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[edit] Noteworthy?

I guess the question is ... are double homicides committed by a pair of teenagers in a peaceful, rural New England, college town notable. I believe both Half and Susanne have several published works of their own. Especially Susanne appears to have been a prolific writer. (I will add materials to the article as time permits.) The article available from the CourtTV link has a lot more information from which we could base a more substantial article. Interestingly, another double homicide was committed in Hanover, NH in June of 1991. Such events, while they happen all the time world wide, do shake up a region that often can have the attitude 'Oh, but that cannot happen here ...' Keesiewonder talk 01:45, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

  • When I searched for Boston Globe archives trying to see if there was, as claimed on some web sites, an article about Archimedes Plutonium in them, there were articles on this case coming out of its ears (but no sign of any article mentioning Plutonium). One can also find articles on the World Wide Web such as this. See Glasgow Ice Cream Wars for what articles about such cases can become, with a bit of attention. All that is required is for editors to edit. Uncle G 00:46, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Since nobody has really replied to this... the citations/references/further reading for this article could be improved a bit, but there are at least two published books about the murders and trials, which were covered extensively in newspapers and national television news coverage, all of which more than satisfies the Wikipedia criteria for notability. Archimedes Plutonium's tangential relationship to the case is documented in the Francis book, pages 87-92.--Kharker 02:58, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Materials

  • A review of Judgement Ridge in the New York Times Book Review ISSN 0028-7806 by Andrea Higbie, yr:2003 vol:153 iss:52655 pg:28
  • A book review by Half Zantop reviewing the book Annotated Bibliographies of Mineral Deposits in Europe (ISBN 0080302432) (by John Drew Ridge). Zantop's review is called "Earth Sciences" and is in American Scientist ISSN 0003-0996, 1985, Vol. 73, Issue 2.
  • A book review ("A Necessary Resource") by Half reviewing the book Annotated bibliographies of mineral deposits in Europe: Part 2: Western and South Central Europe (ASIN B000OGX08O) (by John Drew Ridge) in Resources Policy, ISSN 0301-4207, March 1992.

[edit] Rename

The biggest problem with this article is its name. It shouldn't be named after the victims, because that is a highly misleading and overly narrow scope for the article. It shouldn't just be a biographical article about these two people. The (copious) sources deal not only with the biographies of the victims, as background, but with their murders, the lengthy investigation, the many false leads, and the subsequent court cases. I've only skimmed many of the sources, but most of them appear to use the name the Dartmouth Murders. Uncle G 14:43, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

  • I can go with that, at least for now. The renaming also opens the possibility of including the other pair of folks murdered on the edge of the Dartmouth campus. I will provide their names here later today. That case was not an investigational mystery like the Zantop case, though. Keesiewonder talk 16:56, 24 March 2007 (UTC)