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[edit] Dr Darko Trifunovic first introduce the concept of Bosnian "White Al Qaeda"

ref [1] Serbian news outlets have been reporting with increasing intensification in recent days on attempts by Islamist terrorist groups, including Al-Qaeda, to recruit soldiers among Bosnia's Muslims. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexandra011 (talk • contribs) 23:51, 25 March 2008 (UTC) 2008-03-28 The dots begin to connect in a radical network that reaches from Bosnia across Western Europe as police in Bosnia arrest five suspected of plotting to attack Catholic and EUFOR objects, ISA's Anes Alic and Damir Kaletovic report ref [2].

[edit] Dr Darko Trifunovic lectures on the various connections of Islamic terrorists in the region - George C. Marshall European Center for Security Studies

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Over 150 security sector specialists gathered at the Sava Center in Belgrade for the Security and Society Forum: ‘Terrorism and Religious Extremism’ to discuss the importance of networking to combat terrorism, web-based terrorism and perspectives of religious terrorism in Southeast Europe. Mr. James Roberts, US Deputy Director, Marshall Center and Professor Katharina von Knop, Adjunct Professor, Program on Terrorism and Security Studies, Marshall Center were guest speakers along with Dr. Zoran Dragisic and M.A. Darko Trifunovic, University of Belgrade, Faculty of Security. Participants included Marshall Center alumni, University of Belgrade students and faculty, the National Defense School, foreign embassy officials as well as officials from the security sector of Serbia. The alumni used the Forum to present the Marshall Center Paper No. 7 in Serbian. In addition, two Alumni Association commercial books, translated into Serbian, were offered to participants. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.216.116.64 (talk) 11:16, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dr Darko Trifunovic Speakers and guest lecturer at ICT “Terrorism’s Global Impact”

ref [4] International Policy Institute for Counter-Terrorism (ICT) is the leading academic institute for counter-terrorism in the world, facilitating international cooperation in the global struggle against terrorism. ICT is an independent think tank providing expertise in terrorism, counter-terrorism, homeland security, threat vulnerability and risk assessment, intelligence analysis and national security and defense policy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.216.163.10 (talk) 09:26, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dr Darko Trifunovic is analyst of the International Analyst Network

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The International Analyst Network is a profile-based community to provide the perfect environment for interactive blogging, self-publication, and the best source of personalized up-to-date news feeds on the web. This network was founded by four students in their early twenties who met at the International Intelligence Summit in 2007. The founders wanted to develop an initiative to encourage young analysts to establish themselves and provide a platform through which the youth could become more involved in foreign policy and related analysis.

[edit] Dr Darko Trifunovic is Senior Adviser of the Research Institute for European and American Studies (RIEAS)

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The Research Institute for European and American Studies seeks to achieve this objective through research, by publishing its research papers on international politics and intelligence studies, organizing seminars, as well as providing analyses via its web site. The Institute maintains a library and documentation center. RIEAS is an institute with an international focus. Young analysts, journalists, military personnel as well as academicians are frequently invited to give lectures and to take part in seminars. RIEAS maintains regular contact with other major research institutes throughout Europe and the United States and, together with similar institutes in Western Europe, Middle East, Russia and Southeast Asia.

[edit] Dr Darko Trifunovic is contributing expert of The Terror Finance Bloge

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The Terror Finance Blog was created to serve the needs of legislative staff, government officials, policy makers and researchers who need intelligent and relevant analysis of issues relating to terrorist financing. The contributing experts all have many years’ worth of experience in studying, documenting, and researching the ways in which terrorists fund their activities and get away with it.

[edit] Dr Darko Trifunovic become member of Advisory Board of the Institute for Transnational Studies

Dr. Darko Trifunovic, Faculty for Security Studies, University of Belgrade were elect as member of Advisory Board of the Institute for Transnational Studies ref [8]. Institute for Transnational Studies (ITS) is a German-based security and political consultancy with an extensive local and international associate network. Established in 2001 by Prof. Dr. Klaus Lange, ITS provides a comprehensive portfolio of confidential services essential to decision makers operating in volatile environments. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.216.163.10 (talk) 09:02, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Olympic Games Security 2008

ref [9] The Shanghai Center for International Studies appointed Dr. Darko Trifunovic (RIEAS Senior Advisor) as the first foreign expert for the Olympic Games (2008) security preparation in China ref [10] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.216.103.130 (talk) 12:54, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] JAPAN AND TERRORISM INFRASTRUCTURE FROM BOSNIA

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Japanese government and counter-terrorism officials met behind closed doors this week with Dr. Darko Trifunovic, international expert on Islamic terrorism. In well-attended sessions, Dr. Trifunovic presented lectures on the following topics:

1. "White Al-Qaeda and the Bosnian jihad" 2. Bosnia and the al-Qaeda network: Modus Operandi 3. Bosnian experiences and Al-Qaeda's new training tactics 4. How terrorism is funded: the Bosnian model 5. Bosnia-Herzegovina and international terrorism 6. G-7 summit and terrorist threats

Generally speaking, when one is assessing the threat to a country or region coming from militant Islamic terrorists, (e.g. Al-Qaeda, and other similarly inclined groups), there are certain indicators to watch for. Among them are the following: 1. Presence of mujaheddin; 2. Presence of so-called "humanitarian organizations" 3. Presence of state sponsors of terrorism 4. Presence of terrorist organizations 5. Manipulation of religion to terrorist purposes.

Surprisingly, all the above-mentioned elements apply to Japan. Osama bin Laden even personally declared Japan a target. The message of Al-Qaeda's leader, broadcast on Al-Jazeera on October 18, 2003, declares: "We reserve the right to retaliate, at an appropriate time and place, against all countries that take part in this unjust war, specifically Britain, Spain, Australia, Poland, Japan and Italy."..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.216.103.130 (talk) 12:59, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Governmental 2002 report

Folks,

Plese make reference on mentioned Report, so we can clearly see is dr Darko Trifunovic are author as is stated or something else? Also, we can see then is this report is his or official Goverment Report? We need to clear this.

"Darko Trifunovic is the author of a controversial 2002 report"

I do have problem with many thing mentioned here, so please help me to better understand all.

Reference need to be added also in the part who and when International Court refuse Report in case?

Please help me to undrstand the title: Srebrenica denier is this some kind of accusation? If yes make reference who and when is accused for that or in which legal system or Legal document Srebrenica massacre denile is punishable by law. If sombody opinion do not coincide with sombody else, this is not a crime or reason for accusation. Or maybe I am in wrong?

Many thanks.

