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Hello, Darkieboy236! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. You may benefit from following some of the links below, which will help you get the most out of Wikipedia. If you have any questions you can ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking Image:Wikisigbutton.png or by typing four tildes "~~~~"; this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you are already loving Wikipedia you might want to consider being "adopted" by a more experienced editor or joining a WikiProject to collaborate with others in creating and improving articles of your interest. Click here for a directory of all the WikiProjects. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Happy editing! LittleOldMe 12:04, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Toptoners

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[edit] Resourceful internet solutions

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[edit] Autobiographical information

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[edit] Edit summaries

Please make sure that you include suitable summaries when editing pages other than your own userpages. You have not included any summaries for High Street, Lincoln. See Help:Edit summary. Adrian M. H. 14:22, 1 April 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Your edit to BT Italy

[edit] Message posted on Tuesday, May 1, 2007

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Loganberry (Talk) 15:24, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] This edit [1]

Hi. Do not change the titles of references. The title of the Bloomberg reference said 4.1, fact. Now they may be right or wrong, but that IS the title of the article. Mark83 16:37, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm not "panicing". You were wrong to change the title and you would be better admitting that than being condescending. Also the correct place to address other users is their talk page (e.g. User talk:Mark83) not their user page (e.g. User:Mark 83). Cheers. Mark83 17:24, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
It is clear you changed the title of my reference because you thought the figure to be wrong. I am correct that you were wrong to do it. As for shouting, that was not my intention, it was to place emphasis (bolding not possible in edit summaries). So I apologise for that impression. One more thing about talk pages; it is convention to put new posts at the bottom. Thank you. Mark83 20:42, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
And remember to sign your posts using ~~~~. 00:56, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wigan Pier

Hi Darkieboy - good stuff on the Wigan Pier article, but don't forget to sign your comments on the talk pages, by adding four tildes (~~~~). as this will help future contributors to follow the thread. also, adding an increasing number of colons at the begiunning of each paragraph produces an indent, and is the convention when replying to a previous comment

so that each linked contribution (this para starts with ":", )
flows on to the next (this with "::",)
and so on... (and this one with ":::".)
etc. etc.

Cheers, Lynbarn 08:21, 24 May 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Using talkpages

Hi Darkieboy, when leaving messages on talk pages, PLEASE sign them by adding ~~~~ and also, when including links to wiki articles, use the wiki tools, ie [[Wigan Pier]] instead of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wigan_Pier

Thanks, Lynbarn 14:36, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the info and tips, I'm fairly new to Wikipedia, so bare with me if I make mistakes. Mark.
Not to worry, you're learning pretty fast! Lynbarn 15:47, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Notability of The Way We Were (disambiguation)

Hello, this is a message from an automated bot. A tag has been placed on The Way We Were (disambiguation), by Whstchy, another Wikipedia user, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. The tag claims that it should be speedily deleted because The Way We Were (disambiguation) seems to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

To contest the tagging and request that administrators wait before possibly deleting The Way We Were (disambiguation), please affix the template {{hangon}} to the page, and put a note on its talk page. This bot is only informing you of the nomination for speedy deletion, it did not nominate The Way We Were (disambiguation) itself. Feel free to leave a message on the bot operator's talk page if you have any questions about this or any problems with this bot. Thanks. --Android Mouse Bot 2 22:44, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

This is a link to a museum which is run by a local authority/council and therefore is non-profit making and the only connection to myself is that I was born nearby. The Way We Were building was in existence in circa 1777 and therefore pre-dates the film of the same name from 1973. The Way We Were museum serves local and regional schools in an educational role by depicting life in 19th century Britain. The museum also holds a conservation role for the built and industrial environment in the local area. I have yet to add further information to the section on the Wigan Pier entry about the actual museum...I hope you understand. Mark.

