Talk:Darién Gap

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[edit] And a Jeep...

There are numerous references to the 1959-60 crossing also including a Jeep. Here's a ok looking reference http://www.geocities.com/~landroverpty/trans.htm That's not to say the Land Rover was not the first of these 2 to cross the line.


[edit] Erik Jorgensen

Does anyone know an evidence that Erik Jorgensen made it in December 2005? I searched in the Internet but could'nt find anything.--129.215.149.97 23:47, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

This is erik jorgensen. i crossed the gap from yaviza to pucaru to paya to crystales to turbo. if you have any questions just go to the all black refugee village of Boca de cupa and ask there. P.S. i have Paraguayan citizenship as well! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.127.73.181 (talkcontribs)

Regardless, the link is wrong. It links to an Erik Jorgensen that died in 1896. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.61.69.156 (talk) 17:09, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sebastian Snow

In "The Rucksack Man," Snow describes "the end" of his walk as "hazardous, ghastly, a gruelling nightmare where Death Stalked" [p. 251]. He is primarily referring to his crossing of the Gap, since he ended his 8700 mile walk in Panama City. Snow says he was "underweight by about five stone, two sprained ankles, both swollen and discoloured, my feet and ankles covered with gore, blood and bites, a mass of suppurating sores, stung by a hornet on the neck, bitten by a scorpion, nipped by a vampire bat, ticks under the skin, I looked in the mirror and saw that days in the jungle could do." [p. 251]

Snow provides few dates in his account. He returned to England before the summer of 1975, but it is not clear from his book if he crossed the gap later in 1974 or early in 1975.

[edit] First to cross

British explorer John Blashford-Snell claims to have made the first crossing in 1972. Here is the link http://www.ses-explore.org/default.aspx?section=aboutses&page=johnblashfordsnell Brentford 16:16, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)

According to the 1991 edition of the Guinness Book of Records:

"... so as to by-pass the Darién gap.

This was first traversed by the Land Rover La Cucaracha Carinosa (The Affectionate Cockroach) of the Trans-Darién Expedition 1959-60, crewed by former SAS man Richard E. Bevir (UK) and engineer Terence John Whitfield (Australia). They left Chepo, Panama on 2 Feb 1960 and reached Quibdó, Columbia on 17 June, averaging 201 m 220 yd per hour of indescribable difficulty." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.78.71.70 (talk • contribs) 09:28, 23 February 2005

[edit] Bypassing the gap?

Is there a ferry service or anything convenient to bypass the gap, if traveling by car? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.99.108.2 (talkcontribs) 17:33, 10 February 2005

[edit] Origin of name?

Why is it called Darien? --Gbleem 13:14, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps because of the name of the province in Panama where part of it is located? 74.38.32.128 05:45, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FARC is left-wing extremist paramilitary organization

As is typical with many contributors to Wiki, they often qualify groups with their political orientation only if it is right of center. For the record, FARC is a left-wing extremist paramilitary organization. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.31.176.8 (talk) 04:19, 13 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] New Additions: "trans gap" vs. "coast to coast" crossings.

I have made four additions in the last month:

  • Marsh Darien Expedition (1924/25)
  • 1961 crossing from the Pacific to the Caribbean.

(I was part of this)

  • 1985 Project Raleigh Caribbean to Pacific crossing
  • Danny Liska's 1960 "trans gap" grossing

Only the last fits nicely into the Darien Gap section, which appears to have the theme of crossing the Gap in the Pan American Highway. The other three were more in the nature of explorations. The most notable of these is The Marsh Darien Expedition which probably deserves its own entry.

I actually thought at first to put this information in the section on Darien Province, but the only individuals mentioned there are Columbus and Balboa. Even early explorers, "Edward Cullen; the french engineer, Reclus, also, the pirate surgeon Leonel Wafer" are left out. So that section did not seem to have the proper balance for these entries.

I would be interested in others view on this? CEagle (talk) 20:02, 19 April 2008 (UTC)