Tale —Preceding unsigned comment added by TalesGr (talk • contribs) 03:56, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

There is problem with this text and author of it. Behind author names is Afan Pasalic, an Radical Islamist from Bosnia residing in Canada, follower of the Alija Izetbegovic, person twice sentenced for spreading the hate among the nation of former Yugoslavia. Also, mentioned text is used by Bosnjaci.net, IslamBosna.ba and others web sites of Islamic Fundamentalist from Bosnia in order to provoke and create hate. Also, text is full of lies, noncense and intolerance. I found out that dr Darko Trifunovic is not a author of Report, so that is another lie exposed by mentioned questionable text. Next thing is ISSA. Such accusation in the context of the text in question is unaceptable by democratic and scientific view. Not in Wester democracy.

Hi folks,

Since I am Japanese I belive that I am can be objective. I work for the office of Mr.Yasushi Akashi by the time of Srebrenica massacre, so I was very much inform about all situation in the regio of Srebrenica when Bosniak massacred Serbs from 1992 and when Serbs massacred Bosniaks...In one word to me this is so crazy, but regarding Srebrenica, it was very difficult to all people of Bosnia.

Also I checked it was Goverment Report with numeration I, so after it was follow with several others report all of them directed to aknowledment of massacre over the Bosniaks. Look like positive process to the final justice and reconcilation.

I think that is more correct if you wan to publish this chapter:

Governmental 2002 report with the title No.1 by the Documentation Center of Republic of Srpska in Banja Luka on the 1995 Srebrenica massacre. Amongst other things, the report claims that the widely accepted figure of 8,000 Bosniak men and underage boys killed in the massacre is inflated and that between 3000-3500 Bosnian soldiers were killed as it was confirm by the number of exhumed bodies even today. Report was considered as very important as first step, since later Government of Republic of Srpksa in serial report No.2 and No.3 confirmed Srebrenica massacre. Report No.1 was historically important, because it is first time that Government of Republic of Srpska acknowledge massacre over the Bosniaks. It is still remain unclear how and when killed 8 ooo Bosniaks since ICTY found responsible just several individuals. It is essential to find out destiny of every single human of the Srebrenica tragedy since 1992 up to 1995. Srebrenica tragedy remain painful for both Bosniaks and Serbs, despite the fact that Bosniaks suffered much more severe casualties. The case, Bosnia and Herzegovina versus Serbia and Montenegro, began a year ago. Bosnia argued that Belgrade incited ethnic hatred, armed Bosnian Serbs and was an active participant in the killings. Belgrade said the conflict was an internal war between Bosnia's ethnic groups and denied any state role in genocide. In the ruling, the president of the court, Judge Rosalyn Higgins, said: "The court finds that the acts of genocide at Srebrenica cannot be attributed to the respondent's (Serbia) state organs." However the court added that the leaders of Serbia failed to comply with its international obligation to prevent the killings and punish those responsible. The court also rejected Bosnia's claim for reparations. "Financial compensation is not the appropriate form of reparation," the ruling said. The war crimes tribunal in The Hague has already found individuals guilty of genocide in Bosnia and established the Srebrenica massacre as genocide.

[edit] Srebrenica Massacre

Governmental 2002 report with the title No.1 by the Documentation Center of Republic of Srpska in Banja Luka on the 1995 Srebrenica massacre. Amongst other things, the report claims that the widely accepted figure of 8,000 Bosniak men and underage boys killed in the massacre is inflated and that between 3000-3500 Bosnian soldiers were killed as it was confirm by the number of exhumed bodies even today. Report was considered as very important as first step, since later Government of Republic of Srpksa in serial report No.2 and No.3 confirmed Srebrenica massacre. Report No.1 was historically important, because it is first time that Government of Republic of Srpska acknowledge massacre over the Bosniaks. It is still remain unclear who,how and when killed 8 ooo Bosniaks since ICTY found responsible just several individuals. It is essential to find out destiny of every single human of the Srebrenica tragedy since 1992 up to 1995. Srebrenica tragedy remain painful for both Bosniaks and Serbs, despite the fact that Bosniaks suffered much more severe casualties. The case, Bosnia and Herzegovina versus Serbia and Montenegro, began a year ago. Bosnia argued that Belgrade incited ethnic hatred, armed Bosnian Serbs and was an active participant in the killings. Belgrade said the conflict was an internal war between Bosnia's ethnic groups and denied any state role in genocide. In the ruling, the president of the court, Judge Rosalyn Higgins, said: "The court finds that the acts of genocide at Srebrenica cannot be attributed to the respondent's (Serbia) state organs." However the court added that the leaders of Serbia failed to comply with its international obligation to prevent the killings and punish those responsible. The court also rejected Bosnia's claim for reparations. "Financial compensation is not the appropriate form of reparation," the ruling said. The war crimes tribunal in The Hague has already found individuals guilty of genocide in Bosnia and established the Srebrenica massacre as genocide.

Ops! I disagree. First of all, he authored that report. Secondly, just because you are a Serb, you should not be defending him.
I never heard that somebody is the author of the Govermental Report. Usually in the diplomatic world goverment give task somebody to prepare papers, documents or report. I hear that Goverment give or gave duty to some individual, expert or expperts to creat report. So in that case Goverment is oblage to dispose evidecnces, materirals...etc..hope you understand. It is sam if you accuse Mr.Freed Under Secretary of US for some US Govermental report despite of fact that he was one who prepared. But, I can see that you are coming not from the world of diplomacy or goverment. Any document wich is made for the Goverment or in the name of Goverment is the proparty of the Goverment.


Start of Ethnic Cleansing of Serbs Mutual distrust and fear between Serbs and Muslims were mounting high in Srebrenica. Armed Muslim gangs among which the Patriot League was formed in Vlasenica near Srebrenica area started raising mutual fear among people from April 199216. Serbs already began to be fired from governments, police, schools, health institutions, and business. A group of Muslim locals in the disguise of Arkan soldiers, a Serbian para-military group, came to Srebrenica area and raised the fear in Muslim civilians17”. Then, on May 8 1992, Judge Goran Zekic, President of SDS (Bosnian Serbs’ political party) in Srebrenica area and Bosnian Serb representative of Srebrenica to BH Parliament was ambushed and killed. A mass exodus of Serbs from Srebrenica town to Bratunac started immediately.