Darkieboy236 00:09, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dynamic Cassette International

The full text of your deleted article is as below... be sure to include claims to notability when recreating this article to avoid further deletions. Cheers... -- Longhair\talk 09:47, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Dynamic Cassette International (DCI) is a Boston, Lincolnshire, UK based inkjet cartridge manufacturing company, producing products under the Jet Tec brand name. DCI is the sole UK manufacturer of inkjet cartridges.

Your article still falls short of meeting the criteria for corporations. I've added the {{primarysources}} tag to notify editors the article is lacking external sources not directly related to the company which is the subject of the article. -- Longhair\talk 11:29, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. I've removed the notice. Broadband problems afoot here too. Must be catching :) -- Longhair\talk 05:50, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] An English passport?

Hello Darkieboy236!

It seems a debate about the use of nationality and ethnicity has been stirred on the Bernard Manning article talk page (I do beg your pardon!). It is my believe that nationalism is spoiling the integrity of some articles, and have had Union flags and citations removed with no justification. Some are even asserting there is an English nationality!

Your comments are very much welcome on the talk page, as I feel I'm talking to a brick wall. Jhamez84 22:03, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

That's a pressure group - trying to restore the boundaries. It wouldn't exist if the boundaries had changed. It's a very old debate that was solved along time ago (see our policy Wikipedia:Naming conventions (places)). The Heptarchy was never abolished, Pangea was never abolished, but today at least, we use the ceremonial counties of England as a geographic frame of reference thank you. There's an overwhelming consensus and body of literature which insists upon this. Jhamez84 10:19, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] High Street, Lincoln

Hi Darkieboy236. I thought I'd let you know I've removed the list of premises from the High Street, Lincoln article for the reasons I have given on its Talk page. Sorry about this as it's obvious it took a long time to build it all up. --A bit iffy 10:51, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi again. I've put a formal response on that Talk page. Actually, I suspect you're perhaps a bit put out about me deleting all that - if so, then sorry again. Also, I happen to know from personal experience it does take a long time to compile things like that because, curiously enough, I looked into (and started) doing something along similar lines but stopped as it was just taking too long. (It wasn't for Wikipedia, though, so if you're interested in my findings/thoughts you can contact me offline at z4eeotztit3c65m@jetable.net (which is just a temporary e-mail address valid for the next week only). Cheers, --A bit iffy 17:48, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edit warring

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content which gains a consensus among editors. --Mais oui! 13:12, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Please ignore Mais oui!, he's the biggest edit war monger on Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.158.163.143 (talk) 14:31, August 30, 2007 (UTC)

How can I use the talk pages when Mais oui! keeps deleting my comments about the subject on his talk page? Mais oui! is stifling input and thought and censoring comment. This is a blatant attempt at censorship through vandalism.
Mais oui! seems to have a problem with spoonerisms also, ref his comments regarding my user name, itself derived from a spoonerism. This is ignorance, and nothing to do with blatantly offensiveness. Mais oui!, did you ever consider asking me where my user name originated? Mais oui!, did you ever consider asking me my ethnic origin? Mais oui!, did you ever consider entering into a discussion about my username? No, no and NO! Why don't you ask me about it? I might just explain to you! How about that? Darkieboy236 08:52, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] United Kingdom Location

A British company based in a United Kingdom is always based in the UK. The UK is the internationally recognised name of this country, not Scotland, England Wales nor Northern Ireland nor even Great Britain. I have no problem with any of the four regions being stated, but the UK must also be listed, as the UK is the official, legal and sovereign country name, like it or not. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia and therefore must state accurate facts, not people's own personal preferences. In my humble opinion, this is a non-argument and the United Kingdom should take precedence. Darkieboy236 15:51, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Dear Darkieboy236, User:Mais oui! removed your message from his talk page on the grounds that he doesn't allow people with offensive user names to post on it. This is quite typical behavour by him if he disagrees with what someone has to say and he has no cogent argument to counter it. I have reverted the removal. A great many contributors agree with what you say, but Mais oui! is notorious for pushing his own POV to a degree amounting to obsessive compulsion - poor guy! 217.43.68.63 17:13, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi there Anon, Thank you for your message. My user name is derived from a spoonerism of my actual name, and has no racist or offensive actual meaning. Your comments are much appreciated. Mark. Darkieboy236 23:21, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content which gains a consensus among editors. See WP:HARASS and WP:TALK, and please refrain from interfering with a user's legitimate management of his own talk page. .. dave souza, talk 22:08, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re constituent countries + UK

