very different then alledging real literal nazi's secretly in the us government. _____________________________________________________________________ Mae Brussell and Dave Emory... The late Mae Brussell inspired Mr. Emory. She was the first researcher to make the connections between the JFK assassination and Watergate. During the seventies and eighties she presented a weekly radio program and wrote many article for various publications, including Paul Krassner's The Realist magazine. Mr. Emory carries on her work with a deep reading of current events and presents their relation to history, in particular WWII. Mr. Emory's show was once called One Step Beyond and aired on Sunday evenings on KFJC in nothern California. His co-host was Nip Tuck, aka Tad Williams, the prolific science-fiction writer. Nip Tuck's good humor and enthusiasm combined with Mr. Emory's research for a fascinating blend of news and commentary. Mr. Emory has presented shows dealing with AIDS as a biological weapon, the O.J. Simpson case and white supremacy, UFOs and the New Age as politcal manipulation, the assassinations of JFK, RFK, MLK and Malcom X, mind control, etc. Currently Mr. Emory is focused on the connections between Islamic-Fascism and Hitler and German National Socialism.

I, for one, believe in him (sorta kinda). The information he provides is apparently solid and well researched; he is at the very least open about his sources, which is more than can be said about many "conspiracy theorists". The one major weakness is that his theories seem to be heavily based on guilt-by-association. Jonas Liljeström (talk) 00:30, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] What is Emory's take on the war in Iraq?

Does anyone know of any programs Mr.Emory has done on the neocons and their connection to the war in Iraq?

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There is an enormous amount of backlog on the Spitfire site, which is searchable, so discussions here can only point there[1]. If Emory is capable of anything, it's providing an abundance of information.

The neocons and, more succinctly, the Project for the New American Century are not exactly a secret, and discovering or promulgating a "connection" between them and the Iraq war is somewhere on the order of espousing a "connection" between Hollywood and, well, movies.

It's not esoteric stuff.

But Emory expands the context—neocons inlcuded—of the Iraq war (a "Proxy War"[2] in Emory's ken) into the larger framework of the oft-proffered Underground Reich theory. It may seem complex, outlandish even, but it isn't so crazy if you allow for the fact that institutions—like the German-based multinational cartels who bankrolled the Nazi rise in Germany—evolve. They do not simply go away. (In the case of the dye and chemical mega-cartel I.G. Farben, there is no historical precedent of its scale by which to really compare or comprehend it, much less track the course of its capital interests and maneuverings from the 19th century through the Cold War, and present the whole thing intelligibly.)

So, it's easy (and obviously useful to some) to marginalize, discredit and thus dismiss someone like Emory as a conspiracy nut—he is an outsider, his style is digressive, rambling, self-admittedly pedantic, and there's the voice thing, etc. He's basically a commentator, not an established scholar or professional journalist (to name only two professions whose credibility is slipping rapidly). Nor is he particularly pro-Israel, certainly not anti-Semitic, but basically—sounds corny—anti-fascist.

Rather than hitching his wagon to the established order where it's de rigueur to bank on the passivity, forgetfulness and weakness of a consumer-client-audience, Emory presents his work as an appeal to the listener, each listener: See for yourself, read for yourself, think for yourself.

Agree or not, to follow this admonition and delve into Emory's material—among which there are many fascinating and creditable writers to be found—will likely change your way of looking at history, and to many that is a threat. --Blaswell 06:15, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Dave Emory has mentioned Israel many times, including how Israel was set up to look foolish in the John Demnanjuk trial. His take on the Liberty incident is that the attack was deliberate and conducted in order to neutralize an NSA electronic intelligence gathering operation that was giving information to the Egyptian army. This operation was allegedly conducted in order to curry favor with the Arabs on behalf of the US oil lobby who have support Arab interests in direct contravention of official US State Department policy. So to state Emory will not discuss Israel, is not true

[edit] Current Events

Is it true that David Emory backs Israel's invasion of Lebanon?

I am not sure actually "backs" the invasion, however he strongly anti-Hizbollah (sp?). It is essentially an extension of Iran in the area which is lead by a holocaust denier, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. He is anti-Hamas because it's an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood. He has said he is basically supportive of Israel's existence and cause, however he also points out there are plenty of Israeli politicians who've done horrible things. He notes that there were some fascist elements within the Zionist movement.

-regular listener on his home station KFJC, Los Altos Hills CA.

If anyone is seriously interested in Emory's work, they should visit his website at: www.spitfirelist.com In addition to long, annotated descriptions of his programs, the website features a small library of long out-of-print anti-fascist books that are available for download for free.

Of particular importance is "Martin Borman: Nazi in Exile" by the late Paul Manning. [Manning was one of Edward R. Murrow's staff during World War II. The focal point of "Good Night and Good Luck", Murrow was one of the greatest broadcast journalists of all time. Manning broadcast the surrender of Germany and later Japan on the CBS radio network. Later, he undertook his research on the postwar activities of Martin Bormann and an SS underground. This research was conducted with the encouragement of Edward R. Murrow and was partially financed by CBS News, which eventually declined to go with the story.] A summary of the Manning text is available at: www.spitfirelist.com/f305.html Hope this helps.

We suggest that you visit Emory's website at: www.spitfirelist.com and use the search function. Try, for example, "PNAC" + "Zionist" and see what you come up with.

In general, if you would like to know what Emory says or thinks, or what his sources are, his voluminous website is the place to go.

[edit] dave not david

shouldn't the title of this page be dave emory? Peterhoneyman 14:32, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Questions re Buchanan following major revision

Looks like RFDodge has done the cleanup. Refreshing neutrality. Question: Is candidate John Buchanan one in the same as journalist John Buchanan? (See dismabiguation.) Is he really a frequent interview guest? Blaswell (talk) 14:18, 25 February 2008 (UTC)