Ethnic Cleansing of Serbs Reliance on Serbs’ Supply and Cleansing of Serbs According to Sefer Halilovic, former Chief of Staff of BH Army, Muslim’s military strategy for Srebrenica area was the total dependence on the Serbs’ supplies and properties19. He continued to say “The only source of our supply was chetnik’s (Serbs’) stores and their production.”20 In other words, it was nothing more than the robbery of bandit groups. Muslims started their assault against the smallest Serbian hamlets and then against the villages where Serbs are minority. Afterwards, they targeted Serbs villages surrounded by Muslim villages. Finally, large Serbs villages were targeted. On May 6, 1992, just two days before Zekic was killed, small hamlets, Bljeceva and Gniona, had been already robbed and burnt as a sign indicating what would happen from now on. On May 7, seven Serbs who tried to escape from Srebrenica were ambushed and killed. On May 15, the villages of Viogor, Orahovica, Karno, Civevci, and Radossevi were attacked. In this way, from May 1992 to Jan 1994, as many as 192 villages were robbed and burnt21. During the period, 8,000 Serbian houses had been assaulted, and 5,400 houses were completely demolished into rubbles22. The number of the killed were more than 1,000, including women, children, and the elderly, and 90% of those were killed particularly during the first six months from May 1992 in spite of the fact that most of them were civilians23. Cruelty of violent ethnic cleansing The wild cruelty of Muslim soldiers in Srebrenica area was very similar to the techniques of “SS Handzar” in the period of World War II. Rather than using bullets, Muslim soldiers used dull objects as weapons and gradually killed Serbs, mostly civilians, by mutilating, taking off an eye, castrating, crucifying, or burning. The traces of the torture were so visible on corpses that most of the autopsy process was videotaped and photographed by Serb doctors who conducted autopsy24. Meanwhile, the top Muslim commander in Srebrenica, Naser Oric, who orchestrated the attacks together with Zulfo Tursunovic, also videotaped the scene as trophies of war. Washington Post dated February 16, 1994.said: “Burnt Serb houses, headless Serb men, their bodies crumpled in a pathetic heap”25 was on a videocassette tape. In the article, Naser said, “We had to use cold weapons that night,” and explained as scenes of dead men sliced by knives roll over his 21-inch Sony.26 As Muslim soldiers did not carry this kind of tapes with them in fleeing, Bureau of Republic of Srpska Government for relations with ICTY kept most of them as evidences. Documents which Muslim soldiers did not have time to take with them in fleeing Srebrenica revealed hideous crimes committed under the order of Naser Oric. One of the Muslim forces” report of No. 06-08/95 explained about the death of a Serb, Milko Markovic, who remained in the town of Srebrenica even after the death of Judge Zekic, as follows; “Milko Markovic was arrested, and delivered to Mis. Mis maltreated him, stung him by knife, and cut his throat. However, because Milko was still alive, Mis brought Milko to a small stream, and tortured him again. As Milko lost consciousness, Mis awoke Milko by pouring water on him. Then Mis burned him alive.” It is said that Mis is living in Tuzla now without any troubles. There were some Serbs who received an illogical notice on the death of their families from Muslim authorities. For instance, the daughter of Radovan Marinkovic received the death notice of her father through ICRC (International Committee of Red Cross) on September 24, 1992. The notice with the signature of Zulfo Tursunovic said that her father was killed as a Serb soldier in front of his house. However, her father was too old in fact to be a soldier, and it is weird for any soldier to caryy out military actions in front of his house. It is a mystery why the international media and society hardly paid attention to this savage behaviour although a series of attacks were so evident that even a local Muslim citizen27 explained to the author without any hesitation. More strangely, Prof. Cherif Bassiouni, Chairman of the Commission of Experts, avoided to mention the Muslims’ attacks on Srebrenica in Final Report28, and submitted it to Security Council through Secretary-General on May 27, 1994. It should be noted that Dragomir Djokic, then Yugoslav Charge d’affaires to UN, had submitted the criminal report and relevant evidences on the Muslims’ attacks on Srebrenica to General Assembly of Security Council in June 93, and that the Dr. Stankovic, a world-famous doctor of forensic medicine who had implemented most of the autopsies for the Serbs victims in Srebrenica in 1993, had directly handed over the same report and evidences to Bassiouni. As the report became a basis for the indictments of war criminals in the territory of former Yugoslavia later, those criminals evaded accusations, and they are still free to do anything. The responsibility of Prof. Bassiouni is enormous if they repeat crimes of this kind particularly because he intentionally avoided accusing those criminals.

Dispute about numbers in Srebrenica masacre by international sources:

Muslim Soldiers Who Did Not Surrender The conclusion of this negotiation must have been a nightmare for Muslim forces that were in confusion. Most of the soldiers were occupied with the worst scenario in which Bosnian Serb forces would execute all men. Later, some of the Muslim soldiers who had fled admitted, in various magazines, that the reason they had decided to flee was due to this worst scenario.64 Besides, Muslim hard liners’ pressure was mounting so high that soldiers that had decided to surrender had to expect some assaults from their own fellows65. At the night of July 10, the Muslim soldiers who had decided not to surrender started fleeing. According to Dutch Battalion, a group of some 300 soldiers of Muslim forces disappeared in moving toward the west.66 On the night of July 11-12, between 10,000 and 15,000 men, who had converged on the area of Jaglici and Susnjari, went in the forests to reach Tuzla or Kladanj.67 Mehrudin Mesanovic said in the local magazine of Sarajevo that brigades gathered in Buljim on July 11 started into woods by platoon and platoon.68 Although no confirmed figures are available, it is esti-mated that 10,000-15,000 Muslim soldiers had left Srebrenica through woods according to the Report of the Secretary-General69 and other accounts70. Muslim Who Surrendered Approximately 25,00071 out of 40,000 Muslims72 decided to surrender and gathered in Potocari. According to Dutch battalion73, the majority of people were women, children, and the elderly, and the military capable men accounted for only 2% to 3%. Bosnian Serb forces separated them into a group of women, children, and the elderly and a group of military capable men. The purpose of this separation was two-fold: to catch Muslim soldiers as many as possible as war prisoners in order to exchange them for Serbs imprisoned by Muslim Army particularly in Sarajevo, and to screen out Muslims who had committed hideous crimes against Serbian citizens particularly in 1992 and 1993. Being free from allegation of military engagement, a group of women, children, and the elderly were directly transferred to Kladanj, a Muslim territory. On the other hand, a group of men, amounting to about 500 to 75074 (or 2%-3% of 25,000), were transferred to Bratunac, where they were screened for the check of war crimes, and were grouped into three; (1) a group of men who did not have any criminal records, (2) a group of men who were required to go through farther check for war crimes, (3) a group of men who were determined to be war criminals. As for (1), Bosnian Serb forces considered the men of this group as civilians but not as prisoners of war. Thus, they were transferred from Bratunac to Kladanj, a Muslim territory, on July 14, immediately after the criminal screening. The fact that the men in this group did not become the targets for the exchange of prisoners was noteworthy because the men in this group might have fought as soldiers. In fact, a Muslim man that had been released as a civilian on this time in Bratunac disappointed Bosnian Serb forces later when he was caught as a prisoner of war on the front line near Sarajevo75. The number of Muslim men in this group is estimated to be around 500 because six buses and four trucks are said to be used to transport them76. The Muslim men in the remaining two groups became prisoners of war, according to their war activities. As for (2), the group was transferred from the prison of Bratunac to the prison of Batkovic. As for (3), the group was sent from the prison of Bratunac to the prison of Zvornik. The number of Muslim men in these two groups is estimated to be less than 250 in total because the number of men in all three groups totaled 500 to 750, and the group (1) consisted of approximately 500 men. When ICRC visited all three prisons in Bratunac, Batkovic and Zvornik afterwards77, it registered 164 persons from Srebrenica at the prison of Batkovic on July 26, 199578, and noted 193 persons from Srebrenica in total by November 199579. Later, the majority of the Muslim war prisoners in these groups seems to have been exchanged for the Serbian war prisoners via ICRC. One of the example is Ibran Mustafic, a founder of the ruling Muslim party (SDA) in Srebrenica and Srebrenica representative to Muslim Parliament80. He was exchanged for a Serb imprisoned by Muslim Army81 after having spent nine months in the prison in Batkovic although Mustafic was on the list of war criminals of Bosnian Serbs side82. Unfortunately, the number of the persons who were exchanged from the group (2) and (3) is unknown due to the confidentiality of ICRC documents. Yet, taking into consideration the fact that about 500 out of 750 men gathering in Potocari were transferred to Kladanj unconditionally, the remaining 250 must have been very precious war prisoners for Bosnian Serb forces.Other than the above three groups, there was a group of 88 wounded persons83. As for the evacuation of this group, ICRC said that 65 of them were transferred to Muslim territories on July 17 and 1884. Although 23 remained, ICRC noted their identities to trace them as war prisoners afterwards85. As ICRC’s check of identities would secure the lives of the noted persons, almost all wounded persons are considered to be exchanged for Serbian war prisoners later. Other than ICRC report, there were two accounts that contradict each other: the statement of Medicina Sans Frontiers86 and the statement of Dutch battalions87. Taking into consideration that the statement of Medicina Sans Frontiers was also inconsistent with ICRC report and that the statement was given by the locals that Medicina Sans Frontiers employed from the enclave, their statement should not be taken seriously.

Report of the Secretary-General Pursuant to Security Council Resolution 1010 (1995) (S/1995/755) August 30, 1995reason to for dispute about numbers of those massacred in Srebrenica is exactly this Report which is considered final.

REPORT OF THE SECRETARY-GENERAL PURSUANT TO SECURITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION 1019 (1995) ON VIOLATIONS OF INTERNATIONAL HUMANITARIAN LAW IN THE AREAS OF SREBRENICA, ZEPA, BANJA LUKA AND SANSKI MOST UNITED NATIONS Security Council Distr. GENERAL S/1995/988 27 November 1995 ORIGINAL: ENGLISH 95-37227 (E) 281195/...

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A. Missing persons

4. The Bosnian Serb offensive on Srebrenica from 6 to 11 July 1995 led to a mass displacement of the entire Bosnian Muslim community of the area. An estimated 25,000 people were forcibly evacuated on a convoy of buses and trucks organized by the Bosnian Serb authorities. A group of people, estimated at between 10,000 and 15,000, most of whom were men, left Srebrenica on foot. The exact number of persons from these two groups who arrived safely in Bosnian Government-held territory is not known. By most accounts, the local population prior to the Bosnian Serb offensive numbered 38,000 to 40,000, although UNHCR estimated the population of the enclave for food distribution purposes at 42,600.

5. Thousands of people still remain unaccounted for. An unknown number who made their way to safety have simply not been registered by the appropriate authorities. At least several hundred persons are believed to have been killed in armed combat. There are also accounts of men in hiding in Bosnian Serb-held territory, although no more than a few hundred men are believed to be still at large.

6. It is thus difficult to ascertain the exact numbers of those missing. The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) has received over 10,000 tracing requests from families and has determined that 2,000 of the requests are duplicative, leaving a total of 8,000 tracing requests. A further analysis by ICRC indicates that 5,000 of the tracing requests concern individuals who are said to have left the enclave before it was taken by Bosnian Serb forces. Some 3,000 requests concern persons who were taken from their families by Bosnian Serb forces during the expulsion itself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.252.86.118 (talk) 11:14, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] in response to the multiply editing of my page

please google the sources about Dr. Darko Trifunovic in order to understand the validity of the information. What you found is sole campaign of Bosnjaci against the western world and fight against terrorism.

Please do not change my page anymore.

thanks.

Oooo, so now we know it's you - Darko Trifunovic - behind these comments? hahahahahaha .... 142.179.67.238 (talk) 21:57, 28 December 2007 (UTC)


Update: AlexandarNYC is user Sh3 = Darko Trifunovic, he is slandering Mr Pasalic, he even created page to do that http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:AlexandarNYC&action=history

Look guys, I dont know where you are going with this and I see you probably dont have anything better to do but to patronize me here. I might be Dr. Darko Trifunovic but only in your heads. I wish though but I am still far from doctoral degree, so too bad for me. :) I dont know but maybe you are the one who is using multiple nicknames.I have no need to do that. So LEAVE ME ALONE!

thanks. Sh3 (talk) 13:10, 29 December 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Darko Trifunovic how it shell look like

Reference: International Analyst Network [12]

Professional Experience & Positions

- Lecturer at the Faculty of Security Studies-University of Belgrade

- Specialist in Terrorism and Security Studies

- Chief Editor of the prestigious university international bulletin "Security in Serbia."

- Analyst with the Terror Finance Blog

- Representative for Serbia and Montenegro of International Strategic Studies Association (ISSA), Defense & Foreign Affairs publications, the Global Information System (GIS)

- Senior Adviser of the Research Institute for European and American Studies (RIEAS)


Diplomatic Positions

- First Secretary in the Foreign Service of Bosnia and Herzegovina at UN - 2001

- Advisor to the State Secretary for War Crimes of Republic of Srpska for Terrorism and Violence - 2003

- Advisor to the Minister of Interior of the Republic of Srpska, BIH - 2005

Areas of Expertise

- Terrorism

- International Security

- Global Terror Finance

Brief Biography Darko Trifunovic, MSL, PhD. is a lawyer based in Belgrade, Serbia and Montenegro and working as lecturer at the Faculty of Security Studies-University of Belgrade. He is a specialist in Terrorism and Security Studies, and was the author among other books&studies in 2002 of the study: Islamic Fundamentalists, Global Network and Modus Operandi: Model Bosnia Part I, and in 2004 Islamic Fundamentalists, Global Network and Modus Operandi: Model Bosnia, Part II published by the Documentation Center of the Government of Republica Srpska's [Bureau for Relations with the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia].

