Image:David Noble on top of Second Sister Katoomba.jpg

[edit] Licensing

This file is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike 2.5 License. In short: you are free to share and make derivative works of the file under the conditions that you appropriately attribute it, and that you distribute it only under a license identical to this one. Official license

This photograph was taken by Troy Magennis. He is consequently the copyright holder. Troy has released this photo under the Creative Commons Attribution Share Alike license (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/).

This photo was uploaded by John Dalton with the permission of Troy Magennis. By way of proof I offer the following email record.

[edit] John's initial email

From:      John Dalton <john.dalton@bigfoot.com>
To:        XXXX@YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY.com[1]
Subject:   David Noble Photo
Date:      Mon, 26 Feb 2007 22:12:16 +1100


Hi Troy,

Are you the Troy Magennis(s) who took the
photo on the web page linked to below please?

http://web.archive.org/web/20041015022943/http://www.lisp.com.au/~daven/index.html

If so, do you mind licensing the photo under the
GNU Free Documentation License, or a Creative
Commons license, as I would like to upload the
photo to Wikipedia?

Regards
John Dalton

---
Sydney, Australia

[edit] Troy's reply

From:      Troy Magennis <XXXX@YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY.com>[1]
To:        John Dalton <john.dalton@bigfoot.com>
Subject:   Re: [SPAM-LOW] David Noble Photo
Date:      Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:46:31 -0800  (Tue, 08:46 EST)

Hi John,
 
Yes, You have the right Troy Magennis.
 
I have no problems with it being used on Wikipedia, I just need to know the topic, before I give a licence.
 
Troy.

[edit] John's reply

From:      John Dalton <john.dalton@bigfoot.com>
To:        Troy Magennis <XXXX@YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY.com>[1]
Subject:   Re: [SPAM-LOW] David Noble Photo
Date:      Tue, 27 Feb 2007 10:03:00 +1100

Hi Troy,

I want to add it to the "David Noble (canyoner)" article on Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Noble_%28canyoner%29

Hopefully you will agree that the article is accurate.  If not,
it would be much appreciated if you could correct any errors
or misunderstandings.

I recognise that as the photographer it is your prerogative
which license you choose to release the photo under.  For
compatibility with the rest of Wikipedia authors are requested
to consider or more the following licenses
* GNU Free Documentation License
(http://www.gnu.org/licenses/fdl.txt)
* Creative Commons Attribution Share Alike
(http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/)
* Creative Commons Attribution
(http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5/)
The first two are "copyleft", the last is "BSD" style.
Maybe you are already familiar with the above licenses?

I must point out that I cannot enforce that the photo will
only get used in the David Noble article.  Contributing
to Wikipedia does involve having faith in others.  Almost
without exception this faith is justified.  By way of
demonstration your photo has been on David's home page
since 1997 and that in turn has been linked to from Wikipedia
for almost two years.  Hopefully you are not aware of
any abuse in that time (I'm not aware of any).

To get the photo into Wikipedia you can either send
me an email containing your license terms and I will
do the rest (downloading the photo from David's home page
in the Internet archive), or if it makes you more comfortable
you can create a Wikipedia account and upload it yourself.
If you want to include a higher resolution version
please feel free to do so.

I'm keen to see the photo in Wikipedia and hope you
are too!  As the comment on David's home page says,
it is "a nice photo" and its presence will
add to the David Noble article.

Regards
John Dalton

[edit] Troy's reply

From:      Troy Magennis <XXXX@YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY.com>[1]
To:        John Dalton <john.dalton@bigfoot.com>
Subject:   Re: [SPAM-LOW] David Noble Photo
Date:      Mon, 26 Feb 2007 15:17:16 -0800  (Tue, 10:17 EST)

Hi John,
 
Thats fine. 
 
Not knowing much about the licences, I pick 
 
* Creative Commons Attribution Share Alike
(http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/)
 
I love Wikipedia, so there is no issue with trusting it. Your right, not many people are like you and actually get the OK to use the photo. Nice work.

Let me know if there is anything else I can do. I've BCC'd Dave on this email just in case he has any issue or wants to check the article's accuracy.

Regards,
Troy.

1. ↑ ^{a b c d} Troy's email address has been obfuscated in the above to prevent spam. To reconstruct his email address, replace "XXXX" with "troy" and "YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY" with "aspiring-technology" in the above.

• David Noble (canyoner)