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[edit] Quick ?

"In 1983, Mustaine was extremely angry after being kicked out of Metallica and his only goal in life was to create a band more successful than Metallica."

Is this really true? I mean, I know Mustaine was pissed about being kicked out but was this just supposition that his ONLY goal was to one-up Metallica? Did he ever state that?

205.238.205.220 22:15, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

I remember reading somewhere that at the time, he did want to, and I quote, 'out-metal' them. I think it was some form of book about the history of the genre. And yes it was from his mouth. I don't know if it was his goal to make them more successful...that's kinda pushing it.--Rp81 16:59, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Politics & Religion

Mustaine is a Christian Conservative with no party affiliation, he only voted for Bush based on the poor quality of the Democratic candidates. Hes made public statements about that and although his fans may not like it, thats the fact. UA is a perfect example of his views, right wing in the extreme in some areas.

Considering Megadeth made great use of both topics in songs, it's just as relevant to include Dave Mustaine's transition both politically and religiously in 2002.

If you don't think so, please bring this up. A couple anonymous users seem to be vandalizing the section (Injury and Retirement) a bit much. -Danteferno

Stop telling Lies about Dave's Political views. I'm sure He leads a private life now and has little need to waste his time with political issues. The job of the Rebellion is for the younger generation to continue. why do you think he continues to preach against Evil Doer's That make us fight each other. I hear also that You DANTEFERNO are a big history buff; my advice is to get an education in Histoy and stop watching the Hitler Channel...
157.145.220.9, before participating on Wiki. discussions, you should really read up on Wikipedia:No personal attacks. As for Mustaine "leading a private life" or having "little need to waste...time with political issues", the very public journal at the Megadeth website proves otherwise. -Danteferno

I took a stab at NPOV'ing this section (and retitling it). See what people think of the changes, most of which centered around the Bush/Kerry quote and the idea that Mustaine is now a hardcore Christian Republican; I'd characterize it more as having found a spiritual belief that has a core of Christianity, and he's no lockstep dittohead. Nae'blis 08:40, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

You got that right, Nae'blis. Most addicts never even make it to recovery, especially willingly, and of those who do, only a few of us make it very far. I know a guy from the program who had 18 years as a recovering heroin addict, relapsed and died. That's how it works if you don't stay on top of it everyday. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.187.144.76 (talk • contribs) 15:00, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

Something should be said about this. It is an important part of his life. 67.49.249.169 02:07, 28 June 2006 (UTC) He voted for Bush, but how does this make him a hardcore Republican? Seriously, alot of people voted for Bush because they considered him the lesser of two evils. You don't release an album called "The System Has Failed" and become biased towards one side of the political scale. - Steve

mustaine voted for bush? can you give me a link or something that can prove that? and if he voted for him then why did he have bush on megadeth's last album. and why would he bash bush like he does in interviews when he supposably voted for him?-nate

He said in an interview in Blender that he voted for him and he doesn't think he is a good president and has made a mockery of the office or something like that, but that he still was a better choice than Kerry. Dave doesn't seem to like politicians in general and I would say he just considered Bush to be the least sucky of the two candidates.--E tac 06:56, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jackson Guitar

In the part w/ the jackson guitar, he didn't get a "Modified Rhoads V" he got a King V. afaik the King V was around before mustaine joined up, and also had 22 frets. The Rhoads V has a shorter lower horn, Dave never had that.

- That's not true. According to Grover Jackson Mustaine asked for a more aggressive version of Gibson's Flying V, and Jackson took two of the longer halves of the Rhoads body and created the King V. Mustaine liked it, but requested it be made with a 24 fret neck. The rest is history...

[edit] Relapses

"...and has reportedly remained clean and sober since, give or take 16 or 17 relapses resulting in additional treatment" Edited this sentence. 16-17 relapses in 15 years is hardly "remaining clean and sober." "Give or take" would apply if there were, perhaps, 2 or 3 relapses... --mtz206 18:17, Jun 25, 2005 (UTC)

  • In a Metal Hammer interview he said that he suffered his nerve injury while he was in a detox - that's hardly remaining sober I guess... // Gargaj 19:13, 2005 Jun 25 (UTC)
    • FWIW, they call them alcoholics and drug addicts for a reason. It's because they can't stop using drugs and drinking. It wasn't that many years ago that people like that were simply locked in jail, an asylum, or given up for dead. Give the guy credit for trying.Gurp13|Talk 6 July 2005 01:14 (UTC)

[edit] parents' divorced when?