Hi, just wanted to quickly post a message saying I agree entirely with your edit: the addition of UK is a good idea, on top of the named constituent country, for UK university info box fields. My reverts/edits of a user who was replacing the constituent country entirely (i.e. removing it, in preference for UK, which is POV pushing) were done quickly so I didn't have time to add it myself unfortunately. Basically: I agree that both should be listed. That way we avoid POV pushers and the article is factually correct. ColdmachineTalk 09:20, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Care needs to be taken not to clutter articles uneccesarily with the addition of "UK" just as a matter of principle. For instance London and Rotterdam in the article on Unilever are sufficiently well known not to need the addition of their countries - note the articles on these cities do not have the country in the title. For the very small number of people who may be confused, there is a difect link anyway. IMHO these country additions simply add clutter for no gain. :) Abtract 11:00, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Stating the UK is consistent with other Wiki FTSE 100 company entries and also accurate. The possibility it is cluttered is not an issue with regards the fact, but an issue with regards the layout of the page itself...perhaps this should be addressed? Other encyclopaedias would and do state "London, UK". There is no reason Wiki should be any different. It is essential to have consistency across Wiki and this Unilever article is now inconsistent. Darkieboy236 11:16, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
Asthetics are important and sometimes more so than principles and consistency. Abtract 11:19, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Vodafone Following your recent message, please update the link 1, which results in an invalid page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jnason (talk • contribs) 16:01, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:FLAGCRUFT

Please have a look at this page before plastering every single infobox with flags, thanks. --Barryob Vigeur de dessus 23:37, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

I would say the same. Your additions at BAE Systems seem to add no encyclopedic value to the page. Please review the question I asked at Talk:BAE Systems. --John 16:15, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
I third that! Please review my comments at Talk:BAE Systems also. Further BAE Systems' registered office is in Carlton Gardens, London. However a registered office does not have to be where a company conducts it business and in this case it isn't. BAE's HQ is in Farnborough, and that's what the infobox parameter is about.Mark83 16:38, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "England" -v- "United Kingdom" on American Express

Please stop adding "United Kingdom" to the description nature of the American Express location. "Brighton, England" is correct as that is the location. "Brighton, United Kingdom" isn't correct because while "The United Kingdom" is the name of the country, it is not the name of a place. Adding "United Kindom" is also wrong because "Brighton, England, United Kingdom" is un-necessarily fussy in editorial. 87.127.44.154 12:52, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