Publications Archive

-Japan and Terrorism Infrastructure

-MEDIA RELEASE Bosnjaci.net Attacks on Darko Trifunovic

-Al-Qaeda’s Global Network and its influence on Western Balkans nations

-Financial Infrastructure of Islamic Extremists in the Balkans

-Origins Of Terrorism In Bosnia And Herzegovina And Its Classic Shapes

– Terrorism and Organized Crime in South-eastern Europe: The case of Bosnia-Herzegovina – Sandzak, Kosovo and Metohija

-Islamic Fundamentalists, Global Network and Modus Operandi: Model Bosnia Part II

-Islamic Fundamentalists, Global Network and Modus Operandi: Model Bosnia Part I

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Hi Wiki,

I thing this is to strong. This looks as accusation to somebody. If is accusation can you give me by which law and in which country this is considered as criminal or civil crime? In other hand please remove this title as unappropriate.

Thanks,

Tale —Preceding unsigned comment added by TalesGr (talk • contribs) 03:39, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

LeeCorrie, putting in a subtitle "Srebrenica Genocide Denial" is libelous and OR. You are claiming that his views amount to Genocide denial, you don't provide credible and widely accepted sources stating that these views are tantamount to genocide denial.Osli73 (talk) 22:04, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Look

I am not Darko Trifunovic, and please stop changing my content I am going to request ban for you. I am going to change the content one more time, and please read carefully before you decide to do any more changes.

Please read below:

http://www.terrorfinance.org/the_terror_finance_blog/2007/12/al-qaeda-media.html—Preceding unsigned comment added by Sh3 (talk • contribs) 10:10, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Blogs are not generally considered to be reliable sources, and it's not necessary to reproduce the contents of a source. Just a few links to newspaper and magazine articles about him, verifying the basic facts, is more helpful than blog entries, and this blog entry doesn't appear to be about Trifunovic anyway. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 13:13, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
I've tagged the article as needing references. If references aren't provided immediatly, then all unsourced information should be removed per our policies at WP:BLP. --Farix (Talk) 13:24, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
ok guys I tried to clean up the article littlebit. I did put the reference on the very bottom, directly to the ICT (Institute for Counter Terorrism) in Israel. there is some basic information about Dr. Trifunovic there. (if I am putting this reference wrongly please correct me.) I also added verifyble reference among all other links and you can have look at it: http://www.ict.org.il/apage/16439.php Sh3 (talk) 13:41, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
Please stop posting Blogs as references, they are just your personal opinions not reliable sources. Yes you are Darko Trifunovic, I was in touch with you through your email and you confirmed that you are the person behind these nicknames. In my last email I told you what I had to say to you and I ceased contact with you. You should really stop playing those games, it's so obvious and doesnt help your credibility. Bosniak (talk) 22:49, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
Look Bosniak, please stop telling nonsense to people. I am not Dr. Trufunovic and it is very stupid way to say such a lie. I was never in touch with you before, dont know who you are. I think you are the one here who is playing games. I am located in Israel and you can see that by my IP address. So - your lies wont work.

And please, stop posting your blogs accusing Dr. Trifunovic for genocide denial. What you are doing is against the law. I will not go into the subject with you, there is no need. Sh3 (talk) 16:01, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Sh3, Darko Trifunovic is a Srebrenica genocide denier and there is nothing you can do about it. In Western countries we have a right to the freedom of speech, and you won't change it. Freedom of speech is not against the law (maybe in your twisted mind, but not in Western countries). I support Bosniak's exercise of freedom of speech, as I support everybody's freedom of expression. LeeCorrie (talk) 17:03, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Dear LeeCorrie, Freedom of speach is one thing, but you call dr Darko Trifunovic Srebrenica denier and this is looking as accusation. In Western Democracy as well as in all democratic countries when you accuse somebody for some criminal of civil act, you need to add reference on accusation in positive Law. As you know there is on going Criminal Process against Mr.Naser Oric and his case is not still over. In April there will be another triale against him at ICTY. So if ICTY find him responsible for killing of Serbs in Srebrenica, we can't talk about Holocuust, but instead about civil war with casulties on both side. So wait little bit with havey accusation. We do have time for that always. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TalesGr (talk • contribs) 03:45, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

It is not for the editors of Wikipedia to decide wether or not someone is a genocide denier or not or to accuse people of such things. However, if a reliable source (ie major media) has labeled Trifunovic as such, we could/should include this, including the source. Otherwise we should refrain from libelous charges per Wiki policy.Osli73 (talk) 08:49, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reapply {{Unreferenced}} tag

The {{Unreferenced|date=December 2007}} tag should be reapplied to the article. --Farix (Talk) 20:40, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Done. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 23:55, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
guys if you look above, I did refeence the article properly yesterday but it was deleted by this propaganda activators, whose aim is to spread the misinformation in order to support terrorism. Please return the article to the full version which includes references. Sh3 (talk) 16:22, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] University of Belgrade Faculty of Security Studies

The first sentence of this article states that Darko Trifunovic is a "lecturer at the Faculty of Security Studies-University of Belgrade", but the Faculty of Security Studies is not included in the list of the 31 faculties of the University of Belgrade. Could someone who knows a bit more about the University of Belgrade look into this? AecisBrievenbus 18:02, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Appears to be legit, see: Faculty of Security at the University's website. The article doesn't appear to cover that school/subspeciality but the University website describes it a bit. Doesn't say that Trifunovic is employed or lecturing there (only lists head of the department) but does indicate that the Faculty exists. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 18:17, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Hmmm... I couldn't find information that he is lecturing there. LeeCorrie (talk) 17:22, 3 January 2008 (UTC)


The web site of University of Belgrade is: http://www.bg.ac.yu

On this site you will find out listed Faculty of Security Studies

Also, on the following web site you can find Faculty of Security Studies www.fb.bg.ac.yu

OK? —Preceding unsigned comment added by AlexandarNYC (talk • contribs) 22:24, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Semi-protected for a week

Due to repeated IP address and new account edit warring on this article, I have applied one week of semi-protection . Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 18:25, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

So why is again added part which is questionable and against International Law regarding Srebrenica denier? As wiki web master was inform that this attempt by some Islamic Fundamentalist is illegal. Why? Because dr Trifunovic is part of defense of several individuals accused before the ICTY. So adding this part on this page by unknown editor is clear obstruction of Justice and legal defense. Can you call lawyer of accused killer, denier of killing? No. That is the job of lawyer to defend his client. Also, the mentioned Report is Report of Government. You can see even in footnote as reference added to the text. Again and again and once again, please remove this false accusation and stop to braking International Law. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.216.103.188 (talk) 21:47, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

You can see how somebody missusing Wikipadia. This is a letter of Afan Pasalic that he or somebody associate to wikipadia is controlling wikipadia

You are blocked by Wikipadia by some me. see this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Sh3 Afan afan@aran.net

What this means? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.216.103.188 (talk) 22:03, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

This means that I just received an e mail from Afan that he is changing Semi protected web page. How?