Anon changed the 'parents divorced when he was seven' line to '...when he was four' today - it's admittedly difficult to find evidence for or against, but nothing on Google leads me to believe this is correct. Maybe we should take out the date entirely, unless someone has an interview/bio as source for the timeframe? On the other hand, this was Anon's only edit so far, so it may have been vandalism. nae'blis (talk) 15:37, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Dave's near death experience

Why isn't there a little paragraph or stub in here about Dave Mustaine nearly dying as a result of an attempted suicide by overdosing on valium in Feb. 1993?

I don't know much about it, but I do know that "A Tout Le Monde" was made as a reference to his attempted suicide.

A tout le monde was not a reference to his failed suicide attempts, But Skin O' My Teeth most certainly was. CallumJenkins2

"... and even a hit that reportedly began as a suicide note, "A Tout Le Monde"." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youthanasia (You can also search Google and get dozens upon dozens of other references, all with the same general information.)

Also, it should be noted "Skin 'o My Teeth" first appeared on Countdown to Extinction, which was an album released in 1992. "A Tout Le Monde" was released in 1994 on Youthanasia.

I also think that Dave almost dying should be noted. 212.219.220.225 12:26, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

What about the song 99 ways to die. you should read the lyrics. --DABANANAMUFFIN (talk) 01:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Discography

Following on from a similar discussion on the Megadeth page, it may make sense to strip the Megadeth Discography from here and point it towards a new article. There's little point in having the same information mirrored both here and on the Megadeth page. Instead, a new Megadeth Discography article is suggested IainP (talk) 09:59, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm not familiar with the music page style rules, but I'm all for removing duplicated information. Is a separate page really the way it usually works? Also, that wouldn't include the MD.45 releases... -- nae'blis (talk) 15:56, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
I'll be honest - I'm not sure about "usually works" but if you compare this page to the 'deth one, it's literally the exact same (with the exception of MD45). I'd suggest in this instance leaving the MD45 info here as there are only (and will only ever be) 2 items in it, and just place a link to the Megadeth discography after it. I would suggest linking to the discog. from other major Megadeth band members' articles, though with so many coming and going after an album or so it may make more sense to only list the ones they were involved in with another link to the main Megadeth page. With Dave, this isn't a worry as (simply) no Dave = no Megadeth. IainP (talk) 16:07, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
Ahhh okay. A quick search [1] shows that this is common practice for large, well-known groups, although with a lower-case "d". Leaving the MD.45 stuff ehre and linking out to your new article sounds like the best of all worlds. -- nae'blis (talk) 16:13, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
I think I mentioned on the 'deth page that I'd do this on Jan 1 if I got no negative comments. I'll do this page at the same time. IainP (talk) 16:28, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Uhhh.

"One of the major arguments within the band occured when Mustaine decided to bring his dog to a rehearsal. He usually left it to guard his stash of heroin before he sold it, but on this day he brought it along. As they neared the building where the band were to play, Ron McGovney (the Metallica bassist at the time) was pulling up in his car. Dave's dog immediately began scratching at it and climbing on the bonnet. McGovney was angry and started shouting at Mustaine. Next Hetfield emerged from the building and did the same. Things got heated and Hetfield kicked Dave's dog. Mustaine threatened to hit James and Ron said: "If you're going to hit him, you'll have to hit me first." When Mustaine turned to him James added: "If you're going to hit Ron, you'll have to hit me first." To this Dave replied: "You win James!" and punched him. According to McGovney, James flew across the room. Ron then jumped on Mustaines back, was flipped and thrown against a wall. The other band members then got up and told Dave he was fired. He quickly left after collecting his stuff. The next day he went back to the rehearsal room, walked through the door and asked: "Can I be back in the band?" "Yeah, ok." Came the reply."

Although there's no doubt Dave would kick Metallica's collective asses with his hands bound behind his back, this segment is very unencyclopedic.

