User talk:Dantetheperuvian
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If you don't understand English fully then why add incorrect info to articles in that language? Stadio delle Alpi is still Juventus stadium, they own the lease to it understand?... just because it is having its structure changes does not mean it has disapeared into thin air. Its not their "former" stadium, because that is still their legal home and has been since 1990, it isn't been destroyed, abandoned or having a new club play their... its just having work done.
Stadio Olimpico di Torino is Torino F.C.'s stadium and has been since 1990, it doesn't belong to Juve anymore. Torino are just letting Juventus share while their main stadium delle Alpi has some work down. I've worked very hard on getting the Juventus article to "good article" status and it is currently under review to pass it, its highly frustrating when silly things like this keep popping up because of language misunderstandings and could lead to the article failing the review. - 01:34, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] List
Notice how on both of those article lists, they look absolutely nothing like what you keep doing to Juventus players list? Neither of those two feature an ugly big quote (which goes against our policy) at the top. Take a look at List of Arsenal F.C. players for an idea of how we do them. - 02:15, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
- I'm quite sure that the quote is real, that is besides the point. Repeat these words slowly to yourself.... quote.. against... standard. 0.. none.. zero of the featured lists which you referenced have a great big quote from one player at the top, this is why Wikiquote was created.
- The things which you keep removing from the top of the list, are standard and have templates especially created to fit them. Also.. you seem to be removing players and adding others for no real reason you remove David Platt and add Sergeij Alejnikov when they played for the club around the same ammount of times. Also Paul Arnold Walty is not a notable former player at all set out by the standard, he played four times for one season and has achieved no notabliity outside of that at all.
- Also for example with Lucidio Sentimenti and Vittorio Sentimenti... there is no need to add the ugly (IVº) and (IIIº) things after their full names, because they are only used to differentiate the players when just giving the surname, its not essential. - The Daddy 02:30, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
I know what the "I" and the "II" means. I've worked on the Sentimenti family football articles. But it is not needed when the full name of the player is given, it is only for when just a surname is given by itself that it is needed to help differentiate.
For example if the Cannavaro brothers played for the same team today, they would have "F. Cannavaro" and "P. Cannavaro" on their shirts, but when their full name (first and second) is given then no further information needs to be provided to help differentiate. Its the same situation with the "I" and "II".
Domenico Donna could maybe pass notability, but I don't see why Walty or Alejnikov should... its not as if Walty was a founding player. If every player that was ever part of a Juventus squad which won a trophy was added to the list then it would be endless. - The Daddy 02:47, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Juventus Ultras
The article has some part which need to be sourced, as they are potentially non-neutrals (e.g., claims of "most important ultras group" among the Juve fans), in any case I marked them all. Some copyedit is necessary, as it is clear the article was not written by a native English speaker ("knowned" instead of "known" is probably the most impressive example). --Angelo 20:57, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] grammatics
Hello, please note that this sentence is not grammatically correct in the English languages, "..sixth in the world with the most international titles officially recognized...". The with part in bold is incorrect wording because it makes this sound like Juventus have the most international titles, period. I think the other wording which I put in makes it clearer, more correct and better. Thanks - Meddi (talk) 09:35, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] International Federation of Football History & Statistics
On the Juventus page this is pointless and not a balanced overview of the club's history. First of all its not official, second of all it does not give anymore valuable information than is already given. It is showed in the opening ...
All-time: Juventus has the 6th most international titles, making them over a weighted period of history, currently 6th all-time.
IFFHS: this only shows stats from 1991 to present, the stats are not complete so what is the point in using them, when it is already asserted earlier in the opening that Juventus are historically one of the most successful clubs in the entire world.
IFFHS is recentist as it does not cover the whole history and so not relevent in a historic balanced overview of the club, especially for an introduction about the club. I hope you can see this way. - Meddi (talk) 19:05, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Uefa Cup
Hi Dante. Look, I don´t say that Rsssf.com is above the Uefa´s source. I only say that in comparison to the Fadiga´s sources, the Rsssf one is completely superior to thouse not serious sources. It´s obvious that i´m agree with you that only the UEFA´s source must be the first one in this discussion, and we are agree in the fact of separate Uefa Cup with Fairs Cup.
Your regards, --Ultracanalla (talk) 00:40, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- This doesn't bode well for your case Ultracanela, soliciting other editors in Spanish because you can't behave on the English wikipedia properly. MickMacNee (talk) 00:13, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