Also,

Again: Adding chapter under title Srebrenica denier, you are obstructing International Justice and Role of Procedure of the International Criminal Court for former Yugoslavia. If this illegal action continues will be force out of my will to report all to the ICTY and seek their protection.

Would you like me to send you an letter from ICTY where is stated that I am parto fo defense team?


Also,

Web site of Faculty of Security Studies is www.fb.bg.ac.yu


Here is the letter:

Dear Mr. Trifunovic, (member of Defense Team)

I am case manager and legal adviser in the case of Mr. Momcilo Krajisnik, which is currently in the appellate stage before the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia in Den Haag, Holland. I hereby affirm that in that capacity I consider you as an expert and a credible and respectable scholarly researcher in the field of recent conflicts in the former Yugoslavia. You have provided insights and material documents which are invaluable for the defense at ICTY, particularly in the case of Srebrenica . On behalf of the defence team we are pleased to cooperate with you. I thank you for your cooperation and look forward to work with you again in the future.

Kind regards,

Stephen Karganovic Defense Team of Mr.Momcilo Krajisnik

International ad hoc Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia


Hope you understand that this is not a issue of freedom of speach. On the contrary, here is the case that sombody try to obstract the Justice and far trail.

Every human being has basic Right of Human Rights. Our system and values are based on Human Rights. That is reason why accused individuals have right of Defense. Defense means that you need to defend your client. Right? So, somebody illegally want to call defense – denier. Is this moral, ethical or is this act against the Law?


Hallo,

In this article there is several thing which is not true:

"1.Darko Trifunovic is the author of a controversial 2002 report by the Documentation Center of Republic of Srpska in Banja Luka on the 1995"

This questienable report is Report of the State Secretariat of Republic of Srpska for the cooperation with International Criminal Tribunal for former Yugoslavia.

I checked. This gentlemn is not a author. In the Report he is mention as somebody who prepare it. So this is an official Report of Goverment.

Also, in the Report there is no any mentioning of genocide denial. How you explane this? Is it denial of Srebrenica massacre any crimes? If yes, please describe where in which country and by which law? —Preceding unsigned comment added by TalesGr (talk • contribs) 03:36, 5 January 2008 (UTC)


One more thing for the webmaster:

It is stated follwong in the article:"the report, which was rejected as scandalous by the international courts". Can you make any reference on that? I can' find it that International Court rejected or disscused on this matter. On the contrary. Report will be used by Defense in very near future. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TalesGr (talk • contribs) 03:49, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

I found these facts about Dr. Trifunovic.
http://www.nato.int/sfor/media/2003/ms031018.htm
http://www.ict.org.il/apage/16439.php
http://rieas.gr/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=257&Itemid=41

I think that these references are enough to prove he is an expert. On the contrary I found that one of wikipedia admins (and I suspect that he in cooperation with someone else) is leading campaign against Dr. Trifunovic. Just go to his wiki page here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bosniak and see the blog he is managing which shows how he is attacking Dr. Trifunovic there. this is the link to the blog: http://srebrenica-genocide.blogspot.com/ and here is the link to one of two posts against Dr. Trifunovic: http://srebrenica-genocide.blogspot.com/2007/12/darko-trifunovic-srebrenica-genocide.html

it is time for wikipedia admins to realize that this is pure propaganda and spread of lies to public. If you people dont realize that this is a threat from terrorism to your peaceful lifes in the whole Europe and world than good luck to you all.
I also can see that many of those who wrote in favor for Dr. Trifunovic were banned and this should tell you the rest of admins that someone here is manipulating content. This should not happen on wikipedia. I would not be surprised if I am banned too tomorrow. Simple implication (talk) 19:42, 8 January 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Blocked account abuse

The following accounts have been blocked for various policy abuse related to this page. Sockpuppets of these editors will be blocked immediately on detection on this article.

[edit] Stop editwarring

Please stop reverting each other back and forth, and use this talk page to come to a consensus on the wording of this article. AecisBrievenbus 22:18, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

If the edit warring continues, I shall protect the article from editing, obviously at the wrong version. AecisBrievenbus 23:55, 9 January 2008 (UTC)


Please protect this page from reverting since it is more than evidiental that some extremist/s try to promote hate and Bosniaks propaganda.

[edit] online campaign against Dr Trifunovic

Considering the allegations regarding "Srebrenica genocide denial" levelled against Trifunovic in this article I think involved editors should be aware that there appears to be quite an online campaign against Trifunovic by nationalist/Islamist Bosniak groups. All of them are from January 2008, which only strengthens the impression that they are part of an organized campaign. It would be sad if Wikipedia were used in this campaign (wether the allegations are true or not). Any allegations have to be based on notable and verifiable sources. However, if there are such sources, we should not shirk from presenting them, though this must be done in a NPOV manner. Some examples of the online campaign against Trifunovic:

Osli73 (talk) 00:22, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

...wether the allegations are true or not ??? If they are verifyably true then it's entirely appropriate to include it in the article. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 00:28, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, you're right. My wording was a bit hasty. Certainly we should include the claims if they are verifiable. What I wanted so say, was that we should be aware that there exists an aggressive and coordinated online campaign against Trifunovic and that we must watch that any allegations are verified, based on good sources and presented in a NPOV. Keeping up these standards becomes even more important in such situations.Osli73 (talk) 08:53, 16 January 2008 (UTC)


I find out this and I delit it because this look like parto of online campaign against Dr Trifunovic. Looks like that all started recently despite that this Govermental report in case is from 2002. So it is clear that somebody is trying to achive some other goals. This report is consider historic, since that Goverment was foce to drow attention to the issue of Srebrenica and publish later of several others report which finaly lead to full awerneses of the problem.

