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[edit] Sloppy

The article was pretty poorly written. I just did some major revising. The article lacks of positive reviews of the film. And the 2nd worst movie tag is just an opinion and gives the reader a wrong idea of the movie

Agreed, but then who are you? (Username) and when did you do that? There remain parts to be cleaned / revved up. For instance, tha part about "Box office performance": I doubt there's any single section in the whole of Wikipedia that's more stupid. Who cares if the film was banned in Malaysia??? This rubbish, this useless discussion about Malaysia fails to hide the fact that whoever wrote the section had nothing to say. I think Daredevil was banned in Antarctica, too. So what?? Just what was the real Box office performance??? It doesn't say. --AVM (talk) 02:47, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
It's notable, and received coverage. So stop trolling, and try to improve the article. ThuranX (talk) 04:01, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Roof hopping

I wish there were more scenes with Matt Murdoch as a child hopping off roofs like this.--Jondel 12:27, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Soundtrack

Is there no article or section about the soundtrack?

[edit] Sequel

Are there any plans for a sequel to this film? After all, the ending was rather ambiguous, and the Elektra film isn't really a part of the Daredevil continuity. BugEyedMonster 03:06, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Doing a quick search yields nothing concrete aside from rumour and general speculation. Also, Elektra is part of it, like it or not. Unless they decide to otherwise erase events that transpired in that film in order to better incorporate her resurrection (which was obviously hinted at during the end of Daredevil when he found the braille necklace) into the story. --71.156.91.239 18:37, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vigilante

I always thought that daredevil first appeared as a vigilante in a spiderman comic. Spiderman thought he was a bad guy and was after daredevil for sometime. After realising that Daredevil was in fact a good guy who just had not-so-good tactics, they eventually became friends and spiderman convinced daredevil to change his methods. This is very similar to the movie only without spiderman. I wanna see daredevil and spiderman together. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 199.67.7.151 (talk) 16:38, 11 May 2007 (UTC).

Not just any form of it. You can watch that cartoon, "Daredevil vs. Spider-Man", but it would be cool if we could see Ben Affleck and Tobey Maguire together.

[edit] Kill the family

The Kingpin kills the whole family. So he personally killed Jack Murdock. Why did he let Matt live? Even in the present, Kingpin knows that "The blind lawyer from Hell's Kicten" is the son of Jack "The Devil" Murdock. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.78.43.180 (talk) 14:26, 8 May 2007 (UTC).

Because when he killed Matt's father, he wasn't the Kingpin he was basically just a mob boss, and he only kills families as the Kingpin. Make sense?--76.23.230.214 02:13, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I get it now. Kingpin said to Matt "I was walking for 'Follin' at the time". Follin was the old guy that told Jack to lose the fight. At that time Kingpin was just another guy. It wasn't til later when he became the big doss!

[edit] I'm not so sure I understand this...

The following scenes were deleted that were featured in the PG-13 cut of the film:

The confession booth scenes between Father Steven and Matt Murdock. The love scene between Elektra and Matt Murdock (Ironically, some critics had praised the realism of this scene, in which Matt would follow his desire rather than vacuously fighting crime). The scene where Elektra and Matt walk through New York and briefly discuss their origins The look on Elektra's face when Bullseye stabs her. The scene where Matt is told by Urich how Elektra is a target of the Kingpin, it is replaced with him learning this from a corrupt cop.

Does this simply mean that these scenes were featured in the theatrical version but not in the director's cut? I'm sorry but for some reason this baffles me... Ultimatemarvel 13:42, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 05:07, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia

here's the 'trivia list', let's get it off the main page and incorporate what actually matters, leave the rest. ThuranX (talk) 05:14, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

  • In the theatrical cut of the film, Foggy Nelson's name is mentioned only once.
  • The woman who left a message on the answering machine in Daredevil's apartment that he listened to was Heather Glenn, who was Daredevil's love interest in the comics.
  • When Bullseye is first introduced in the film in a pub, the Irish-American hip hop group House of Pain's song "Top o' the Mornin' to ya" is playing.
  • Karen Page played by Grey's Anatomy star Ellen Pompeo, makes a small appearance as the secretary at the Nelson & Murdock law firm.
  • Michael Clarke Duncan reprises his role as The Kingpin in the episode Royal Scam, of Spider-Man: The New Animated Series.
  • Ben Affleck did an introduction to the TPB of Kevin Smith and Joe Quesada's Daredevil story "Guardian Devil."
  • In 2007, Michael J. Nelson, Bill Corbett and Kevin Murphy of Mystery Science Theater 3000 fame released a humorous audio commentary for the film on their RiffTrax service.
  • During the conversation between Matt and Elektra regarding their origins, Matt mentions that Elektra's father seemed to want Elektra to be a warrior, to which Elektra replies that he simply did not wish her to be a victim. Jennifer Garner's character on Alias had a similar background with her father subjecting her to a CIA sleeper agent program and later claiming that he did not wish her to be a victim.

