Talk:Dave Pelzer

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This article was nominated for deletion on October 24, 2006. The result of the discussion was keep.

Apparently his mother and father have died. Don't know about his brothers. His mother never got into serious trouble because child abuse laws were too 'weak' in the 70s. --130.161.135.31 14:04, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

p.s. she died in 1992 and her name is Catherine Roevera

Contents 1 3rd worst case in California? 2 Documentation 3 Re-write May 1, 2007 4 Biased 5 removed "advocate for children's rights"

[edit] 3rd worst case in California?

Whoever expressed this opinion clearly overlooked Genie, resecued in California in 1970 and still living Genie (feral child) Althought Genie never wrote about her case of abuse, she should still be remebered for the tragedy that came amongst her!

[edit] Documentation

We all know this article is quite light on verifiable documentation of this case. To assist that, here is the list of people David thanks at the front of his book "Lost Boy". These names can be googled for information that could assist in verifying the details of this story. It should be noted, that the vast majority of David's story is told only by him and should be treated as a single source. If however any of these people have given interviews in verifiable, independent sources, that would be helpful. "To the teachers and staff who rescued me: Steven Ziegler, Athena Konstan, Joyce Woodworth, Janice Woods, Betty Howell, Peter Hansen, the school nurse of Thomas Edison Elementary School, and the Daly City police officer. To the angel of social services Ms Pamela Gold. To my foster parents: Aunt Mary, Rudy and Lilian Catanze, Michael and Joanne Nulls, Jody and Vera Jones, John and Linda Walsh. To those with a firm but gentle guiding hand: Gordon Hutchenson, Carl Miguel, Estelle O’Ryan, Dennis Tapley. To friends and mentors: David Howard, Paul Brazell, William D. Brazell, Sandy Marsh, Michael A. Marsh." Wjhonson 22:31, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Actually his mother died back in 1992 and his father is believed to have died between 1979 and 1982. The books do not state an exact date on his father's death. Also David stated his brothers were all treated perfect and never even hit. His brother Richard stated different. He insisted that all the boys were abused at one time or another but just not nearly as severe. he also stated he saw all his brothers being mistreated at times. David just got the worst of it while he got the second worst of it.

[edit] Re-write May 1, 2007

I re-did the whole article based on the one semi-legit source I could find. I removed everything that was unsourced based on the rules for bios of living persons. I will keep watching this page to keep junk out. Anyone who would like to add something that is fully cited should feel free to do so. --Chuck Sirloin 16:44, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

If he was kept away from the other family members, that would explain why he never once saw one of the other boys get hit. He was then taken into care. But in "A Man Named Dave", he states that in a meeting with his brother Russell when they were adults, he learned for the first time that the other brothers were subjected to abuse.

[edit] Biased

This article is a bit biased. Phrases like "her sick games" take a leaning position on the subject.

I noticed that too, and I've corrected it and added information about Richard Pelzer's book. Graymornings (talk) 08:32, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] removed "advocate for children's rights"

I removed the attribute "advocate for children's rights" from the lead, since there is no documentation of that inline nor any discussion/mention of it within the article. Pelzer speaks and sells his books simultaneously -- this does not qualify as advocating children's rights; it's advocating his books. Softlavender (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 21:00, 30 January 2008 (UTC)