INCORRECT. How can the UK not be the name of a place? The UK is the name of the country (a place) that I am from. The United Kingdom is the correct place as England is not a legal entity in itself. The UK is correct because it is the official, legal and sovereign state that Brighton resides in.Darkieboy236 13:25, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
What on earth are you talking about? The United Kingdom is not a country and never has been. It maybe a Nation State, but it isn't a country. It is a nation state made up of the countries England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
And regardless of this, this section in the article isn't talking about a legal entity but about a location. The United Kingdom is not a location because it is shortened form of "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland".
Is Brighton in Northern Ireland? No.
Is Brighton in Great Britain? Yes.
What part of Great Britain? England.
If you think "England" is not a legal entity ask yourself why we have English law?
I do not want to breach the Three Revert Rule so I am seeking a third opinion from elsewhere. I don't know why you appear obsessed with unhelpful edits, but there is nothing to be gained by removing helpful locations to unhelpful locations. England is the location. 87.127.44.154 13:50, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Correct: UK is shortened form of "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". Correct: Brighton is not in Northern Ireland. Correct: Brighton is in Great Britain. Wiki itself states the following:
"The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (also known as the United Kingdom, the UK, or Britain)[7] is a country,[8], sovereign state and European Union Member State to the north-west of mainland Europe" on UK! Check your facts before you quote.
Correct: Brighton is in the England part of GB. However, Brighton is in the United Kingdom. This is the official, legal and sovereign state. Brighton is in the United Kingdom. If England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland were countries in their own right they would be represented at the UN and EU as such, would have their own head of state and Prime Minister (and not a shared ones which are the Queen and Gordon Brown).
INCORRECT: We don't have English law. We have English and Welsh Law (Law in Wales Act 1535). This law is applicable through GB except Scotland, which has its own legal system (with the exception of the House of Lords and possibly some other entities which have jurisdiction right across the UK. This is comparable to other nations that have two or more legal systems in one country.
Furthermore, if England was a country in its own right, then I would have a passport issued by England and not a British passport issued by the GOVERNMENT of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. END OF STORY. Darkieboy236 14:15, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
You are confusing "country" with "state". I will not argue this forever with you. I am seeking advice as to how to take this issue for a wider WP community consensus 87.127.44.154 15:24, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
That's fine, I am quoting info from Wiki. Take it to WP, that's fine, it's the Wiki community that has stated the info on the UK entry. When I search your IP address it states "The IP address 87.127.44.154 is located in:
United Kingdom (United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland)". It does not say that you are in England, Wales, Scotland or Northern Ireland. That is because these are not the name of the sovereign country. The UK is the one and only sovereign country on this island. Darkieboy236 15:37, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
But the reference in the article isn't about sovereign nation, it's about the location. And Brighton is in England. Sovereign nation, state, country or anything has nothing to do with WHERE Brighton is. 87.127.44.154 15:59, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Brighton is in the UK, England is not relevant. No argument. Darkieboy236 18:49, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Since England is more specific it is preferred to UK in this instance. No argument. Abtract 23:25, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

You have reverted much the same edit 4 times in the last 24 hours and presumably are in danger of being blocked. You might like to consider that simplicity and clarity are preferred to pedantry and that yours is not the only view (despite signing off with "no arguement" and "END OF STORY". Abtract 10:59, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

People, users and contributors, have not expressed any confusion with the UK since the entry was first added. I see no reason why it should be changed to England, UK being the official, legal and sovereign entity. If you continue to vandalise this entry then I will report you.Darkieboy236 11:20, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Please do so. Abtract 15:37, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Blocked

31 hours for a 3RR violation. My usual entry level block is 24 hours but I have added a bit because you have signally refused to consider any compromise on this and because you haven't attempted to use the article talk pages to reach a consensus. When your block expires I strongly advise you to discuss contested changes on article talk pages rather than revert warring over your preferred version. Spartaz Humbug! 16:27, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Surely it is the responsibilty of the person that made the change to discuss and justify any changes made and not to keep changing an established article?Darkieboy236 17:34, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
I hope we can work together to improve wp when yr block expires. I suggest that we find some way of opening a debate on the issue of how to define British places in order to get a consensus ... I have learnt the hard way that this is best. Abtract 21:56, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Procter & Gamble

Thanks for the helpful vivisection facts that you have added to this page. I can't see the ref for the first sentence on what they test on now though - currently ref 14. Can you point out the page in the document where it says that?Obina 19:08, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the feedback. I will check the reference for you, but will be tomorrow or even the day after as I am currently at work and don't have my primary sources to hand.Darkieboy236 19:40, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Great. The link to ref 14 on the page seems right - the title matches etc. It does have many facts we can add - just not the one you have in the article now now. Also ref 15 is not a WP:RS as is - if you have more information like its title and where a copy can be inspected that would be helpful.Obina 22:23, 27 September 2007 (UTC)