I agree. Also, there's a potentialy libelous statement in there (selling heroin?) so until someone can cite a source for the above, I've erased it. Once a source is proven, the original text is above - cut and paste it back in... IainP (talk) 19:29, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
Agreed. Why is it back? The source cited doesn't seem to hold that much detail, and the entire article reads like it was written by a schoolkid 86.151.227.179 07:31, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Disagreed. it's back because it holds A LOT of detail and offers those interested a greater insight into the tensions rising between Dave and fellow 'tallica members at the time. reads like a schoolkid? well they were school kids basically just coming out of their teens, what exactly do you want? James to say 'Ok, I didn't say "get your fuckin dog of his car man!" I said "David, would you be as kind as to remove your canine from the prescence of Ronalds automobile bumper plate please"' Its the way they said it, get over it. Bottom line is it's interesting, and if you all are not convinced because of your "citing" views, it may not be in the Oxford dictionary, but it was taken from interviews/talks with Dave, Lars, James and Ron which may just hold a little value, but I suppose that could be questioned as there must be a better source right? Right!??

Btw, I'm not too sure if he was selling heroin and can't be assed watching the documentary again so if someone could clarify that as I would have thought it was just weed or rocks at the most. Plus Ron left after the Beer down the Bass incident I'm 100% sure so if someone wants to put that after the dog kicking fight then that'd be good. Dimedude 18:41, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

I must request the users to please acquire a picture, which can be used in this article.

- Anirudh 04:54, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

There is no longer a picture because the wikinazis had it removed, it looks like somone needs to go to a megadeth show and take a pic with their digital camera and upload one or it will be removed. --E tac 00:49, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
Argh! Damn those wikinazis and their grasp of US copyright law! --ElKevbo 00:55, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorry but promotional pics released by the artist and hisgh school yearbook photos are not in violation of copyright laws. --E tac 01:01, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Not a Megadeth bio

Dave Mustaine is the central figure in the development of the band Megadeth, yes, but his Wiki shouldn't be a complete bio of the band! I've extracted much unecessary detail info on the band that should be integrated into the Megadeth Wiki. Fragments include the following:

Start

  • During the 1998 tour, Nick Menza had surgery to remove a benign tumor in his left knee and was replaced by Jimmy Degrasso. Menza was not asked back, and Degrasso went on to record
  • Following the Risk tour Marty Friedman grew tired of Megadeth and left to pursue other musical interests. The 2000 Maximum Rock tour saw guitarist Al Pitrelli (Savatage) to fill Friedman's shoes. In that subsequent year, the band recorded
  • Dimebag Darrell, who was recognized for his excellent playing; however, Dimebag agreed only if his brother Vinnie Paul could play the drums for the band. The band already had a drummer at the time, so instead
  • On post RIP albums: Some hardcore fans critized these two albums for being too commercial, as the new style was a bit of a departure from their previously established fast-paced thrash sound.
  • On TSHF lineup: He contacted many former members of Megadeth, however all the former members (with the exception of former drummer Nick Menza) were unable or unwilling to participate. Auditions began and Mustaine hired Iced Earth bassist James MacDonough and Eidolon guitarist Glen Drover. Menza was eventually fired for undisclosed reasons (Mustaine hinted that he could not adequately play any material, even his own old stuff) and was replaced by Eidolon drummer (and brother to Glen) Shawn Drover. Shawn Drover said that he was hired 5 days before his first show with Megadeth without having to audition.
  • at the end of 2005 megadeth performed in israel as part from theyr europe tour, they performed four songs in a local metal festival called "metalist".

End.

Good call. In the same spirit, I removed the "Bands who got their start..." section. --ElKevbo 04:51, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
I agree, and was just going to comment on this very thing. We have worked hard to make the Megadeth wiki one of the best. This article needs to focus more on Dave and less on Megadeth.

[edit] User:Jack O'Lantern

I have seen interviews that state that his background is English, Irish and French. His last name is Welsh however so there is definetly Welsh heritage in his background. He still spends a lot of time in England. The details below are correct though, if his name is Mustaine then he is ethnically Welsh.