[edit] revisions:

In addition to stripping out Numerous trivia lists, I'm hoping to turn this into a decent article. Not GA or FA, but certainly a decent article, to at least fit in with all the well done Marvel films and Comics films in general. To that end, I'm starting a section with various problems to be fixed. If you add to the list, please sign the adds, so we can find you to check if we've fixed it, wher doubt might otherwise show. ThuranX (talk) 01:32, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

  • 'When given the job directing Ghost Rider, Johnson has been quoted as having said that "he won't make the same mistake again." ' needs a citation. ThuranX (talk) 01:32, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
I looked around for this quote, but unless it was published in a magazine it's not out there (as a reliable source... oddly enough this quote is on many sites, presumably lifted from from this article). What was the actual context of the line? As in what mistake is he referring too? -- Harish - 12:37, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
He was referrign to the mistakes made in Daredevil, and not repeating them in Ghost Rider. As to 'which mistake'?I'd wager 'everything about daredevil, LOL' ThuranX (talk) 01:49, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
  • The 'Critical reaction and box office' section is not that well written. I'd know. It's like something I'd write. I've listed sources below if someone else is willing to improve the section from a critical point of view. -- Harish - 14:22, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Done. I hope it's fine, but given the time and my urge to just finish asap at the wish of my headache - I have a feeling it needs editing for a better finish. It was a gruelling piece of work, and I wish that on no one. -- Harish - 02:09, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sources

  • I'd like to be able to contribute if possible. I received the Daredevil 2-disc DVD as a gift if that can help, but id it's useful, I'd probably be better at being guided on the information wanted rather then adding what I see as relevant. Also I put this under a new heading should good sources be found and it's unknown as the best way to add the info for whoever finds it. i dunno if it's a good idea. -- Harish - 12:50, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
The DVD would be useful as a source for the 'rpoduction' section', which differs from Development in slight ways. Development is 'how did we get to the point where we have a deal, a script, and a cast', production is 'how do we actually make the film now that we have a deal?'. We should ideally have both, but i'd settle for a combined production section if we need. ThuranX (talk) 01:49, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Though I haven't responded up until now, I'm just letting you know I'm working towards it. Just need several hours to spare for that and I'll squeeze it for what it's worth, hopefully jotting down all the useful info I can. Just gotta get that time, given university and my personal life keeping me pretty busy at the mo. -- Harish - 01:00, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Critical Reaction - I guess it's an easy one for sources, but I took the link from Rotten Tomatoes. It may be better to simply re-write the section, and I'm not good at that stuff. -- Harish - 14:01, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Well, I have to say, this article's the perfect palce to practice, LOL. Give the rewrite a shit, and if it's good, i'll compliment you, if it's bad, I'll help you fix it. This is a great article to learn the writing one because no one's reading it, LOL. ThuranX (talk) 03:43, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
hahahaha, y'know - I never thought of it like that but GOOD POINT!!! lmao! -- Harish - 07:45, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Nice work on revising the Cast section. Good use of sources and prose! ThuranX (talk) 16:37, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Thank you ThuranX! ...and now for my next trick: to try my hand at being neutral with the critical reaction. -- Harish - 17:37, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Looks great, yet againj. I don't know what you've been worried about, you're doing a great job with this. At this rate, i'll be encouraging a GA review! ThuranX (talk) 03:16, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, ThuranX! You're very encouraging and I appreciate that... considering the film that's getting all the effort lol. I guess it's ok, but I was particularly unsure about the TV Guide line at the end of the 2nd paragraph. I was aiming so that the review moved from positive to negative, though I felt that his review point was a notable one. Wasn't sure where to place it, and it kinda seems outta place (to me). What do you think? -- Harish - 11:44, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
there area lot of quotations there, maybe too many, but the p[lacement of that one is fine to me. you might want to check some ofthe similar films that are already FA or GA status for some ideas on how else to handle mixed reviews... Hulk might be a good one. ThuranX (talk) 12:25, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
(Unindent) Hey boss, just updating. I had a crack at it - I tried comparing to current FA articles, and researched so by looking at Casino Royale, 300, Alien vs. Predator, and even Battlefield Earth!!! (OMFG, it's at FA status!!!! Hell, there's hope for even this article... anyway...) whilst it's not as extensive as some of these, I think to some degree it's sort of on the same level. -- Harish - 00:35, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] reversion date?

Can we get a source for when the rights revert? thanks. ThuranX (talk) 04:36, 15 May 2008 (UTC)