So this part I delited becaus of above mentioned reason: "His works are considered to be fascist by the victims of the Srebrenica Genocide and human rights institutions". [1][2]


[edit] Please stop reverting

Please stop reverting each other back and forth. Please use this talk page to come to a consensus. If the editwarring continues, I will protect the article. AecisBrievenbus 21:16, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Smith Jones, Richard Johnston etc...all this fake names is misused by Daniel Zeljkanovic Srebrenicabloggspot.com editor extrime Muslim propagandist

The Bosniak's Message is written by Daniel Zeljkanovic - Srebrenicabloggspot.com editor.

The Lawyer Association of Upper Canada: Reference-Case No.Flle Number2 008-6249-7 Dr Richard Johnstone - misused by Daniel Zeljkanovic founder of Srebrenica Genocide Blog (New York).

Behind fake name of Canadian lawyer Dr Richard Johnstone is Daniel Zeljkovic (he is Bosnian and Canadian citizen), founder of Srebrenica Genocide Blog (New York). He is one of Wikipadia editor also. See at:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bosniak and he post this web site: http://darko-trifunovic.blogspot.com/ where he used the fake name of Dr Richard Johnstone exposing the lies about dr Darko Trifunovic. Now as you can see he present himself as just Richard after been discover by appropriate authorities.

You can see on this web site (http://www.newscloud.com/read/Biography_of_Dr_Dark ... that Mr.Daniel Zeljkovic misuse somebody's photo and misrepresented himself as Canadian human rights and lawyer.


Posted at 10:14 am 1/07/08

My name is Dr. Richard Johnstone and I am lawyer by occupation and human rights activist from Toronto, Canada

So it is a case of proven criminal with clear attempt to manipulate with somebody else name, fabricating the e mails, posting the lies. Such individuals as Daniel Zeljkanovic is web editor and founder of Srebrenica Genocide Blog (New York)????

[edit] Not correct citation

Correct version is that you need to make full reference not just out of context.

[edit] Osli does not have right to have final say

Important: Dr Richard Johnstone is fake name and surname. It is case of somebody misusing the name and surname of somebody else. So all what is writen under this name is falsification and propaganda by some extremists. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.237.201.48 (talk) 21:37, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Osli does not have right to have final say as to what sourced facts will be included in this article. I have posted sourced facts. This is not Osli's personal page to remove facts he doesnt agree with. Dr Richard Johnstone (talk) 04:51, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Two comments:
  1. Of course it's no ones personal page. However, neither is it a forum for publishing rumours from questionable sources about living persons.
  2. It is good we now have a source for his suspension from the MFA. However, it was because of questions regarding his citizenship, not for document forgery. I've clarified this. According to an article in Srpski glas summarized in OHR BiH Media Round-up (11/7/2002) "Trifunovic was fired because he has been privy to irregularities in the work of the BiH Mission to the UN. On several occasions he pointed out that some Bosniak diplomats, such as Safet Catovic, have links with terrorist organizations." There is also an English reference of an article in the Banja Luka based biweekly magazine Patriot on the topic.
  3. Given the severity of the "Srebrenica genocide denier" allegations they have to be based on unquestionable sources. Bosnian nationalist websites are not good enough sources.
CheersOsli73 (talk) 08:05, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Osli, you are contradicting yourself. How about EVAN KOHLMAN, Serbian propagandist activist who wrote lies about Bosnian Mujahedeen and you opened Wikipedia article about Bosnian Mujahadeen based on lies propagated by pro-Serbian activist who is celebrated on Serbian Chetnik sites? You are using double standard. Don't you have anything else to do except delete facts you don't agree with on Wikipedia? Get a life man. 142.179.67.238 (talk) 16:46, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

What is it you are trying to say? Could you please try to give a direct and logical question.Osli73 (talk) 21:32, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
You know what I am talking about. You have listed Evan Kohlman as an "authoritative" source for so called "Bosnian Mujahadeen" when in fact this individual is pro-Serbian activist celebrated on Serbian Chetnik sites. 142.179.67.238 (talk) 04:12, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi anon,
  1. Why is Kohlmann a "pro-Serbian activist"? Pls provide a source.
  2. What "Serbian Chetnik sites" are you referring to? Pls provide links.
  3. Even if he is "celebrated" on 'Chetnik sites' this has no bearing on his authority on the subject. Being a published author on the subject, having been invited by the Swedish Defence College, etc. is important in establishing him as an authority.
Osli73 (talk) 08:40, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Page protected

Given the continued soapboxing and editwarring, I have protected the article for 2 weeks. Please use this talk page to come to a consensus. AecisBrievenbus 22:08, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

You protected it for 2 weeks so you can keep the version you like. This wikipedia is guided by politics, not by facts. You are protecting a Serbian propagandist and you are deleting facts about him, such as the fact that he was fired due to falsification of documents, as stated above. 142.179.67.238 (talk) 04:10, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Please stop using Wikipedia as a soapbox to attack a living person. Write a blog, or build your own website. And please read meta:The Wrong Version#Boilerplate complaints. AecisBrievenbus 21:03, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
I agree with the anon. The earlier versions of the article contained information related to Srebrenica Genocide denial. Now removed. Can you give us an explanation because there are other admins as well, and I am going to bring this case to the right address if this continues? Regards. The Dragon of Bosnia (talk) 22:03, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
You mean the content that was removed by 87.237.201.48 (talk · contribs)? AecisBrievenbus 00:22, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Aecis is supporter of Darko Trifunovic, he is removing facts and helping Darko Trifunovic maintain a nice article about his past(ommitting facts about Trifunovic's identity thief past, for which he was fired from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Bosnia-Herzegovina; as well as omitting the facts about Trifunovic's Srebrenica genocide denial). Aecis is guided by politics, not an objectivity. 142.179.67.238 (talk) 03:53, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

142.179.67.238 (talk) 17:55, 27 February 2008 (UTC)== More sources about Darko Trifunovic ==

It is important that this was ilegall action by MFA of Bosnia and today there is on going trial before the Court of Bosnia. First decision was in favor of dr Darko Trifunovic http://www.sudbih.gov.ba/?id=340&jezik=e The case dated from 2003 and it is resolve in favor of dr Darko Trifunovic. Part of decision is unconditional returen of dr Darko Trifunovic back to job and it is found that all case was gross violation of human rights of dr Darko Trifunovic. At this point all process is in appeal stage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.237.201.48 (talk) 21:30, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Old and fake Press release by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Bosnia-Herzegovina

Why you are deleting that this press statement is not aquarate and that it is old. It is clearly proven by 2003, 2004 and 2006 decision of th Court of Bosnia that dr Darko Trifunovic was falsly accused and that he is citizen of Bosnia??? Depriving somebody from citizenship is against Humanity and basic Human Rights. Is in it????

Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Bosnia and Herzegovina adopted the decision on suspension of Darko Trifunović, who has worked at the MFA BiH since 2 April 2001, performing diplomatic function - the First Secretary at BiH Mission to UN. In accordance with the rules of service, Trifunović will be deprived from BiH diplomatic passport and he will be unable to obtain a travel document for his return to BiH, since it is about the man who falsified BiH citizenship.

Following the conclusion of BiH Council of Ministers to review citizenship of all employees in state service bodies, Ministry of Foreign Affairs of BiH asked from the Ministry of Civil Affairs and Communications of BiH to review the way in which Trifunović gained BiH citizenship in 1996.

By the review, it was established that Trifunović cancelled his registration on 27 March 1996 from the register of residence in Belgrade, where he was born, and on the same date he registered in Brčko. According to the fictive residence, he obtained ID card of BiH on the same date.

Since the procedure of the issuance of ID card was illegal, Police Service in Brčko District cancelled residence and BiH ID card, Decision dated 25 February 2002.

On the basis of these facts, Ministry of Civil Affairs and Communications of BiH, in accordance with legal procedure deprived Trifunović from BiH citizenship. Results of several months' investigation as well as documentation that prove the conclusions will be submitted to the competent prosecutor's office that will adopt decision on possible criminal charge and judicial prosecution against Darko Trifunović.

Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Bosnia-Herzegovina: http://www.mvp.gov.ba/HTML/Arhiva/Eng/Saopstenja_Mart_2k_eng.htm

This is past. The Ministry of Civilian Affairs of Bosnia confirm the citizenship of Dr Darko Trifunovic by its decision 72-529/04 fron May 21, 2004. The same decision was bring by local municipality in Brcko District, so it is clear that above mentioned action by MFA of Bosnia was ilegall and this citation can't be use as correct not either as relevant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.237.201.48 (talk) 23:35, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Stop spreading hate against Christians in Balkan. Stop spreading lies and intolerance.

It doesn't matter if it's "past" or not; it's a fact. It happened and it should be included. By the way, Darko Trifunovic is not a relevant individual, he should not even be in Wikipedia. There is tons of people like "Darko Trifunovic" all over Serbia and the World. There is no reason for him to even be included in wikipedia. 142.179.67.238 (talk) 17:55, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

This is not a way accepted in Democratic countries and society deleting dr Darko Trifunovic. If you hate Christians, you have to ask yourself what are you doing on Wikipadia????

[edit] Criticism

Bosniak propagandist Jasna Causevic is editor of recently publish text and it can not be consider as appropriate. Recently, Society for Threatened Peoples International - the second-largest human rights organization in Europe - criticized Darko Trifunovic for Srebrenica genocide denial. Source included. Let's stick to facts about this man.Bosniak (talk) 02:47, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

I've rewritten the section, not titled "Controversy", providing both sides of the story per Wiki policy.Osli73 (talk) 09:37, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia not for off-site fights

It's getting to the point that we need a program to follow who all's playing here, however...

Wikipedia is specifically not a battleground or soapbox. Continuing to try to fight this off-wiki real-world dispute here on this page will result in blocks of accounts. Discussion of content here is one thing - the ongoing edit warring and personal attacks and incivility here are unacceptable.

Policies which must be followed on these pages in the future include (links in shorthand):

Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 00:20, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Somebody is permanently tryng to change profile. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.216.162.57 (talk) 01:28, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Blocked users

Related to the dispute here, I have blocked the IP editor User:89.216.162.57, and User:The Dragon of Bosnia.

Osli73: I am placing you on notice here and your talk page that I am concerned that your edits are minimizing the controversy here. That said, I am not reverting anything without further review in detail (and I urge others not to do so). Further uninvolved administrator review is also being sought on WP:ANI.

Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 20:39, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Dear Wiki editor, this is not a case of dispute, this is a case of on line War against dr Darko Trifunovic. Just see the history of the on line War. All started in November - December last year with only one purpose. To blakc label dr Trifunovic in order to prevent his Counter Terrorism activities.

[edit] Need for stringent WP:NPOV enforecement given WP:BLP

I believe that the controversy part of the article must be very carefully reviewed to ensure WP:NPOV to avoid breaking WP:BLP. I have reverted the section to the version in [13]. Here is why:

  • The subtitle "Srebrenica genocide denial" is a weasel word, specifically used to tarnish Trifunovic.
  • the text states that Trifunovic is the "author" of the report when the report actually states that it was "prepared" by Darko Trifunovic, it is therefore not clear what role he played in chosing its content.
  • the text misrepresents the report in saying that it states that "only about 100 Bosnian soldiers were killed" while in fact what the report is saying is that about "2,000" Bosnian Muslim men were killed, mainly in combat, and that about 100 Muslim Soldiers were summarily executed (se p 33 of the http[://www.slobodan-milosevic.org/documents/srebrenica.pdf report]).
  • nowhere does the report bring up the issue of whether what happened was genocide or not. Please remember that according to the ICTY, genocide is not a matter of numbers killed.
  • the current text does not provide any rebuttal of the accusation.

Please consider WP:BLP, especially the part stating "Editors should remove any contentious material about living persons that is unsourced, relies upon sources that do not meet standards specified in Wikipedia:Verifiability, or is a conjectural interpretation of a source (see Wikipedia:No original research). The three-revert rule does not apply to such removals" in light of my arguments above. Regards,Osli73 (talk) 21:50, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rewrite

Following the BLP concerns that have been raised, I've completely rewritten the article from a number of new sources. Comments would be welcomed. -- ChrisO (talk) 01:46, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

On first inspection the rewrite looks good. Still reviewing it though. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 03:46, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Not an easy thing to do given the strong POVs on the subject, but this version looks very good, and a vast improvement over previous versions. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 18:47, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

I agree ChrisO's version is much better - it's well researched, balanced and an improvement over previous versions (including mine). I have just one comment:

  • Srebrenica massacre report controversy: "The report, authored by Trifunović..." I would like it changed to "...prepared by..." since that is what the report actually states (nowhere does it state that he is the "author").

CheersOsli73 (talk) 01:50, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I would like to make it clearer in the article that Trifunovic's views have mainly (or, rather, "only" as far as I can see) been criticized by Bosniaks (including the Society for Threatened Peoples, which is in fact a letter by its Sarajevo office). To begin with, the following sentence - "His views on the subject have, again, been highly controversial" - should be changed to "His views have been criticised by many Bosniak organizations".Osli73 (talk) 09:53, 30 March 2008 (UTC)