Dave Mustaine's paternal family were Welsh Baptists from Virginia Colony; ancestry.com's source is Oxford University [2] and state that his name is North Welsh (a fairly distinguished one). Ancestry also shows his name (under two spellings) going back to Virginia and Pennsylvania in 1840, where Welsh Baptists and Welsh Quakers settled respectively. Saint David is the patron of Wales and professor David Hackett Fischer says that those from North Wales were part of a "frontier culture", which had (lost of saints names) Anglo-Scottish border names that includes Scott, Dave's middle name. Sir Walter Scott, Tony Scott and Ridley Scott among them holding this prominent Border Reiver name. You don't have to be a whiz to know that Dave even looks Welsh (like the Tudors), or Celtic at the least. I feel that Oxford University being used as a reference for both Ancestry.com and David Hackett Fischer is precedent enough. Hey, who the hell would dispute that Ronald Reagan was Irish, or that James Monroe was Scottish, or that James Polk was Northern Irish, or that William Henry Harrison was English, or that Martin van Buren was Dutch, or that Dwight Eisenhower was German, or that John Kennedy was Irish? This sort of thing is known or accepted by the average American, without question in most circumstances. You have to have a feeling for people, or else you are antisocial and don't know them at the essence of who they are inside. I also hardly think a teenager is well experienced to know such things either. Go into the world and meet people, then come back here and say you dispute all this stuff. Oh and make sure you contact Oxford University and Professor Fischer both. You'll kiss their ass, or at least look like one. I also edited the Ellefson (Norwegian), Newsted (English), Hetfield (English), Trujillo (Mexican), Burton (English), McGovney (Scottish, but more likely Scotch-Irish). Who disputes those identifications? Only somebody with a lack of education and understanding of people and ethnic background. IP Address 20:56, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Do you have a source that describes Mustaine, not his great-great-etc. grandfather, as Welsh or Welsh-American? If you do, you may list him as a Welsh-American. If you don't, you may not! This is so obviously simple that I'm not sure why I even have to explain it. You either have a source that says exactly what you want to say, or you don't. Wikipedia editors may not deduce who is or is not an X-American based on last names, the ethnicity of great-grandparents, and anything else that in anyone's opinion makes that person X-American, nor can you use the "everyone knows" argument, because if "everyone knows" something it should take you approximately two seconds to find a source that says so. If we have a source, that, say, using your above example, John F Kennedy is Irish-American, which we do, we can list him as Irish-American, which we also do as far as I know. It boils down to - you either have a source that says Dave Mustaine himself is Welsh-American or you don't have that source. There is little to discuss. Mad Jack 03:34, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
A agree with Jack. What you have done is clearly original research. --ElKevbo 04:50, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

The majority of entries should be deleted then. Go about and revamp entire ethnic categories, removing one person at a time. Or, you can get a life and shut the fuck up. IP Address 05:27, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Please be civil in your interactions with other editors. --ElKevbo 05:32, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
This isn't "in the article" until proven wrong. It's "not in the article until proven right". I also removed your above message. It is a personal attack. Mad Jack 05:34, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

In furtherance of my editing, I have found out MORE evidence to support this! Dave Mustaine's coat of arms (or at least the one he identifies with on The System Has Failed's lyrics for the "Shadow of Deth") are here: [3] If you seriously thought the way you did, then you would have to remove most Irish-American (including identification as Catholic) people so categorized merely by their surname and popular belief. I have here, at least background knowledge on Welsh-American colonists and Dave Mustaine's personal background. What have you to contradict this array of facts? Where are you in handling those so-called Irish Catholic American articles? Or, try the German American ones on for size! Instead, you attack well-referenced sources that must mean you have an agenda! I will now re-add this info. Make yourselves useful attacking unsourced edits to purported Irish and German Americans. IP Address 10:31, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

That's much better evidence. Still pretty close to original research but much better than your previous "evidence." Please make sure to add that reference as a source in the appropriate place(s).
And please cease making personal attacks on other editors. No one here has an agenda. --ElKevbo 12:41, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

It would have been different if you got involved in removing various unsourced ethnic additions on so many articles in which nobody is editing currently. Besides, my sentiment was WP:POINT in your case. One rule against another. By the way, looking up for oneself the little known ethnicity of some public figure is NOT original research...though it may appear to be. Some ethnic identity is widely discussed, while others aren't flaunted. Just because Dave's is more or less obscure, doesn't mean it is original research. This accusation of yours is a personal attack against my motive (WP:AGF). IP Address 14:16, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Re-read the entire paragraph you posted at the top of this section. That's pure research. "Looking up for oneself the little know known ethnicity" of anyone is original research, particularly when you're throwing their last name into ancestry.com or some other database. I respect what you do and I'm sure that your conclusions are factually correct. But it's original research and it doesn't belong in an encyclopedia article. Find a verifiable source that states it and then include it - that's how we work here.
And for the third time, lay off the personal attacks and town down the completely unnecessary aggressiveness. --ElKevbo 14:43, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
I don't understand. Where is this evidence? On the interviews or lyrics, there is no mention of the word Welsh. As for the last name Mustaine being Welsh, I have no doubt of that, but that is completely irrelevant to Dave Mustaine. I handle all X-American lists, actually, and I protect them from similar original research. Mad Jack 16:08, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

