Talk:Darryl Kile

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Jon Emerson >>> Why is there so much talk about Jack Buck? It really does not matter that he died 4 days before and his son announced Darryl's passing on Fox. There are probably many more noteworthy things to mention in this article. As it stands now, mentioning Jack Buck just seems like a cheap plug for some publicity.

[edit] Eckstein Reference

The reference to Kile's hitting Eckstein in the last sentence of the paragraph about Kile's last game sticks out like a sore thumb. It's a weak coincidence, which I don't think is enough of a reason for it to be in this article. Davewho2 07:25, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Marijuana

It was widely reported that a sack of weed and paraphernalia were found in his hotel room. Why is this not mentioned in the article? Even if it didn't contribute to his death, doesn't it seem relevant to include this information??? Johnnydader

You answered your own question. davewho2 23:35, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

I guess I am confused here... do you mean that i answered my own question as, "it didn't contribute so it's not relevent" or "it didn't contribute but it's still relevent?"

Since it didn't contribute to his death, it's irrevelant.davewho2 01:31, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

If he was found dead with a passed out hooker, I bet it would be mentioned even if it didn't contribute to his death. If he was found dead with a pair of pink panties on and it was widespread in the media, I bet it would be mentioned too.

If he was found LIVE in his hotel room with marijuana it would be mentioned. There are several professional athlete's pages where it is mentioned how they busted with some type of drug. Randy Moss's page mentions that he had a small amount of pot when he ran into that traffic cop with his car. It probably didn't contribute to his ramming of a cop (at least it was reported he was stoned at the time), but it was widely reported and relevant enough to be mentioned.

The CBS news article cited in the article makes extensive mention of the fact and explicitly states it didn't contribute. The point is that CBS news found it relevant enough to mention, and the CBS news article was relevant enough to be cited here. My suggestion: add it and state that it didn't contribute. Just my two cents. I hope that you are not fighting this because you think it will tarnish Kile's name. (Johnnydader 06:09, 7 May 2007 (UTC))

I'm also of the opinion that it is not relevant or of encyclopedic merit. It's rather trivial. For the record, there is lot of trivial stuff in the Randy Moss article that really isn't of encyclopedic merit either. I see no reason to emulate that in the Kile article. Think about the "100 year test" and if people wanting to read about Kile and his death will find anything of lasting encyclopedic interest in the fact that there was some pot found in his hotel room that had nothing to do with his death? It's like mentioning that he got a speedy ticket the day before or something. Agne^Cheese/^Wine 19:00, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

One could argue that weed-->munchies-->high cholesterol-->heart attack. J/K guys ;)

Because at the time of his death it was widely reported and speculated upon that drug use may have contributed, I don't think it would have hurt to have mentioned. I mean that's why I went to this article in the first place, I couldn't remember if it was drugs that did the guy in. Anyway, Agne, I can agree that it wouldn't pass the 100 year test, so I'll give it up. Although, truthfully, there are only about 5 lines worth of this article that would pass a 100 year test. Johnnydader 19:40, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm going to jump in again quickly with two things: 1) You came to the article to see if drugs "did the guy in." They didn't, so it wasn't mentioned. 2) When has pot done anyone in? I'm not a huge advocate, but that he had pot in his room is absolutely trivial and not nearly as exciting as pink panties or a passed out hooker. davewho2 01:32, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

1)After Hancock's passing, I started to think about Kile. I remembered that some type of drug was found in his room and couldn't remember what the story on that was - I though maybe he OD on coke. I got my answer, albeit not from the wikipedia article.

2)I know that you can't OD on pot, I have tried many, many times. That's part of the reason I want it included - I like to hear when famous people (or moderately famous in Kile's case) are found dead/alive to be pot smokers. Kinda puts everything in perspective, like if you saw Bill Gates buying some sweat pants at Wal-Mart - "Hey, that guy's just like me!" The other reason I want it included is to avoid the confusion that I had as to the story on the drugs found in his room. Yes, it's trivial and, like I said, it won't pass the hundred year test so I have given up on it. Johnnydader 04:10, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Separation suggestions

The Astros part also contains information about Kile's early life. If I'm reading about Kile's time with the Stros, it shouldn't start "Kile was born in xxx in California". Also, the death section could probably be split up and fleshed out. Maybe a description of the circumstances surrounding his death, then a separate split for teammate/league/media reaction. Phyrkrakr (talk) 16:56, 6 December 2007 (UTC)