OK ElKevbo; I am sorry. Mad Jack, you actually think "X-American lists" are your territory to go unchallenged? I'm afraid that just won't do, especially when you are contributing very little information. You have marked your free spot on the internet and will fight over it until you grow weary of being apathetic. You are anti-intellectual as well, since you don't want to expand articles, only reduce them to disinteresting and cookie-cutter versions that have the least variation from any other encyclopedia. Don't you know how injurious to the Wikipedia community and the project itself is? You make us plain-jane and lose all the edge we used to have over our competitors. If all we present is what they have, then I'm sure we aren't working hard enough! Wikipedia was once able to impress a majority of internet searchers by having most of the cards, but it has become a tragedy because of edits by protectionists like yourself who don't see the future. Dave Mustaine claims the family crest, which is Welsh. A + B = C. Reading between the lines is not original research, but a natural tendency of those who compile data and attempt to make miscellaneous facts appear legible and direct to the point, as if making sense. Do cooperative facts mean nothing, or does your mind lack the capacity for logic and mathematics? Dave Mustaine is a gifted artist who can see the forest for the trees; all good musicians are good at math. Can you be a big a person as Dave Mustaine, or are you going to prolong this revert war because of insults I hurled when you illegitimately reverted good faith contributions of mine? ElKevbo surely understood my "I told you so" edit and became reasonable, until I continued with my own passive-aggressive behavior. Let's quit fighting; so just help me put the source into the article(s) properly. I don't know how to edit in "ref"s. Help me make it the proper and stylish encyclopedia that holds a standard format. I'm terrible at formatting. I also have messy handwriting, but I at least know how to look up sources and contribute in that sense. IP Address 23:04, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia isn't a debating society. You either have a source or you don't. If you have a source that says he is Welsh-American, you may list him as such. If you don't, there is little to talk about. Find a source that says exactly what you want to say. Mad Jack 23:11, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Oh, and speaking of A + B = C, you may want to check out WP:NOR, which explicitly, in wording, forbids A + B = C. If you find a reliable source I will format it myself, no problem with that. But you need a source that says he is Welsh or Welsh-Amer, not anything that in your, mine, or anyone else's opinion makes him that. Mad Jack 23:17, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I have an alternative to both versions presented. "Dave Mustaine is an Old-Stock American and has referenced the Mostyn family motto, in one of his songs and in an interview." This is the general gist, but I would flesh it out better with links. Notice how willing I am to compromise? Don't go for 3RR; hypocrite. IP Address 23:24, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

What is "Old-Stock American"? It sounds like some kind of weird label. I guess you could say "Source X called him "Old-Stock American" in reference to this or that", etc. You can say he referenced the Mostyn family motto, certainly, and cite it to that link. However, the whole Welsh info can't be in here unless there's a source for it relating to Mustaine. It's as simple as that. I do not understand what "compromise" means. There is no 50-50. There is either 100%, when a source says something and we report it, or there is 0%, when a source does not say something which means we can not put that somethin on here. I suppose we have 50-50 if we have to separate reliable sources contradicting each other, but in that case we just say Source A said this and Source B said that. You can put anything you want on this or any other article, as long you source it to a good source that says exactly what you put in. Mad Jack 01:55, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=GC-0Cjf7Ns0&mode=related&search= <- in an interview dave says his father was french-irish, theres some direct evidence from the horse's mouth! 71.126.12.86 03:27, 2 May 2007 (UTC)surge

Why dont u all watch VH1's Behind the Music and u can hear all this comin out of the artists' their own mouth ^^ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.198.212.117 (talk) 13:34, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Megadave"?

I can honestly say I've never heard him called "Megadave". I even did a Google search for the term, nothing on Mustaine. - Mewtation 12:16, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

ive heard this term many times. its based on two things. "dave mustaine is megadeth" and how dave is the only original member of the band. DarkstalkerM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76CbRDJGT0U&mode=related&search= <- arsenio hall calls him "megadave" at the end of the interview after megadeth perform symphony of destruction.

[edit] Megadeth or Mustaine?

Who's this article about? Seems to read like a Megadeth article, and not one about Mustaine. Rather poor really. LuciferMorgan 17:36, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree. Despite revisions this article still seems to talk more about the band. I think the current content is fine but there is hardly anything as to his more personal life. I have heard he is married and has at least one kid. Let's actually get some information about Dave on here! HotOne121 02:14, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Feuds?

What is this, WWE? 203.132.66.13 09:26, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

THe fueds are necesary to be shown, they give an idea of what dave's relationship with other guitarist is like. Childishknack 07:06, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Early life

anybody? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.150.86.20 (talk) 04:19, 15 January 2007 (UTC).

I have heard he was an orphan and lived with his big sister and her often abusive bofriends or something like that somewhere, can anyone confirm this? --E tac 04:25, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Check out the Megadeth VH1 Behind The Music, it sheds some light on his early years, including his violent alchoholic father, sisters and entry into metallica and so on. The Ravager 16:45, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Stage Presence

After seeing Megadeth twice now, ive noticed that Dave has said both times that talking during a show between songs is quote "a waste of time", this is more trivia I suppose and since I dont have a source except for everyone else that was at those shows... just putting it out there The Ravager 16:50, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Feuds

Is it neccessary to have such an extensive feuds section? It feels more like an article about a politician than an important hard rock/heavy metal star216.141.239.117 04:15, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

I agree, I can understand keeping the Metallica feud, but can we get rid of the 'Rotting Christ - Sakis Toli' feud at least?

Why? It has been widely reported and talked about in the metal community. Why should it not be on here?--E tac 17:16, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
Well, if people want to keep it on, can we at least make it longer than just one sentence?

[edit] Fromer Atheist/Agnostic???

Anyone have a source on this and why it is listed as a category. As far as I have heard from interviews Dave always had a belief that there was some sort of God and he even dabbled in the occult in Megadeths early days. I wouldn't say he was ever either an atheist or agnostic.--E tac 07:00, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

There are those who dabble in the occult yet still say there is no God. However, I do agree with you, I can't find any source to say he was an atheist/agnostic. IronCrow 04:36, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
Just read an interview, same one that said he was Christian, didn't realise it at first but he was never an atheist/agnostic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by IronCrow (talk • contribs) 02:19, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] dani filth

there for a while dave and dani had a feud. dave said bands with keybords were "gay" and dani took offense to that (let it be noted that the last two megadeth albums have keyboards). dani mentioned it in a revolver issue recently. the feud must have ended when dave sent dani's daughter some toys or something like that.

[edit] Fueds

This article seems to me like a People magazine or something. Shouldn't the "Fueds" section be narrowed down or something? Like the Rikki Rachtman section...? IronCrow 04:41, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. Mustaine's feuds are certainly worth mentioning, but the level of detail about ten separate disagreements seems way over the top for an encyclopedia article which is already very long. Too much "he said", "he replied", "he did this" etc. which adds nothing useful and will surely be of little interest to most people. Andy Berry 20:26, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] They are just feuds, not "blood feuds"

A blood feud is where somebody has been killed and his/her relatives or allies exact vengeance for the murder. There's no evidence that this is the case for any of the feuds or rivalries mentioned here. Ergo - removal of the word "blood" from the section in this context. Nizamarain 18:56, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] james kicked dave's dog not the other way around

or thats what dave says in their behind the music http://youtube.com/watch?v=dLmgCaYOYNU around 4:35 --MisterDie 00:26, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] HM Magazine article does not say Dave Mustain is not a born-again Christian

1st the HM Magazine article does not say Dave Mustain is not a born-again Christian.

2nd this is an interview that affirms the Christian-based spirituality of Megadeath bassist Dave Ellefson.

So, this is ill-sourced: doesn't source the claim and doesn't even have the right band member referenced in the article being interviewed.

So, I am removing the mis-sourced statement. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdhunt (talk • contribs) 06:01, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Finnish?

At least, according to this interview he has finnish ancestry